Defence is sitting on 1000 sex abuse allegations

Unleashed the flood gates ... Defence Minister, Stephen Smith, was inundated with complaints after the sex Skype scandal of April last year.

[holly]

1000 cases of sexual abuse! Is this how they train the army! What is sexual abuse! How many cases would get thrown out! Sexual abuse happens every where and anytime! Maybe if proven guilty they could be then use for target practice? I recall a person charged last year for filming over a shower screen! Is that abuse! They kill people for a living don't they! What am I missing? A change of mind? No person should be subject to sexual abuse! Is media blowing this sky high?

[Afeemchi]

I sexually abused my dog

[holly]

Afeemchi wrote:

I sexually abused my dog

Well you should join the army?

[sairla Fixers]

holly wrote:

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Well you should join the army?

Why to get lynched?

[Elias]

holly wrote:

1000 cases of sexual abuse! Is this how they train the army! What is sexual abuse! How many cases would get thrown out! Sexual abuse happens every where and anytime! Maybe if proven guilty they could be then use for target practice? I recall a person charged last year for filming over a shower screen! Is that abuse! They kill people for a living don't they! What am I missing? A change of mind? No person should be subject to sexual abuse! Is media blowing this sky high?

The tradition of "ragging" new recruits and "initiating them" goes back to British times. The army maintains it's traditions as it's part of their (perceived) "team building" but things changed as more female recruits joined the army and navy.

Any form of activity involving males acting in a group to coerce a female to do something against her will is under civil law a form of sexual harassment. The lids open now with the complaints. In the old days there was a male code of silence, I'm guessing this will all be dumped.

[holly]

Elias wrote:

<quoted text>The tradition of "ragging" new recruits and "initiating them" goes back to British times. The army maintains it's traditions as it's part of their (perceived) "team building" but things changed as more female recruits joined the army and navy.

Any form of activity involving males acting in a group to coerce a female to do something against her will is under civil law a form of sexual harassment. The lids open now with the complaints. In the old days there was a male code of silence, I'm guessing this will all be dumped.

So if females want to join should they not put up with it! What if they where at war! I'm guessing there's no such thing as sexual harassment when at war! Men will always be men!

[Turd Skin]

holly wrote:

1000 cases of sexual abuse! Is this how they train the army! What is sexual abuse! How many cases would get thrown out! Sexual abuse happens every where and anytime! Maybe if proven guilty they could be then use for target practice? I recall a person charged last year for filming over a shower screen! Is that abuse! They kill people for a living don't they! What am I missing? A change of mind? No person should be subject to sexual abuse! Is media blowing this sky high?

They should hire the Sexual Harrassment Koala to teach them about sexual harrassment.

[Elias]

holly wrote:

<quoted text>I'm guessing there's no such thing as sexual harassment when at war! Men will always be men!

Well that may be an argument put forward that ragging is a way of brutalising young recruits into the hardship of the army. War is certainly not for the faint hearted. You are training people to kill on the frontline and not be put off by seeing their mates get their heads blown off. There's also PTSD which many who come back suffer from.

This off course doesn't justify rape, but it does beg the question, will female recruits make the army weaker? mentally and physically?

[holly]

Elias wrote:

<quoted text>Well that may be an argument put forward that ragging is a way of brutalising young recruits into the hardship of the army. War is certainly not for the faint hearted. You are training people to kill on the frontline and not be put off by seeing their mates get their heads blown off. There's also PTSD which many who come back suffer from.

This off course doesn't justify rape, but it does beg the question, will female recruits make the army weaker? mentally and physically?

I So agree! It's sad our girls want guns! Nothing justifies rape!

[sairla Fixers]

holly wrote:

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I So agree! It's sad our girls want guns! Nothing justifies rape!

they will be so greatful but will they love it?

[John Barnes]

sairla Fixers wrote:

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they will be so greatful but will they love it?

And whaT Are you up to you filthy BEADY with all the FIXERS add on aliases???

[QUMquats]

holly wrote:

1000 cases of sexual abuse! Is this how they train the army! What is sexual abuse! How many cases would get thrown out! Sexual abuse happens every where and anytime! Maybe if proven guilty they could be then use for target practice? I recall a person charged last year for filming over a shower screen! Is that abuse! They kill people for a living don't they! What am I missing? A change of mind? No person should be subject to sexual abuse! Is media blowing this sky high?

Nobody at a Government level wants to deal with abuse cases period.
I reported cases of disgusting abuse in writing as a health worker, nothing was done about it.(oh counselling for the perpetrator, some time off and then supervised) It's easier for people to stick their heads in the sand and make life hell for the people who actually speak up about it, then deal with the abusers.
Whistleblowers RARELY beat the system, the system beats them.

[holly]

QUMquats wrote:

<quoted text>Nobody at a Government level wants to deal with abuse cases period.
I reported cases of disgusting abuse in writing as a health worker, nothing was done about it.(oh counselling for the perpetrator, some time off and then supervised) It's easier for people to stick their heads in the sand and make life hell for the people who actually speak up about it, then deal with the abusers.
Whistleblowers RARELY beat the system, the system beats them.

I agree! The old saying innocent till proven guilty! Doesn't that get them of the hook! Mind you not all are guilty. What do you describe as disgusting abuse? If you have a case you stand up for it! If it's messing with unwilling people! That's rape! You can't afford to dwell on this! It's a toxic cancer causing subject! Not your cancer! It's sad! Health you do try to save and fix people! God bless! In the Army you shoot people dead! thats the job! Hunt and kill!

[True Israelite]

holly wrote:

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So if females want to join should they not put up with it! What if they where at war! I'm guessing there's no such thing as sexual harassment when at war! Men will always be men!

There shouldnt be any women in the defense forces period!
Except maybe logisitics jobs.

These sexual abuse problems are due to the fact women were allowed into the defense forces. This is another failure of looney-leftist policies.

[holly]

True Israelite wrote:

<quoted text>There shouldnt be any women in the defense forces period!
Except maybe logisitics jobs.

These sexual abuse problems are due to the fact women were allowed into the defense forces. This is another failure of looney-leftist policies.

I agree!
But it's the lesbians/ fems ( i have nothing against gays)who are better than the men that have made that Choice! Give them a gun and stick them on the front line!

[LMR]

Elias wrote:

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The tradition of "ragging" new recruits and "initiating them" goes back to British times. The army maintains it's traditions as it's part of their (perceived) "team building" but things changed as more female recruits joined the army and navy.
Any form of activity involving males acting in a group to coerce a female to do something against her will is under civil law a form of sexual harassment. The lids open now with the complaints. In the old days there was a male code of silence, I'm guessing this will all be dumped.

This is what comes of the government having all their advertising campaigns and programs to: stop bullying, be anally-retentive about occupational health and safety, treat people like criminals if they drive 3km over reduced speed limits, have a quit-smoking day, say no to drugs and blah blah blah..

People are taking this shyt seriously and now the government is in trouble like the rest of society

[LMR]

QUMquats wrote:

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Nobody at a Government level wants to deal with abuse cases period.
I reported cases of disgusting abuse in writing as a health worker, nothing was done about it.(oh counselling for the perpetrator, some time off and then supervised) It's easier for people to stick their heads in the sand and make life hell for the people who actually speak up about it, then deal with the abusers.
Whistleblowers RARELY beat the system, the system beats them.

That is sadly true.

[LMR]

holly wrote:

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I agree!
But it's the lesbians/ fems ( i have nothing against gays)who are better than the men that have made that Choice! Give them a gun and stick them on the front line!

Whatever their sexual orientation they signed up to do an important job that not too many other people would put their hand up for and they don't deserve to be abused by their own people. And it's not just the women complaining - there have also been cases of men suiciding because of relentless and brutal bullying.

[Elias]

LMR wrote:

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This is what comes of the government having all their advertising campaigns and programs to: stop bullying, be anally-retentive about occupational health and safety, treat people like criminals if they drive 3km over reduced speed limits, have a quit-smoking day, say no to drugs and blah blah blah..
People are taking this shyt seriously and now the government is in trouble like the rest of society

I think all the above have some underlying merit, it's the delivery and approach which hasn't been an overwhelming success. The Australian Medical Association has been backpedaling recently over it's former position over 2 standard drinks is OK. Now the latest research indicates no amount of alcohol is good for you. How do you get that message out to a country where drinking is a national pastime?