hal

Sydney, Australia

#906 Jul 15, 2013
Julia wrote:
<quoted text>
What gender of child pornography would you like to find on your significant other's computer?
That would make an interesting survey question...ehm, not! Who would worry about their boyfriend's orientation after they've found out he's a pedo?!
So, you're saying rev's son is a pedo, with child porn on his iPad, or did you mean rev's husband?
Rev's a guy.
He's talking about his son.
Like I said, lay off the Grappa!
You are in Roma, aren't you?
Or are you too drunk to know?
Julia

Rome, Italy

#907 Jul 16, 2013
hal wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you're saying rev's son is a pedo, with child porn on his iPad, or did you mean rev's husband?
Rev's a guy.
He's talking about his son.
Like I said, lay off the Grappa!
You are in Roma, aren't you?
Or are you too drunk to know?
I'm not anything, the idea of asking that rhetorical question came from that post, but I wasn't talking about him.
Should I see your trying to identify my address as a threat?
hal

Sydney, Australia

#908 Jul 16, 2013
Julia wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not anything, the idea of asking that rhetorical question came from that post, but I wasn't talking about him.
Should I see your trying to identify my address as a threat?
Absolutely not.
What on earth would make you think that?
I don't threaten people!
Do you have stalking issues?
Julia

Rome, Italy

#909 Jul 16, 2013
hal wrote:
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Absolutely not.
What on earth would make you think that?
I don't threaten people!
Do you have stalking issues?
Nah, I have "prejudices" that make me assume that pedophiles are prone to other violent crimes.
hal

Sydney, Australia

#910 Jul 16, 2013
Julia wrote:
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Nah, I have "prejudices" that make me assume that pedophiles are prone to other violent crimes.
I doubt they are.
The experts say they're a particularly non violent lot.
And law abiding.
They all stay under the safety limit driving past schools!
Julia

Rome, Italy

#911 Jul 16, 2013
hal wrote:
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I doubt they are.
The experts say they're a particularly non violent lot.
And law abiding.
They all stay under the safety limit driving past schools!
I was talking about practicing pedophiles, therefore non-law abiding and violent by definition.
Plus, when you mention experts and data, you should disclose your sources.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#912 Jul 18, 2013
-Babybelle- wrote:
While walking along a beach, an elderly gentleman saw someone in the distance leaning down, picking something up and throwing it into the ocean. As he got closer, he noticed that the figure was that of a young man, picking up starfish one by one and tossing each one gently back into the water. He came closer still and called out,“Good morning! May I ask what it is that you are doing?”The young man paused, looked up, and replied “Throwing starfish into the ocean.”The old man smiled, and said,“I must ask, then, why are you throwing starfish into the ocean?”To this, the young man replied,“The sun is up and the tide is going out. If I don’t throw them in, they’ll die.”Upon hearing this, the elderly observer commented,“But, young man, do you not realise that there are miles and miles of beach and there are starfish all along every mile? You can’t possibly make a difference!”The young man listened politely. Then he bent down, picked up another starfish, threw it into the back into the ocean past the breaking waves and said, “It made a difference for that one.”
Reading this thread for the first time, I came across this...
Just thought it deserved a repost
:)
hal

Sydney, Australia

#913 Jul 18, 2013
Stretchermunkey wrote:
<quoted text>
Reading this thread for the first time, I came across this...
Just thought it deserved a repost
:)
Problem is, it's an entirely false analogy.
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Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#914 Jul 18, 2013
hal wrote:
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Problem is, it's an entirely false analogy.
Surely a false analogy is only really a problem when used in an argument?
Anyway the original post certainly made one person smile so it was worth it :)
Thanks baby belle

“Gone back to Dagobah ”

Since: Mar 13

Australia

#915 Jul 18, 2013
hal wrote:
<quoted text>
Problem is, it's an entirely false analogy.
No it isn't
You were rattling off huge numbers in relation to sexual activity between adults and minors. It looked (to me at least) as though you were saying "you won't stop it completely, why bother trying? ". This story highlights that even if you make a difference to one life, at least you made a difference.
NECROID X

Hazleton, PA

#916 Jul 18, 2013
I won't do a child's corpse when paying to go to the morgue. Even I have morals.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#919 Jul 19, 2013
hal wrote:
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Yes it is.
You alter the balance of nature, there are consequences.
You save one here, you destroy another one there.
Or maybe even an entire species!
It's just a cutesy attempt to avoid having to come to terms with life's harsher realities!
And imagine you're establishing some brilliant new principle of survival.
Few ever are!
Tricky subject, you talk about altering the balance if nature and the subsequent consequences and essentially you are correct, read Alston Chase's, playing god in Yellowstone. It explains how park management tried to manage the park without full understanding. Every good meaning decision they made caused further problems.
But ....I'm a paramedic, and very aware of the harsh realities of life. So do you suggest I'm just wasting my time? I don't change the world but I make a huge difference to the lives of a few
on a regular basis. Should I not bother, should I just sit behind a computer all day being clever on the Internet ?
I'm toying with emigrating to Oz, so you never know, one day you'll call for an ambulance and I'll turn up, and at that point you'll be quite please that some people do try to make small difference.
hal

Sydney, Australia

#920 Jul 19, 2013
Stretchermunkey wrote:
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Tricky subject, you talk about altering the balance if nature and the subsequent consequences and essentially you are correct, read Alston Chase's, playing god in Yellowstone. It explains how park management tried to manage the park without full understanding. Every good meaning decision they made caused further problems.
But ....I'm a paramedic, and very aware of the harsh realities of life. So do you suggest I'm just wasting my time? I don't change the world but I make a huge difference to the lives of a few
on a regular basis. Should I not bother, should I just sit behind a computer all day being clever on the Internet ?
I'm toying with emigrating to Oz, so you never know, one day you'll call for an ambulance and I'll turn up, and at that point you'll be quite please that some people do try to make small difference.
What you do falls within the framework of a species nature created and evolved, getting on with the business of best preserving the welfare and perpetuation of that species, in terms of the capability granted to it by nature.
In other words, we are functioning within our designated framework of capability.
You could argue that nature provided each species with as much survival capability as it wanted each to have.
We have ours.
They have theirs.
Each adapted to the survival capability nature gave each.
I know you can draw out further strings of inquiry here, but that's the essence of it, without writing the manual to cover every possibility.
hal

Sydney, Australia

#921 Jul 19, 2013
It's a great country, with a truly glittering future.
Plenty of space and freedom.
I'd recommend you come.
I think you'd probably do very well here.
But it is quite warm 8-9 months of the year.
If you're accustomed to a good winter (as I was coming from New Zealand), the constant heat, often even at night, can get tedious.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#922 Jul 19, 2013
hal wrote:
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What you do falls within the framework of a species nature created and evolved, getting on with the business of best preserving the welfare and perpetuation of that species, in terms of the capability granted to it by nature.
In other words, we are functioning within our designated framework of capability.
You could argue that nature provided each species with as much survival capability as it wanted each to have.
We have ours.
They have theirs.
Each adapted to the survival capability nature gave each.
I know you can draw out further strings of inquiry here, but that's the essence of it, without writing the manual to cover every possibility.
What I actually am is an expendable resource provided by our government because, they and the people controlling the government need a means of being seen to look after the Plebs, they don't care, but in a supposedly civilised society they need to provide a framework for care so we all don't rioting in the streets. Knowing all this I still go to work everyday and try to make a small difference. Isn't it just human nature to try?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#923 Jul 19, 2013
hal wrote:
It's a great country, with a truly glittering future.
Plenty of space and freedom.
I'd recommend you come.
I think you'd probably do very well here.
But it is quite warm 8-9 months of the year.
If you're accustomed to a good winter (as I was coming from New Zealand), the constant heat, often even at night, can get tedious.
Having spent way too much time in the UK, I can't even comprehend what too much heat feels like :)
hal

Sydney, Australia

#924 Jul 19, 2013
Stretchermunkey wrote:
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What I actually am is an expendable resource provided by our government because, they and the people controlling the government need a means of being seen to look after the Plebs, they don't care, but in a supposedly civilised society they need to provide a framework for care so we all don't rioting in the streets. Knowing all this I still go to work everyday and try to make a small difference. Isn't it just human nature to try?
Yes, absolutely.
It's the most important thing of all.
Without you, and people like you, the world would be a lesser place.
But never underestimate the power of one, the effect of a single individual.
Look at Malala Yousefzai, Martin Luther King jr, Rosa Parks, and also Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi.
Have you ever thought of giving politics a try?
Our leaders aren't nearly as important as they think.
There's way more grandeur and respect in jobs and lives like yours and other ordinary people, imo.
Go for whatever you want!

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#925 Jul 19, 2013
hal wrote:
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What you do falls within the framework of a species nature created and evolved, getting on with the business of best preserving the welfare and perpetuation of that species, in terms of the capability granted to it by nature.
In other words, we are functioning within our designated framework of capability.
So is picking up starfish and protecting vulnerable children. It all falls within the framework of human nature.
where do we go from here

Edmonton, Canada

#926 Jul 19, 2013
Does anyone else wonder where humanity will be sexually speaking, that is, in a hundred years. Today, homosexuality is generally accepted, they have rights etc. Yet a hundred years ago it was a huge taboo. Today, s*x with a 13 year old is "sick and twisted" behaviour yet a hundred years ago 13 year olds were getting married and procreating . Maybe in another 100 years they will be reversed again.... Or the puppy lovers will reign supreme.
hal

Sydney, Australia

#927 Jul 19, 2013
-Babybelle- wrote:
<quoted text>So is picking up starfish and protecting vulnerable children. It all falls within the framework of human nature.
Certainly nurturing children is.
The starfish can be argued, but can also be argued as an interference in the process of nature.
Rather as we almost wiped out the whales, and have done with other species.

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