The big difference between Jimmy Savile and Michael Jackson? Beats me

There are 20 comments on the Nov 18, 2012, The Daily Record story titled The big difference between Jimmy Savile and Michael Jackson? Beats me. In it, The Daily Record reports that:

IF you are a grown man in your 20s, 30s or 40s who wants to have sex with teenage girls aged 13 or 14, surely that means there is something wrong with you.

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“at yet more f'loonspin”

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#1 Nov 18, 2012
I must applaud the author of this article, John Niven. At last, somebody acknowledges Jordan's description of the blotches on Michael's Thang was accurate and makes the connection between the accuracy of the photos and Michael's quick settlement. I wish the american press would stop dancing around that issue.

I can't wait to see the f'loon comments.

However, I also do condemn letting celebrities, such as Jimmy Page and Bill Wyman, get away with sleeping with teenage girls, around the ages of 13 and 14. And Roman Polanski still needs to do his prison time for raping and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl.

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#3 Nov 18, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
I must applaud the author of this article, John Niven. At last, somebody acknowledges Jordan's description of the blotches on Michael's Thang was accurate and makes the connection between the accuracy of the photos and Michael's quick settlement. I wish the american press would stop dancing around that issue.
I can't wait to see the f'loon comments.
However, I also do condemn letting celebrities, such as Jimmy Page and Bill Wyman, get away with sleeping with teenage girls, around the ages of 13 and 14. And Roman Polanski still needs to do his prison time for raping and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl.
I know about Bill Wyman but Jimmy Page?

Some poster called Page a pedophile on the Van Halen forum.

It was because of this girl Page saw while in Zeppelin in the 70's.

Lori Maddox, I think her name is.

However, Jimmy was never accused of that until most recently.

In the book, "Hammer Of The Gods" I didn't get that impression.

I just pictured her as his young groupie girlfriend.

None of the others in the band said anything?

I was just wondering how that slipped my mind in the eighties.

Because I've never thought of Jimmy Page as a pedophile.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

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#4 Nov 19, 2012
octo wrote:
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I know about Bill Wyman but Jimmy Page?
Some poster called Page a pedophile on the Van Halen forum.
It was because of this girl Page saw while in Zeppelin in the 70's.
Lori Maddox, I think her name is.
However, Jimmy was never accused of that until most recently.
In the book, "Hammer Of The Gods" I didn't get that impression.
I just pictured her as his young groupie girlfriend.
None of the others in the band said anything?
I was just wondering how that slipped my mind in the eighties.
Because I've never thought of Jimmy Page as a pedophile.
If the girl was only 14 years old, I have to start asking questions. Even if the child was starstruck enough to want him, he was still the adult and should have exercised responsibility. I'd appreciate more research done, on this, if you can find something. Because what the author wrote was a surprise to me.

I remember when Bill woman married her, after she reached legal age (shudder), his bandmate Charlie Watts said, "I never told him it was going to last." He made his disapproval known. I know I was creeped out when I heard how young she was when he began "dating" a child, if you can call it that.

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#5 Nov 19, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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If the girl was only 14 years old, I have to start asking questions. Even if the child was starstruck enough to want him, he was still the adult and should have exercised responsibility. I'd appreciate more research done, on this, if you can find something. Because what the author wrote was a surprise to me.
I remember when Bill woman married her, after she reached legal age (shudder), his bandmate Charlie Watts said, "I never told him it was going to last." He made his disapproval known. I know I was creeped out when I heard how young she was when he began "dating" a child, if you can call it that.
I'm not sure how a 14 year old would be traveling with a rock band.

It was the 70's and it just wasn't Jimmy Page.

He had three band mates, Richard Cole and Peter Grant also there.

I suspect that Lori Maddox was older.

Otherwise, it would've shown up long before now.

Maybe, it is just an error or rumor of her true age.

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#6 Nov 19, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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If the girl was only 14 years old, I have to start asking questions. Even if the child was starstruck enough to want him, he was still the adult and should have exercised responsibility. I'd appreciate more research done, on this, if you can find something. Because what the author wrote was a surprise to me.
I remember when Bill woman married her, after she reached legal age (shudder), his bandmate Charlie Watts said, "I never told him it was going to last." He made his disapproval known. I know I was creeped out when I heard how young she was when he began "dating" a child, if you can call it that.
I goggled Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox, Len.

I couldn't believe the stuff I've read.

What parent would allow a child to be a groupie?

Disturbing and nasty stuff on the internet these days.

Lori Maddox actually slept with David and Angela Bowie at 13...

Yuck.

Teen Angels: 1O Musicians With A Penchant For Young Girls:

1. R Kelly
2. Jerry Lee Lewis
3. Bill Wyman
4. Don Henley
5. Chuck Berry
6. David Bowie
7. Jimmy Page
8. Ted Nugent
9. Sonny Bono
10. Don Johnson

Sonny Bono because he was with Cher but still became a congressman.

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#7 Nov 19, 2012
octo wrote:
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I goggled Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox, Len.
I couldn't believe the stuff I've read.
What parent would allow a child to be a groupie?
Disturbing and nasty stuff on the internet these days.
Lori Maddox actually slept with David and Angela Bowie at 13...
Yuck.
Teen Angels: 1O Musicians With A Penchant For Young Girls:
1. R Kelly
2. Jerry Lee Lewis
3. Bill Wyman
4. Don Henley
5. Chuck Berry
6. David Bowie
7. Jimmy Page
8. Ted Nugent
9. Sonny Bono
10. Don Johnson
Sonny Bono because he was with Cher but still became a congressman.
Shame on Lori Maddox's parents. CPS should have been brought in. I knew Jerry Lee Lewis was a pedophile. Look how young his cousin was when he started "dating" her and when he married her.

Anyone who sleeps with a child puts up a red flag, for me. How many other children did they sleep with? Even if they are not serial pedophiles and molested one or two children, they should still be brought to task, by the authorities. Sexually abusing one child is one child too many.

“VITILIGO”

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#8 Nov 20, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Shame on Lori Maddox's parents. CPS should have been brought in. I knew Jerry Lee Lewis was a pedophile. Look how young his cousin was when he started "dating" her and when he married her.
Anyone who sleeps with a child puts up a red flag, for me. How many other children did they sleep with? Even if they are not serial pedophiles and molested one or two children, they should still be brought to task, by the authorities. Sexually abusing one child is one child too many.
You can't have it all ways, Len. On the one hand you say that paedophiles are exclusively attracted to children (which, going by the straight definition of the word, is correct), then you call JLL one. He wasn't. What he was was a product of his environment in the Deep South, a place which allowed for teenage girls to marry at the age of 12. That law wasn't changed until 1957, and I'd argue that Elvis was the same as JLL in that they were raised in a world where those are the relationships that they would have witnessed and therefore not necessarily questioned.

If they acted that way in 2012 then you would have a valid point, but life is about learning and progress and as societies evolve so does the acceptabilityk, or nor acceptability, of certain things.

By the way, I always think it's odd when Elvis is mentioned as some kind of paedophile (even though he is known to have bedded countless lucky sluts) whilst R Kelly is ignored. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he plagiarised a song for Wacko? I also find it odd that Chas hasn't attached himself to the great miscarriage of justice that went alongside R Kelly's acquittal.

“VITILIGO”

Since: Jun 10

IS A BIOTCH

#9 Nov 20, 2012
BTW, I played cribbage with Jimmy Page once. I always wondered why he didn't hit on me, and now I know - I was too old. Phew! I've spent years thinking that I must be losing my touch.

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#11 Nov 20, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Shame on Lori Maddox's parents. CPS should have been brought in. I knew Jerry Lee Lewis was a pedophile. Look how young his cousin was when he started "dating" her and when he married her.
Anyone who sleeps with a child puts up a red flag, for me. How many other children did they sleep with? Even if they are not serial pedophiles and molested one or two children, they should still be brought to task, by the authorities. Sexually abusing one child is one child too many.
Jimmy Page used Lori Maddox then dumped her when he was done.

I've read that he was cruel to her by seeing another girl.

They fought over him and he was amused by it. Thought it was funny.

So really, Jimmy Page is a scumbag.

However, where were Lori's parents?

A 14 year old girl shouldn't be traveling on the road with a band.

Partying, drinking and doing drugs as a groupie to rock stars.

She was used and discarded like a piece of trash. Disgusting.

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#12 Nov 20, 2012
J-J-Jina Wild wrote:
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You can't have it all ways, Len. On the one hand you say that paedophiles are exclusively attracted to children (which, going by the straight definition of the word, is correct), then you call JLL one. He wasn't. What he was was a product of his environment in the Deep South, a place which allowed for teenage girls to marry at the age of 12. That law wasn't changed until 1957, and I'd argue that Elvis was the same as JLL in that they were raised in a world where those are the relationships that they would have witnessed and therefore not necessarily questioned.
If they acted that way in 2012 then you would have a valid point, but life is about learning and progress and as societies evolve so does the acceptabilityk, or nor acceptability, of certain things.
By the way, I always think it's odd when Elvis is mentioned as some kind of paedophile (even though he is known to have bedded countless lucky sluts) whilst R Kelly is ignored. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he plagiarised a song for Wacko? I also find it odd that Chas hasn't attached himself to the great miscarriage of justice that went alongside R Kelly's acquittal.
Jerry Lee at least married his 13 year old cousin.

Their marriage lasted 25 years.

Anyway, Jerry Lee's career suffered a backlash at the time.

It was crazy for Jerry Lee to do but they were legally married.

The laws have changed since then in all 50 states.

R Kelly is perhaps the worst on the list.

He got in trouble over and over again.

They actually found child porn in his possession most recently.

But it was thrown out of court for some reason.

R Kelly is getting away with his lifestyle because of his wealth.

Wrong on all counts.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

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#13 Nov 20, 2012
J-J-Jina Wild wrote:
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You can't have it all ways, Len. On the one hand you say that paedophiles are exclusively attracted to children (which, going by the straight definition of the word, is correct), then you call JLL one. He wasn't. What he was was a product of his environment in the Deep South, a place which allowed for teenage girls to marry at the age of 12. That law wasn't changed until 1957, and I'd argue that Elvis was the same as JLL in that they were raised in a world where those are the relationships that they would have witnessed and therefore not necessarily questioned.
If they acted that way in 2012 then you would have a valid point, but life is about learning and progress and as societies evolve so does the acceptabilityk, or nor acceptability, of certain things.
By the way, I always think it's odd when Elvis is mentioned as some kind of paedophile (even though he is known to have bedded countless lucky sluts) whilst R Kelly is ignored. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he plagiarised a song for Wacko? I also find it odd that Chas hasn't attached himself to the great miscarriage of justice that went alongside R Kelly's acquittal.
You have a valid point. But would those who were from the Deep South, before 1957, do it again in this day and age, knowing what we all know, now? Otherwise, I can definitely accept your response.

“VITILIGO”

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#14 Nov 21, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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You have a valid point. But would those who were from the Deep South, before 1957, do it again in this day and age, knowing what we all know, now? Otherwise, I can definitely accept your response.
We'll never know the answer to that one. However, we do know that Wacko diddled little boys during an era where there was nothing acceptable about it.
King Elvis

Sydney, Australia

#16 Nov 28, 2012
Oh, please.

There is a difference between pedophilia and sleeping with young teenage girls.

Wacko preyed on 10 and 11 year old boys, and pre-pubescent ones at that.

There's a big difference between them and teenage girls of 13 or 14.

The other guy in the article is right: most men would sleep with girls of 13 or 14 if they could. It's only the law (often, stupidly, waiting until 18 for the age of consent) that prevents them from doing so.

The problem of teenage pregnancy aside, kids of 13 or 14 ARE ready for sex, and should be allowed to engage in it.

And don't be outraged, either: are you telling me that at that age, you didn't have sex figured out?

We're basically animals, and yet the law makes us wait, often for up to five years, to do something that should be natural, but is treated with shame.

Sleeping with teen girls that are past puberty does not make a man a pedophile.

Wacko, of course, was a pedophile.
evie

Providence, RI

#17 Nov 28, 2012
King Elvis wrote:
Oh, please.
There is a difference between pedophilia and sleeping with young teenage girls.
Wacko preyed on 10 and 11 year old boys, and pre-pubescent ones at that.
There's a big difference between them and teenage girls of 13 or 14.
The other guy in the article is right: most men would sleep with girls of 13 or 14 if they could. It's only the law (often, stupidly, waiting until 18 for the age of consent) that prevents them from doing so.
The problem of teenage pregnancy aside, kids of 13 or 14 ARE ready for sex, and should be allowed to engage in it.
And don't be outraged, either: are you telling me that at that age, you didn't have sex figured out?
We're basically animals, and yet the law makes us wait, often for up to five years, to do something that should be natural, but is treated with shame.
Sleeping with teen girls that are past puberty does not make a man a pedophile.
Wacko, of course, was a pedophile.
pervert's in the house.
King Elvis

Sydney, Australia

#18 Nov 28, 2012
evie wrote:
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pervert's in the house.
Oh, do shut up floonie.
evie

Providence, RI

#19 Nov 28, 2012
King Elvis wrote:
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Oh, do shut up floonie.
You shut up child fancier
King Elvis

Sydney, Australia

#20 Nov 28, 2012
A 14 year old girl isn't a child, floonie.

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#22 Dec 1, 2012
J-J-Jina Wild wrote:
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We'll never know the answer to that one. However, we do know that Wacko diddled little boys during an era where there was nothing acceptable about it.
True, on all counts.

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#23 Dec 1, 2012
King Elvis wrote:
Oh, please.
There is a difference between pedophilia and sleeping with young teenage girls.
Wacko preyed on 10 and 11 year old boys, and pre-pubescent ones at that.
There's a big difference between them and teenage girls of 13 or 14.
The other guy in the article is right: most men would sleep with girls of 13 or 14 if they could. It's only the law (often, stupidly, waiting until 18 for the age of consent) that prevents them from doing so.
The problem of teenage pregnancy aside, kids of 13 or 14 ARE ready for sex, and should be allowed to engage in it.
And don't be outraged, either: are you telling me that at that age, you didn't have sex figured out?
We're basically animals, and yet the law makes us wait, often for up to five years, to do something that should be natural, but is treated with shame.
Sleeping with teen girls that are past puberty does not make a man a pedophile.
Wacko, of course, was a pedophile.
I'd like you to talk to Samantha Geimler about your opinion of grown men who want to sleep with young girls. She's the 13-year-old girl Roman Polanski drugged, raped, and sodomized. When she tells the story of what happened, she still starts shaking.

At 13 and 14 years of age, I liked boys my own age. I thought grown men who tried to "hit" on me were creepy. Whether or not grown men want to sleep with girls who are 13 or 14, the bigger questions are what do those girls think about it and what is the impact this has on them?
King Elvis

Marrickville, Australia

#24 Dec 1, 2012
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I'd like you to talk to Samantha Geimler about your opinion of grown men who want to sleep with young girls. She's the 13-year-old girl Roman Polanski drugged, raped, and sodomized. When she tells the story of what happened, she still starts shaking.
Shaking, you say? And what do you base that claim on exactly?

Oh, you mean THIS Samantha Geimler who "has publicly said that she forgave the Polish-born director and supported his efforts across the years to dismiss the case against him."?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-p...

The same Samantha Geimlwer, who, in her own words "got over it long ago"?

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-09-28/go...

The Samantha Geimler who "in 1997, filed a formal request that Los Angeles prosecutors drop the charges against him."

The Samantha Geimler who blames the media for keeping the Polanksi case going?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/exclusive-rom...

Nice try, Len, but that ain't gonna fly.

And, before the bleeding hearts get all hot and bothered, NO: drugging and raping a 13yo girl is unacceptable.

But, despite what happened to her then, Samantha is fine now. By her OWN admission.

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