Female circumcision

Created by Fatima on Sep 14, 2008

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“Mystery Repeats”

Since: May 08

Dordrecht

#21 Sep 15, 2008
BrightEyedBeauty wrote:
I don't see why any woman would be willing to muti!ate herself. By having her C!itoris removed in whole, or in part.
I fail to see, how This displays any form of love. No man would be worth it.
Many woman do not even know what this is.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/medical_not...
because many moms will mutilate their baby boys in the usa, female circumcision is no worse then the male varsion, anyone who denies this is foolish and ignorant

their are no PROVEN medical benefits, the foreskin serves a function too, it is sexist to say there is a difference between the male and female version.

im am grieved to see how foolish some ppl here are, while in the "are u circumcised?" tread ppl are defending the male circumcision the female version is condemned. what ciecumcision is it bulldoodoo!!!

both male and female

“Mystery Repeats”

Since: May 08

Dordrecht

#22 Sep 15, 2008
BrightEyedBeauty wrote:
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Here's a website thats tells of all the Life Long painful and unhealthy side affects of this:
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/female-ge...
actually if u would do research some more u will find it can give the same "benefits" as male circ
Hannah

Thrapston, UK

#24 Sep 15, 2008
Isn't it blood-rich, due to a vein or artery around that area- therefore dangerous, could lead to a lot of blood loss.
and a lot of nerves, which for one would be extremely painful and
Aren't men circumcised to increase clenliness anyway...obv there is the reason so sex is not enjoyed.
...whats the point in doing it to women!
Surely God, Allah, whoever you beleive in didn't give you these NATURAL body parts just to be cut off, its probably more disrespectful to cut off what the god gave you.

(Personally I am not even remotely religious, it causes war n sh!t and a waste of time- personal opinion!!!!)

Its like saying you need a boob-job for religious reasons.

“Mystery Repeats”

Since: May 08

Dordrecht

#25 Sep 15, 2008
Hannah wrote:
Isn't it blood-rich, due to a vein or artery around that area- therefore dangerous, could lead to a lot of blood loss.
and a lot of nerves, which for one would be extremely painful and
Aren't men circumcised to increase clenliness anyway...obv there is the reason so sex is not enjoyed.
...whats the point in doing it to women!
Surely God, Allah, whoever you beleive in didn't give you these NATURAL body parts just to be cut off, its probably more disrespectful to cut off what the god gave you.
(Personally I am not even remotely religious, it causes war n sh!t and a waste of time- personal opinion!!!!)
Its like saying you need a boob-job for religious reasons.
lol, religious boobjobs

well the cleanlyness is nonsense, they claim all sorts of "medical & hygienical benefits" while all these are nonsense. now the real thing wich is true is that it is easier to clean for BOTH sexes, but when ur in the shower al u have to do is spray water on it, so no real difference, i mean opening the lips is easy as well as pulling back the foreskin, id be insulted if someone said that circ would improve my hygiene, id say: "what u think im to stupid to pull back my foreskin?"

no yes it is a blood rich area with veins and arteries, but so it the penis, what do u think is in the thing to make it hard? indeed lots of blood. also full of arteries and veins, actually the risk of female circumcision is no greater then that of male circumcision

for both sexes it decreases sexual pleasure

“safe, sane, consensual...”

Since: Jul 08

perpetual arousal

#26 Sep 15, 2008
I did a report on this for speech class in high school. Unfortunately, I also included several graphic pictures, and made another student puke and got several complaints. Ended up being suspended for two weeks.

That said, this is a disgusting, disturbing practice that no woman should have to endure. Unlike male circumcision, this causes lifelong pain and health problems to the women, especially in extreme cases where they stitch the woman's vagina closed, and rip the stitches out on her wedding night.

And birth is painful enough without added mutilation, don't you think?
Franko

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#27 Sep 15, 2008
PrinceJamal wrote:
<quoted text>
It actually gives more pleasure to men
This is how circumsised p-ssy looks like
http://tbn0.google.com/images...
that looks awful!

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#28 Sep 15, 2008
PrinceJamal wrote:
<quoted text>
It actually gives more pleasure to men
This is how circumsised p-ssy looks like
http://tbn0.google.com/images...
No way,that looks freaky.

“Mystery Repeats”

Since: May 08

Dordrecht

#29 Sep 15, 2008
patricialynn wrote:
I did a report on this for speech class in high school. Unfortunately, I also included several graphic pictures, and made another student puke and got several complaints. Ended up being suspended for two weeks.
That said, this is a disgusting, disturbing practice that no woman should have to endure. Unlike male circumcision, this causes lifelong pain and health problems to the women, especially in extreme cases where they stitch the woman's vagina closed, and rip the stitches out on her wedding night.
And birth is painful enough without added mutilation, don't you think?
u didnt do good research, there are many different versions of female circ types as wel is many male circ types, the one you are refering to is the worst kind, the female circ that would be practiced by doctors in hospitals would cause no more damage then male circ. the anti fgm movement uses scare-tactics, propaganda and exaggerated damage facts. there are also forms of male circ that cause lifelong damage, you might want to google the yemen circ

also vagioplasty wich is so frequently done in the usa falls juristicly under circumcision also, the name change is to make it legal in the usa.
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“Walking Attitude”

Since: Aug 07

The Q continuum

#30 Sep 15, 2008
Personally, I think both female and male genital mutilation to be a barbarrac practice steeped in ancient religious cultism that uses "modern medical" excuses for its existence in societies and cultures around the world.

Since: Jan 08

New Liskeard, Canada

#31 Sep 15, 2008
Hmmm... I wonder if the passionate/irate responses earlier on in this thread would be posted if the gender was switched... I'm guessing not.

“Walking Attitude”

Since: Aug 07

The Q continuum

#32 Sep 15, 2008
Something a little interesting here: In countries where male genital mutilation is not a common practice, rape is much less common. Having been uncut, and then (at 34 years old) having a circumcision, i can say from experience, that a dry intercourse would be excruciating for an uncut penis. Now, being cut, a dry intercourse is actually preferable for stimulation.

So for the religious cultists out there: "As ye sow, so shall ye reap" I suppose.
Carol

Ashburn, VA

#33 Sep 15, 2008
PrinceJamal wrote:
<quoted text>
It actually gives more pleasure to men
This is how circumsised p-ssy looks like
http://tbn0.google.com/images...
How in the hell,could this give a man more pleasure? Is it the thrill,of knowing the pain,that the woman has suffered,or merely the fact that it has given,you the control,off being her only lover?
Even most rapists,which are the most hideous,of criminals would not even consider mutilating,a woman in a way such as this...

“Captain Karl's Cod Boat”

Since: Aug 08

receiver of lies...

#34 Sep 15, 2008
from holland wrote:
<quoted text>
because many moms will mutilate their baby boys in the usa, female circumcision is no worse then the male varsion, anyone who denies this is foolish and ignorant
their are no PROVEN medical benefits, the foreskin serves a function too, it is sexist to say there is a difference between the male and female version.im am grieved to see how foolish some ppl here are, while in the "are u circumcised?" tread ppl are defending the male circumcision the female version is condemned. what ciecumcision is it bulldoodoo!!!both male and female
You have NO idea what your talking about, as usual Holland.! And, I Have done the Research.. Maybe you should..

Holland - If you had a choice you would be more then willingly to hand over your foreskin- Instead of having your whole pen!s
cut off or- Having this done to you as a female.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/image/176765 ...

http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/female-ge ...

Proof - Female Circumcision-Female Mutilation - Is Very-Different then just the cutting off of a males Foreskin.!

For you or for anyone to say that they are the "Same" - is just as Sadistic and Insane - as the procedure itself.!

Female circumcision is - Equal to cutting Off all outer Male Sex Organs - ie: Eunuch.!

How is being made a "Eunuch" - equal to having a "foreskin" cut off .. Holland.???
They are Not the Same, are they.!

Female Circumcision is turning a Female - into a "Female-Eunuch"
[ Intentionally - So she "Can 'Not' have Pleasure", period -- instead of a Chastity Belt.!]

There are Severe Life Long Complications, Loss of Pleasure -by- having the "C!itoris Removed" - that is what a simple female circumcision is - Even when done in a Hospital.

The "Loss of Sexual Pleasure, Complications, Pain and Infections" are -"Life Long".
And they can lead to Death, that is Why it is Illegal.!

When a full circumcision is done:
The urinary tract is rerouted to go out threw a small hole left at the vaginal opening.
Menstrual fluid backing up-due to that opening being as small as a corn cornel-[the small the opening the better] making this even more dangerous.
And, the woman has to be cut open - when ever her husband wants to have vaginal sex.[and for child birth - and sewn back up ]

Due to this and blood loss and infection, Many female babies, young girls, and woman have Died from these complications, even when done in a hospital.- That is why it is Illegal.!
Carol

Ashburn, VA

#35 Sep 15, 2008
BrightEyedBeauty wrote:
<quoted text>
You have NO idea what your talking about, as usual Holland.! And, I Have done the Research.. Maybe you should..
Holland - If you had a choice you would be more then willingly to hand over your foreskin- Instead of having your whole pen!s
cut off or- Having this done to you as a female.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/image/176765 ...
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/female-ge ...
Proof - Female Circumcision-Female Mutilation - Is Very-Different then just the cutting off of a males Foreskin.!
For you or for anyone to say that they are the "Same" - is just as Sadistic and Insane - as the procedure itself.!
Female circumcision is - Equal to cutting Off all outer Male Sex Organs - ie: Eunuch.!
How is being made a "Eunuch" - equal to having a "foreskin" cut off .. Holland.???
They are Not the Same, are they.!
Female Circumcision is turning a Female - into a "Female-Eunuch"
[ Intentionally - So she "Can 'Not' have Pleasure", period -- instead of a Chastity Belt.!]
There are Severe Life Long Complications, Loss of Pleasure -by- having the "C!itoris Removed" - that is what a simple female circumcision is - Even when done in a Hospital.
The "Loss of Sexual Pleasure, Complications, Pain and Infections" are -"Life Long".
And they can lead to Death, that is Why it is Illegal.!
When a full circumcision is done:
The urinary tract is rerouted to go out threw a small hole left at the vaginal opening.
Menstrual fluid backing up-due to that opening being as small as a corn cornel-[the small the opening the better] making this even more dangerous.
And, the woman has to be cut open - when ever her husband wants to have vaginal sex.[and for child birth - and sewn back up ]
Due to this and blood loss and infection, Many female babies, young girls, and woman have Died from these complications, even when done in a hospital.- That is why it is Illegal.!
Very good post,and is what this procedure basically consists of,and has been fatal,and is nothing more than mutilation..

“Captain Karl's Cod Boat”

Since: Aug 08

receiver of lies...

#36 Sep 15, 2008
Carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good post,and is what this procedure basically consists of,and has been fatal,and is nothing more than mutilation..
Thank you Carol.!

And as an added bonus for this to be pleasing to a man:

1] Selfish Males - Don't have to bother with the female-foreplay issue. Because they don't have a Clitor!s, or Sexua! organs to fore-play with.

2] Selfish Males - Because she has No
C!itoris-No Sexual Desire at all - This forces the woman/rape into giving males oral/bj's.

Since: Jan 08

New Liskeard, Canada

#37 Sep 15, 2008
"just the cutting off of a males Foreskin.!"

I'm gonna have to go ahead and say you are completely underplaying what "just a foreskin" is...

Like Holland says, there are varieties of female circumcision where the less radical versions are probably less invasive than a "just a foreskin" removal.

Of course there are more radical circumcisions that are "worse" than the removal of "just a foreskin".

On the other hand, there are procedures like the "Yemen Male Circumcision" where flesh is peeled all the way from a males' belly button down the shaft of his penis which leaves him essentially crippled for close to a year....

Yeah, that sounds like "just a foreskin"...

But I think the real issue at hand is that BOTH are disgusting, BOTH are unnecessary, and BOTH should be illegal. It just saddens me that Male Mutilation is still shrugged off as "just a foreskin".

(Sorry to have quoted that line so much, but to me, it represents all that is still wrong with the concept of male circumcision today)

Since: Jan 08

New Liskeard, Canada

#38 Sep 15, 2008
(sorry for the double post... ISP probs)

Since: Jan 08

New Liskeard, Canada

#39 Sep 15, 2008
http://www.circumstitions.com/yemen.html

Here is the link explaining a "yemen circumcision"...

excerpt...

"As will be seen from the accompanying photos, the whole of the skin from a point just below the umbilicus to the root of the penis, with all the hair-bearing area, and all the skin of the penis, as far as the scrotum, is removed. In some cases, as in photo No.2, a portion of the penile urethra is also removed, of course unintentionally. Several such cases of loss of a portion of the urethra, in one case fully one inch, have been treated at this hospital."

“Captain Karl's Cod Boat”

Since: Aug 08

receiver of lies...

#40 Sep 15, 2008
fishbulb80 wrote:
"just the cutting off of a males Foreskin.!"
I'm gonna have to go ahead and say you are completely underplaying what "just a foreskin" is...
Like Holland says, there are varieties of female circumcision where the less radical versions are probably less invasive than a "just a foreskin" removal.
Of course there are more radical circumcisions that are "worse" than the removal of "just a foreskin".
On the other hand, there are procedures like the "Yemen Male Circumcision" where flesh is peeled all the way from a males' belly button down the shaft of his penis which leaves him essentially crippled for close to a year....
Yeah, that sounds like "just a foreskin"...
But I think the real issue at hand is that BOTH are disgusting, BOTH are unnecessary, and BOTH should be illegal. It just saddens me that Male Mutilation is still shrugged off as "just a foreskin".
(Sorry to have quoted that line so much, but to me, it represents all that is still wrong with the concept of male circumcision today)
No your wrong..

Female Circumcision is making a female a "female-Eunuch"

Is the the cutting off of the external
"C!itoris", or the Complete removal of all "Internal and External"connecting tissue of the C!itoris.

I found no websites or any information support your other claim about male circumcision, if you one then please post a link to it.

I agree, making a male-Eunuch, would just as cruel and sadistic.

“Mystery Repeats”

Since: May 08

Dordrecht

#41 Sep 15, 2008
BrightEyedBeauty wrote:
<quoted text>
You have NO idea what your talking about, as usual Holland.! And, I Have done the Research.. Maybe you should..
Holland - If you had a choice you would be more then willingly to hand over your foreskin- Instead of having your whole pen!s
cut off or- Having this done to you as a female.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/image/176765 ...
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/female-ge ...
Proof - Female Circumcision-Female Mutilation - Is Very-Different then just the cutting off of a males Foreskin.!
For you or for anyone to say that they are the "Same" - is just as Sadistic and Insane - as the procedure itself.!
Female circumcision is - Equal to cutting Off all outer Male Sex Organs - ie: Eunuch.!
How is being made a "Eunuch" - equal to having a "foreskin" cut off .. Holland.???
They are Not the Same, are they.!
Female Circumcision is turning a Female - into a "Female-Eunuch"
[ Intentionally - So she "Can 'Not' have Pleasure", period -- instead of a Chastity Belt.!]
There are Severe Life Long Complications, Loss of Pleasure -by- having the "C!itoris Removed" - that is what a simple female circumcision is - Even when done in a Hospital.
The "Loss of Sexual Pleasure, Complications, Pain and Infections" are -"Life Long".
And they can lead to Death, that is Why it is Illegal.!
When a full circumcision is done:
The urinary tract is rerouted to go out threw a small hole left at the vaginal opening.
Menstrual fluid backing up-due to that opening being as small as a corn cornel-[the small the opening the better] making this even more dangerous.
And, the woman has to be cut open - when ever her husband wants to have vaginal sex.[and for child birth - and sewn back up ]
Due to this and blood loss and infection, Many female babies, young girls, and woman have Died from these complications, even when done in a hospital.- That is why it is Illegal.!
first the links u sent me dont do anything, and reer o pages that dont exist.

not all female circumcision it complete removal of all. u should know that the is also the most common form of female circ is when just a little of the clitoral hood is removed, which is the exact same thing as the general male circ. in yemen there is a form of male circ that means removal of all crouch area skin. just ask bin laden.

now there are men who have a to tight circ or a bad circ tyoe which will indeed cause them pain to.

male circ also causes loss of pleasure!!!
to make it a big difference between male and female circ is sexist.

dont get me wrong im against circ male and female.

now understand and try to think rationally, the claim that is made is that the foreskin would be useless or does not serve any function(wich is tottally wrong) but now if that is the reason to remove it, and with that removing a mans sexual pleasure, then chopping a cling off will reduce sexual pleasure also, both are saddistic dont be foolish to believe female is so much worse, they are both as awfull

of course they dont want to stop male circ in the us, why? it earns over 400 million a year

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