EBay bans Tarot readings, spells, psychic readings, and witchcraft-related sales

Aug 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Examiner.com

Albany residents who might have purchased certain witchcraft related items on eBay may be disappointed next month when they can no longer find the items they are seeking since eBay is doing away with a number of witchcraft-related categories this fall.

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Jeff

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Aug 18, 2012
 
Will they still allow the jewish and christian religions stuff on e-bay?
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Aug 19, 2012
 
Jeff wrote:
Will they still allow the jewish and christian religions stuff on e-bay?
Yes they will. It's CLEARY discrimintions agains non big three religions. They wouldn't DARE banned the bible, roserys etc from being banned, while forcing banned on tarot readings spells and psychic readins that other people even those who are NOT religions belive in. Divinsion and spells ARE part of MANY RELIGIONS and it inslutings to NOT allow them to sell THEIR servise yet allow Christains to sell prayes.

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Aug 20, 2012
 
That is a good question as to if this will be treated fairly across the board and something to look out for on Ebay. I hope that they are fair about the way they apply this.

I'm wondering if there have been many Pagans complain about the unethical nature of these 'services' sold by various Wiccans, Witches, and similar practioners.

Take the infamous moonstruck9000 (in particular) who sells spells to increase the size of your butt, penis, or breast and also "break them up" spells, and spells to return the lover who finally got away from your sorry azz, and then the 'make them your sex slave' spell- just to highlight one of the more absurd and unethical supposed spellcasters on there. I imagine that many people who take Wicca and their dedication to it seriously and personally are offended by such things. This is a personal path and it is shared with others on a personal basis. We don't do spells for strangers online, but we might work with a fellow Pagan to help them create a spell for themselves. We work with our friends and others we care for when they are in need, and we work to empower & heal them, not to grant their immediate desires. Spells and rituals are about working with energies and deities and accessing our own inner Divine natures- not with the shiniest, most expensive bauble, nor the highest priced witch who proclaims herself most powerful. And so it goes with many other Pagans who would be similarly put-off by such blantant commercialism around their chosen paths.

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I think the ban is a good thing and over due. Those auctions are bollox and feed the stereotypes about pagans and witches. Nor is it discriminating against any specific religion, it's discriminating against the frauds that peddle their snake oil to the gullible, desperate and lonely.

People should note that eBay is NOT banning the same of magickal items, it IS banning the *intangible* so called services of which it's, literally, the buyer's vs. the seller's word as to whether what was promised was delivered. The items specifically being eliminated from sale eligibility include,“Advice; spells; curses; hexing; conjuring; magic services; prayers; blessings; Psychic, Tarot, Reiki, and other metaphysical readings & services; magic potions; healing sessions; work from home businesses & information; wholesale lists and drop ship lists.”

The writer of the article is incorrect in pondering whether that includes the sale of books on the topics of spells, tarot, Reiki etc. It's the book itself that is being sold, i.e. a tangible item that either is in the condition described or it's not and is received by the buyer or it's not. Whereas there is no guarantee and nothing to ensure that the person claiming to offer a reading or a spell etc. knows his arse from his elbow or to prove that said service was given. On the flip side, IF the seller is legit and does deliver the service promised, there's no proof of it to counter a buyer's claim that it didn't work and wants to be refunded.

Also no where does eBay say that one religion may sell prayers and blessings but another cannot. So no, there is no religious bias. It may seem so because so many of those bogus auctions come from people claiming to be pagan or witch. It's all prayers, all blessings, etc. All eBay is doing is covering itself from any potential legal issues and helping the foolish from being parted from their money so readily.

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Aug 20, 2012
 
** That should read, "People should note that eBay is NOT banning the SALE of magickal items,"

[It's so annoying we can't correct our posts.]

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Aug 21, 2012
 
When it comes down to it, I think that e-bay is pretty much like all major corporations, driven by profit. I don't think there is any intention to deliberately put all their Pagan sellers out of business or otherwise chase them away from using their services.

When maximizing profit, a company must also consider it's Goodwill. This is literally an asset that can go on the books in some circumstances, and also impacts a buyer's willingness to use their website to find and purchase items, none the less. They also profit from sellers who use thier website to sell their goods.

In the case of intangible services, I can definetely see their point. Especially as some of these have taken a hard dive into blatently unethical offers to break them up, make them your sex slave, and return your former lover to your prison, er, bed. If someone were offering their services to do these things tangibly, i.e. by force, well, we'd call that person a thug and a criminal.

But it's also because it's pretty impossible to mediate buyer/seller complaints and relations to any intangible offer like that. I mean, IRL if you need counseling and you go to a counselor, and even if they sucked or couldn't help you, you can't argue that they didn't sit down and interact with you for an hour in their office at the least.

I think since there is a window of time, I know if I were a seller I would not immediately bail before things were settled. I would work with the company and let them know my concerns, let them know that while it makes sense to cut off the rotten branch, that they would be wise not to uproot the whole tree. Then see how it plays out in the first month or so before issuing a call to arms (or abandonment) against them.

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