Carter: Money ruining elections

Sep 12, 2012 Full story: Politico 75

Former President Jimmy Carter issued a blistering indictment of the U.S. electoral process Tuesday, saying it is shot through with "financial corruption" that threatens American democracy.

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#21 Sep 12, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
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It's a good point but does Money Sway your Vote or does the ACTIONS and RECORD of the Candidates decided who is the best person for the Job?
No, money does not sway my vote, I think. However, if one candidate can overwhelm the voters by dumping a whole lot of moolah into ads, appearances, etc., then
many voters may be swayed, since they are uninformed or misinformed to begin with. And sometimes the actions and record
of the candidates can be influenced by the Congress in a
disruptive way and mainly for political reasons. That is why
my decision will be difficult.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#22 Sep 12, 2012
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
Carter was probably one of the most moral presidents of the 20th century. Like obama he inherited a sluggish economy from the Ford administration and runaway inflation. Ford's solution to inflation--he had millions of buttons printed that said WIN--"whip inflation now." Ford was a total dolt and Carter did the best he could. He was clearly superior to the fascist that followed him!
You're right - but the republicans here will disagree with you and I.

When Carter left office, we had deflation, a defecit of 996 billion dollars, and unemployment at 7.2%. When Reagan came to town, in 1982, after he cut the top tier tax brackets in half, we saw unemployment at 10.8% in 1982, and by the time he left office, raised taxes 11 times, expanded government (remember, he was running on the downsize of government mantra), and left this country with a 2.7 trillion dollar defecit!

How the republicans so desperately want to forget this!
Wasp

Ravenna, OH

#23 Sep 12, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
Voters should be disgusted by the money being thrown at these candidates.
Also troubling (and yes we should all care) CNBC’s Jim Cramer tweeted that his father — a World War II veteran — would lose the ability to vote under the state voter ID law because he “does not drive, he is elderly, and can’t prove his citizenship.”
Less than seven hours later, the “Mad Money” host tweeted that authorities with Pennsylvania’s transportation office “came directly to the rescue” of his father.
Other voters do not have a "celebrity" to fix these issues in order to vote.
It is a disgrage.
Oh Bo Hooo!!! Some people have no business voting anyway. If Jimmys father was as nuts as his son he should lose his right to vote.
Wasp

Ravenna, OH

#24 Sep 12, 2012
Money is ruining the price of peanuts too.

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#25 Sep 12, 2012
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
Carter was probably one of the most moral presidents of the 20th century. Like obama he inherited a sluggish economy from the Ford administration and runaway inflation. Ford's solution to inflation--he had millions of buttons printed that said WIN--"whip inflation now." Ford was a total dolt and Carter did the best he could. He was clearly superior to the fascist that followed him!
Yes, Mr. Carter was as moral as he was inept. He is the father
of modern terrorism, due to his treatment of the Shah and the hostage fiasco. I believe that fear of the 'fascist' was partially responsible for their release. FEAR is what influences those who would otherwise do harm, since they mistaken decency for weakness. Let us
not forget that the Shah kept the bad guys under wraps, just as
did Sadaam in Iraq. Today's terrorist groups in the middle east are an outgrowth from that era, one result being the 9/11 attack against our country. Mr Carter is a good man, but not a president.

Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#26 Sep 12, 2012
It was Nixon's Price and wage controls that sprang inflation on America that would haunt the two Presidents that followed Republican Richard Nixon.

As had always been the case, Republican policies and initiatives implemented by Nixon all but ruined America before Nixon resigned in complete disgrace. Carter held unemployment to 7%, but couldn't find a way around inflation and 18% Automobile Loans and Mortgages in America.

It was under Nixon we had gas rationing.
TonyT1961 wrote:
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You're right - but the republicans here will disagree with you and I.
When Carter left office, we had deflation, a defecit of 996 billion dollars, and unemployment at 7.2%. When Reagan came to town, in 1982, after he cut the top tier tax brackets in half, we saw unemployment at 10.8% in 1982, and by the time he left office, raised taxes 11 times, expanded government (remember, he was running on the downsize of government mantra), and left this country with a 2.7 trillion dollar defecit!
How the republicans so desperately want to forget this!

Since: Dec 07

Murchison, TX

#27 Sep 12, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Republicans champion an oligarchy. Their mission is a government they can drown in a bathtub. In Congress currently, Republicans are doing the bidding for the Plutocrats in trying to make good on their aim to eliminate the United States Government.
Right, that's why nobama does the crotch salute during the national anthem. Because he loves America. The democrats want to eliminate everything that made the USA great, turn it into Greece, Spain and Italy. Hope you like pasta, boy.

Since: Dec 07

Murchison, TX

#28 Sep 12, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
It was Nixon's Price and wage controls that sprang inflation on America that would haunt the two Presidents that followed Republican Richard Nixon.
As had always been the case, Republican policies and initiatives implemented by Nixon all but ruined America before Nixon resigned in complete disgrace. Carter held unemployment to 7%, but couldn't find a way around inflation and 18% Automobile Loans and Mortgages in America.
It was under Nixon we had gas rationing.
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It was under Johnson we had the Vietnam fkn war. Gas rationing was in 1979, Carter had been President for three years, dopey.
The gas crisis and inflation made 1979 seem like the worst of times for many Americans; but for President Carter, it was both the worst of times and the best of times. Roger Giddens reports

"shortly before announcing his administration’s energy measures,Carter cited a “secret” CIA report concocted by cronies of energy czar James R.Schlesinger, former director of the CIA. The report purported to prove that demandfor energy would outstrip production in the 1980s, creating enormous pressure forrapid changes"

Sound familiar???? Nobama's "green energy projects!" No to the pipeline, no to more drilling in US.

The fkn democrats caused it, jughead. Nixon---LMAO

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#29 Sep 12, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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It was under Johnson we had the Vietnam fkn war. Gas rationing was in 1979, Carter had been President for three years, dopey.
The gas crisis and inflation made 1979 seem like the worst of times for many Americans; but for President Carter, it was both the worst of times and the best of times. Roger Giddens reports
"shortly before announcing his administration’s energy measures,Carter cited a “secret” CIA report concocted by cronies of energy czar James R.Schlesinger, former director of the CIA. The report purported to prove that demandfor energy would outstrip production in the 1980s, creating enormous pressure forrapid changes"
Sound familiar???? Nobama's "green energy projects!" No to the pipeline, no to more drilling in US.
The fkn democrats caused it, jughead. Nixon---LMAO
You really like being proven stupid, don't you?

"The 1973 oil crisis started in October 1973, when the members of Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries or the OAPEC (consisting of the Arab members of OPEC, plus Egypt, Syria and Tunisia) proclaimed an oil embargo. This was in response to the U.S. decision to re-supply the Israeli military during the Yom Kippur war.[1] It lasted until March 1974.[2] With the U.S. actions seen as initiating the oil embargo and the long term possibility of high oil prices, disrupted supply, and recession, a strong rift was created within NATO. Additionally, some European nations and Japan sought to disassociate themselves from the U.S. Middle East policy. Arab oil producers had also linked the end of the embargo with successful U.S. efforts to create peace in the Middle East, which complicated the situation. To address these developments, the Nixon Administration began parallel negotiations with both Arab oil producers to end the embargo, and with Egypt, Syria, and Israel to arrange an Israeli pull back from the Sinai and the Golan Heights after the fighting stopped. By January 18, 1974, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had negotiated an Israeli troop withdrawal from parts of the Sinai. The promise of a negotiated settlement between Israel and Syria was sufficient to convince Arab oil producers to lift the embargo in March 1974. By May, Israel agreed to withdraw from some parts of the Golan Heights.[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

Douche bag!
PhumeaGator

France

#30 Sep 12, 2012
Otis B Driftwood wrote:
America: Carter almost ruined us. Obama has taken up the mantle.
Carter and BO should both be removed from the USA. Put them both in a HUT in Kenya.

Since: Dec 07

Murchison, TX

#31 Sep 12, 2012
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
You really like being proven stupid, don't you?
"The 1973 oil crisis started in October 1973, when the members of Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries or the OAPEC (consisting of the Arab members of OPEC, plus Egypt, Syria and Tunisia) proclaimed an oil embargo. This was in response to the U.S. decision to re-supply the Israeli military during the Yom Kippur war.[1] It lasted until March 1974.[2] With the U.S. actions seen as initiating the oil embargo and the long term possibility of high oil prices, disrupted supply, and recession, a strong rift was created within NATO. Additionally, some European nations and Japan sought to disassociate themselves from the U.S. Middle East policy. Arab oil producers had also linked the end of the embargo with successful U.S. efforts to create peace in the Middle East, which complicated the situation. To address these developments, the Nixon Administration began parallel negotiations with both Arab oil producers to end the embargo, and with Egypt, Syria, and Israel to arrange an Israeli pull back from the Sinai and the Golan Heights after the fighting stopped. By January 18, 1974, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had negotiated an Israeli troop withdrawal from parts of the Sinai. The promise of a negotiated settlement between Israel and Syria was sufficient to convince Arab oil producers to lift the embargo in March 1974. By May, Israel agreed to withdraw from some parts of the Golan Heights.[2]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
Douche bag!
Carter was a bit before my time paying attention to politics but i do know that the oil crisis in the 70's was caused by OPEC restricting the amount of oil they would sell to inflate the price. This caused of course higher prices but also rationing. If Carter was blamed i would think it would be for not finding a political compromise with OPEC.(again not really sure what carter was blamed for).
This crisis isnt caused by oil being withheld and Carter being the pu**y that he was.

Carter had a democratic Congress, so he had no excuse.

Bush had cheap gasoline prices, untill the democrats took control of congress last year.

Since the democrats took control of congress, gasoline prices have increased 75%.

The dems pander to the rich..........rich arabs. Drill and build the pipeline if your so concerned about Americans, dumbass.

Get back in your sewer, imbicile turd.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#34 Sep 12, 2012
I've often told you that you don't know much about American History of the history of America's politics.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
Background · Arab oil embargo · Price controls and ...· Conservation and ...
On August 15, 1971, the United States unilaterally pulled out of the Bretton Woods ... Politicians called for a national gas rationing program. Nixon requested gasoline
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
It was under Johnson we had the Vietnam fkn war. Gas rationing was in 1979, Carter had been President for three years, dopey.
The gas crisis and inflation made 1979 seem like the worst of times for many Americans; but for President Carter, it was both the worst of times and the best of times. Roger Giddens reports
"shortly before announcing his administration’s energy measures,Carter cited a “secret” CIA report concocted by cronies of energy czar James R.Schlesinger, former director of the CIA. The report purported to prove that demandfor energy would outstrip production in the 1980s, creating enormous pressure forrapid changes"
Sound familiar???? Nobama's "green energy projects!" No to the pipeline, no to more drilling in US.
The fkn democrats caused it, jughead. Nixon---LMAO
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#35 Sep 12, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, that's why nobama does the crotch salute during the national anthem. Because he loves America. The democrats want to eliminate everything that made the USA great, turn it into Greece, Spain and Italy. Hope you like pasta, boy.
Thanks, I would have never realized how stupid you actually are, if you had not replied with the above garbled gibberish. I can tell you worked at bring so misinformed.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#37 Sep 12, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
I've often told you that you don't know much about American History of the history of America's politics.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
Background · Arab oil embargo · Price controls and ...· Conservation and ...
On August 15, 1971, the United States unilaterally pulled out of the Bretton Woods ... Politicians called for a national gas rationing program. Nixon requested gasoline
<quoted text>
Eric - you just can't teach these people anything. With their heads stuck so far down in the sand, it's an exercisie in futility.

Most know little to nothing of what happened during the 70's - except what Faux News sound bites may have misinformed them of.
Wasp

Ravenna, OH

#39 Sep 12, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
It was Nixon's Price and wage controls that sprang inflation on America that would haunt the two Presidents that followed Republican Richard Nixon.
As had always been the case, Republican policies and initiatives implemented by Nixon all but ruined America before Nixon resigned in complete disgrace. Carter held unemployment to 7%, but couldn't find a way around inflation and 18% Automobile Loans and Mortgages in America.
It was under Nixon we had gas rationing.
<quoted text>
You should be more careful when calling someone ingnorant when at the same time spewing ingnorant facts like you are. Price contols have no effect on inflation. What cause's inflation is the money supply. What Nixon did was he took us off the gold standard and let the dollar float. By doing that the the treasury was able to print as much money as it wanted whereas before that the currency had to be backed by gold. This is why your dollars are all marked as federal reserve notes now. The first thing you need to do to educate yourself on the subject is you need to the find out what a dollar even is. Here's a hint for you,,,a U.S. quarter minted in 1963 could buy a 1 gal. of gasoline in 1963 that same quarter today will buy one gal. of gasoline. Say "HELLO LYDON JOHNSON" hahahahahaha!

Since: Feb 07

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#40 Sep 12, 2012
The wishy washy WH of President James Earl Carter has been replaced by the compliant and wishy washy WH of President Barack Obama.
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#42 Sep 12, 2012
Nixon 'Wrecked Early Peace In Vietnam'
Aug 9, 2000 ... Nixon's response to Johnson's efforts was to use a go-between, Anna Chennault,
to urge the South Vietnam's president, Nguyen van Thieu,...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/080900-... - 11k -

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Washington, DC

#43 Sep 12, 2012


Jimmy Carter is ruining the planet sucking up perfectly good oxygen.


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#44 Sep 12, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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It was under Johnson we had the Vietnam fkn war. Gas rationing was in 1979, Carter had been President for three years, dopey.
The gas crisis and inflation made 1979 seem like the worst of times for many Americans; but for President Carter, it was both the worst of times and the best of times. Roger Giddens reports
"shortly before announcing his administration’s energy measures,Carter cited a “secret” CIA report concocted by cronies of energy czar James R.Schlesinger, former director of the CIA. The report purported to prove that demandfor energy would outstrip production in the 1980s, creating enormous pressure forrapid changes"
Sound familiar???? Nobama's "green energy projects!" No to the pipeline, no to more drilling in US.
The fkn democrats caused it, jughead. Nixon---LMAO
No, we did not have gas rationing under Nixon. What we did have was price and wage controls and a bonus of a 5% excise tax
increase on certain imports which caused their business to
die on the vine. When all these government controls were
lifted, inflation shot up like a missile and off to the races it went. Nixon was warned by many economists that this would
be the result, but to no avail. Eventually, we arrived at
deflation which Reagan finally got under control. What a mess
it was.
As far as the huge deficit is concerned, Reagan rebuilt our
armed forces since Carter had dismantled them to the point where
parts had to be pilfered off of one plane to fix another, and no parts to repair bastardized aircraft. To say that the security of our country was put at risk is a fair statement.
Fifty percent of Reagan's defense spending was geared to
upgrading Norad, which was still using computers that were
invented in the 1950's! Was this a necessary expense? You betcha. OH, the missiles he stockpiled were neatly unloaded
by Bush in the first Gulf war, as he was honoring his treaty with the Russians to reduce the inventory.
I was around town then, and this is what I experienced.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Washington, DC

#45 Sep 12, 2012
bobob wrote:
<quoted text>
No, money does not sway my vote, I think. However, if one candidate can overwhelm the voters by dumping a whole lot of moolah into ads, appearances, etc., then
many voters may be swayed, since they are uninformed or misinformed to begin with. And sometimes the actions and record
of the candidates can be influenced by the Congress in a
disruptive way and mainly for political reasons. That is why
my decision will be difficult.



It's an interesting situation we find ourselves in... Upwards of $2 Billion being thrown around trying to influence voters in the country's biggest popularity contest.

If there was LESS money or a spending cap (unconstitutional), would this make for a "Better" election?

If Yes, it would be interesting to discuss HOW?

Does Too Much Money really effect the voters when many don't even pay attention or hear the ads?

I believe it's more about placement of the right ad than just flooding the airwaves with anything negative. What say you?

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