St. Raphael bulletin appears to violate IRS, Catholic rules

There are 20 comments on the Sep 7, 2012, El Paso Times story titled St. Raphael bulletin appears to violate IRS, Catholic rules. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

A local Catholic church appears to have violated IRS rules -- and Catholic doctrine -- by endorsing a presidential candidate in a church bulletin.

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Steve

Brownsville, TX

#1 Sep 7, 2012
hopefully, it was Romney!

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#2 Sep 7, 2012
seems kind of touchy. The way they worded it makes it kind of on the edge. They didn't actually endorse any candidate. What they did was say to replace the current president. So they didn't say to vote for anyone.
Reminds me of Billy Bubba with the whole, "It depends on what the meaning of is, is".

I agree with the sentiment of what they said but think it is not what they should be doing. Church should stick to religon and stay out of politics.
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#3 Sep 7, 2012
The Catholic Church is going to have to really bend down on their knees and beg the IRS for lenient action. The priest at St. Raphael's is elderly (82)and was probably convinced by the writer of the newsletter to allow the proclamation not knowing it was illegal. Maybe the IRS should take away their status for one year as penalty for their stupidity. This is why there is a separation of Church and state so the church does not have an influence on the state.

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#4 Sep 7, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
The Catholic Church is going to have to really bend down on their knees and beg the IRS for lenient action. The priest at St. Raphael's is elderly (82)and was probably convinced by the writer of the newsletter to allow the proclamation not knowing it was illegal. Maybe the IRS should take away their status for one year as penalty for their stupidity. This is why there is a separation of Church and state so the church does not have an influence on the state.
Can't really say if it is illegal or not as they did not actually endorse anyone. Then again if the bulletin was put out by a lay person that could enter into it as well.

I don't agree with what they did but not sure if it will measure up to actual illegal status. I mean after what we saw in 2008 from the democrats this is very minor.
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#5 Sep 7, 2012
If the case is against the church then the IRS should also go after Rev. Tom Brown for using his churches website in the recall which I do believe is still pending.

I believe the Churches have the right to protest their inclusion into the health care mandate for offering women their birth control but I also believe the government should not allow men the right to get their VIAGRA free in any prescription plan. They need to pay for it as women had to pay for their birth control.

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#6 Sep 8, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
If the case is against the church then the IRS should also go after Rev. Tom Brown for using his churches website in the recall which I do believe is still pending.
I believe the Churches have the right to protest their inclusion into the health care mandate for offering women their birth control but I also believe the government should not allow men the right to get their VIAGRA free in any prescription plan. They need to pay for it as women had to pay for their birth control.
Not sure about Brown just know that we should have recalled the whole group of crooks in city hall long time ago.

As to the other thing with birth control and viagra I think that should be up to the individual insurance plan.
I think the Government needs to stay the hell out of it.
Stevo

El Paso, TX

#7 Sep 8, 2012
That church reminds me of a Republican Cult.
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#8 Sep 8, 2012
I am not totally against the health insurance coverage for women's health issues but covering them by mandate is wrong. Men and women should pay for their contraceptive medication unless it can be demonstrated the hormone replacement is necessary to the good health of the woman. Then any plan should have them pay the deductible.
Brenda

El Paso, TX

#9 Sep 8, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
I am not totally against the health insurance coverage for women's health issues but covering them by mandate is wrong. Men and women should pay for their contraceptive medication unless it can be demonstrated the hormone replacement is necessary to the good health of the woman. Then any plan should have them pay the deductible.
Maybe now you can finally get that penis extension surgery that you've alway wanted. And maybe you'll even lose the name shortstick.
George Washington Sanchez

El Paso, TX

#10 Sep 8, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
I am not totally against the health insurance coverage for women's health issues but covering them by mandate is wrong. Men and women should pay for their contraceptive medication unless it can be demonstrated the hormone replacement is necessary to the good health of the woman. Then any plan should have them pay the deductible.
So you're not only racist but sexist too? Women deserve access to unfettered abortion, birth control pills and all the other things they need, unless you are some sort of cave man. Romney/Ryan want to take them all away for good.
JesusChristCentr alDave

El Paso, TX

#11 Sep 8, 2012
UR BS wrote:
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Not sure about Brown just know that we should have recalled the whole group of crooks in city hall long time ago.
As to the other thing with birth control and viagra I think that should be up to the individual insurance plan.
I think the Government needs to stay the hell out of it.
They endorsed the hell out of this race because they said Obama has to go, just like Newsweek did. I hope they cut him a break because he is old and a damn good Catholic.
Hatch act viplations

United States

#12 Sep 8, 2012
The obamma thugs are pressuring federal employees to vote the dumo way...

The charges are filed,

Criminal charges....

You'd think the "lawyer" would comply with law!
JesusChristCentr alDave

El Paso, TX

#13 Sep 8, 2012
Hatch act viplations wrote:
The obamma thugs are pressuring federal employees to vote the dumo way...
The charges are filed,
Criminal charges....
You'd think the "lawyer" would comply with law!
I see you're quoting the Hatch Act but don't forget about the Mann Act either - that could come into play.
Speedy Gonzales

El Paso, TX

#14 Sep 8, 2012
JesusChristCentr alDave wrote:
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I see you're quoting the Hatch Act but don't forget about the Mann Act either - that could come into play.


What about the snatchACT??

For those who don't know-

The snatchACT is meant to keep people like jesus from spreading their STDs by making it a felonias assult when they intentionally pass their STD to an unknowing victim.

Now stfu and keep your legs closed.
Low gear

United States

#15 Sep 8, 2012
Speedy Gonzales wrote:
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What about the snatchACT??
For those who don't know-
The snatchACT is meant to keep people like jesus from spreading their STDs by making it a felonias assult when they intentionally pass their STD to an unknowing victim.
Now stfu and keep your legs closed.
You're not quick ENUFF

Your manners display your genetic malfunction.
In full agreement

United States

#16 Sep 8, 2012
George Washington Sanchez wrote:
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So you're not only racist but sexist too? Women deserve access to unfettered abortion, birth control pills and all the other things they need, unless you are some sort of cave man. Romney/Ryan want to take them all away for good.
If ya speaking about Mexican women, they, knowing you,

You are absolutely right!
Speedy Gonzales

El Paso, TX

#17 Sep 8, 2012
Low gear wrote:
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You're not quick ENUFF
Your manners display your genetic malfunction.


Your husband is the quick one, Mr. 5 minutes on a good night but hey can you really blame the guy when he has your fugly asss to work with?

OTFLMAO!!!
Thugs gaLore

United States

#18 Sep 8, 2012
UR BS wrote:
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Can't really say if it is illegal or not as they did not actually endorse anyone. Then again if the bulletin was put out by a lay person that could enter into it as well.
I don't agree with what they did but not sure if it will measure up to actual illegal status. I mean after what we saw in 2008 from the democrats this is very minor.
By hook or crook, the obamma henchmen will bully, buy and steal and WE KNOW HIM NOW!

the Macciavelian Manchurian Muslim can't hide from his RECORD!

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#19 Sep 8, 2012
JesusChristCentr alDave wrote:
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They endorsed the hell out of this race because they said Obama has to go, just like Newsweek did. I hope they cut him a break because he is old and a damn good Catholic.
No you see because they nly said that obama must go does not constitute endorsement of Romney.
So it is still a close call. They never named a candidate to vote for only that they shouldn't vote for obama. By the way the bulletin was written they could vote for Paul, Romney, Alfred E Neuman, Santa Clause, or anyone else. We all understand what they meant but by the law it may not be an endorsement.
I am no lawyer so I can't say for sure but it is a close call either way.
bIRD

El Paso, TX

#20 Sep 8, 2012
i sTRONLY dISLIKE THE pOSTER fROM tHAT cRAP tOWN, aNTHONY, nEW wHACKO.

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