Long Beach thinks big

Long Beach thinks big

There are 2 comments on the Architect Online story from Dec 23, 2011, titled Long Beach thinks big. In it, Architect Online reports that:

Long Beach, Calif., is considering a $320 million Seaside Village development that would include a 100-room hotel, a science center, shops, and a 12-story, 275-unit condominium tower.

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arky

United States

#1 Dec 24, 2011
Won't/can't work for the same reason Disney didn't do anything there: you can't build a high-end social center that's surrounded by Section 8 housing, as well as a train that can cheaply transport poor people there from south central and compton. This winds up mixing rich people with obstinately poor people, and rich people don't like that.
Disneyland might have a bit of lower end folks living around the park, the the park admission effectively segregates them from having any significant effect. "The Grove" is open to anyone, but not local to ghetto trains, and surrounded by upwardly mobile middle-class and better folks. An open area anyone can afford to go to means the poor with disincline the rich to partake, and the area slowly decays.
Just like Pine Avenue and "the pike."
Until LB leaders develop the will to place restraints on what can be built along the perimeter of that area, nothing can happen there that won't turn into a fiscal fiasco.
If you build it, white people *won't* come.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#2 Dec 24, 2011
arky wrote:
Won't/can't work for the same reason Disney didn't do anything there: you can't build a high-end social center that's surrounded by Section 8 housing, as well as a train that can cheaply transport poor people there from south central and compton. This winds up mixing rich people with obstinately poor people, and rich people don't like that.
Disneyland might have a bit of lower end folks living around the park, the the park admission effectively segregates them from having any significant effect. "The Grove" is open to anyone, but not local to ghetto trains, and surrounded by upwardly mobile middle-class and better folks. An open area anyone can afford to go to means the poor with disincline the rich to partake, and the area slowly decays.
Just like Pine Avenue and "the pike."
Until LB leaders develop the will to place restraints on what can be built along the perimeter of that area, nothing can happen there that won't turn into a fiscal fiasco.
If you build it, white people *won't* come.
arky.

You could be right. No matter what loony ideas are cooked up in expensive taxpayer funded Government universities, the Long Beach revolutionary ruling class will use overtaxed and underrepresented Long Beachers as Guinea pigs to try them out.

Years ago, the Long Beach family dining and entertainment sectors thrived because decent non smokers of good will would rub shoulders with decent tobacco smokers in the city's many thriving "family orientated" restaurants and cocktail lounges. Everyone got along fine.

Then, as a means to increase Government tobacco taxes and in order to increase Government control into areas that have nothing to do with tobacco, the revolutionists began their harassment of hard working diners and entertainment industry customers, including the manufacture of hostility between decent tobacco smokers of good-will and the decent hard working tobacco smokers. Thus, the the so-called "war" against decent tobacco smokers began right here in revolutionary controlled Long Beach. Warned that the resultant decline in business would cause hard working White waitresses - many of whom were worker *("middle")* class single moms - and barkeeps being booted out onto the street, the revolutionists said "Great! The increase of poverty among the White folks will hasten the attainment of revolutionary objectives!"

The result - as predicted - was that nearly all of the many then existing "family" restaurants closed. Politically favored and "protected" $Big Restaurant$ chains increased their prices, reduced portion sizes, and instead of offering "specials" complete with complementary soup and salad appetizers, offered the "choice" of only one - often at additional cost. Hard working waitresses were reduced to standing for entire 8 or 10 hour shifts in motor vehicle exhaust fume polluted "drive through" windows or to pouring overpriced coffee in the city's many overcharging coffee shops that proliferated to take the place of the closed low priced family restaurants.

The latest "anti consumer" scheme implemented by revolutionary Council is *(don't laugh)* criminalizing Council controlled grocers and goods sellers who provide customer service by refusing to charge the city's infamous Lowenthal grocery and goods bag taxes - something revolutionary Long Beach Council wants to inflict on the entire State.

There comes a point from where there is no return. One can clearly see the nation's Orwellian future by observing Long Beach. The city is controlled by a coalition of African and South Asian "Blacks" along with our Homosexual friends. Long Beach should be a lesson for those who still reside in free-America to pay heed. Free America must stop the spread of revolutionary Long Beacherism. Otherwise, for the outside world, the future is too horrible to contemplate.

Ronald

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