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the Oracle

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#25
Jul 17, 2012
 
I don't know what happened to my other post, so I will try again.

I KNOW Scott didn't kill Laci, and this is why.

Laci's autopsy was not done properly. The uterus was described as not pregnant, but what is WAS was post partum at 23 cm. That is the size of a uterus 1.5-2 weeks post partum (or after the birth). The uterus can only contract when it is alive, so Laci was alive for 1.5-2 weeks after Connor was taken, through the 10cm cut in the top (fundus).(Ten cm is the standard size opening needed to accommodate a near-term fetus.) Since Scot was under observation from nearly the time Laci was reported missing, he could not have killed her.

Conner had to have been removed 1.5-2 weeks before Laci died to allow the uterus to contract from 32cm (or any larger number) to 23 cm. Only a living uterus can contract, get smaller. This is different than collapsing, leaving the uterus the same size as the fetus, 32+cm.

DeVore gave an estimate of Connor's age at the time of his death. It really doesn't matter. DeVore's and the medical examiner's mistake was not having compared the autopsy (clinical) information to the ultrasound information. As an expert in ultrasound, I say that you must compare the ultrasound information to the clinical information, or you will make a mistake. That is exactly what DeVore and the ME didn't do. A 32+wk fetus = 32+cm fetus WILL NOT FIT in a 23 cm uterus. These two findings do not match. Why not" Because Connor was taken through the cut in the top of the uterus 1.5-2 weeks before Laci died.

Why did each body look so different when they were discovered? They were stored in different places.

The bodies were FOUND ashore. There is no evidence they washed ashore.

Scott could not have killed Laci or Connor.

Years ago, I told the Peterson's investigator this, and he just shrugged me off. I didn't want to testify then, as I was ill. I will testify now.
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#26
Jul 17, 2012
 
In addition to the unreliability of the dogs, there is the non-sighting of laci when Scott Peterson launched his boat. If he had transported her corpse from the bed of his truck to the boat, somebody would have seen him, but nobody did.
marlenehasnocred

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#27
Jul 18, 2012
 
dope4life wrote:
Hi Oracle LTNS.
Scott's just filed appeal will definitely result in a second trial. And if he is awarded a new trial based on the dog tracking evidence (a centerpiece issue in his appeal) being far too unreliable, then it will be hard for any prosecutor to win a conviction again. Because the dog evidence was the only evidence offered in the first trial that allegedly placed Laci at the marina around the time that Scott was there.
Yeah right, when hell freezes over which is what you still are waiting for. You are one giant bonehead. You were wrong from day one of this case and still are. Keep beating your no life head against the wall. SP will be brought out in a box and you'll still be wishing him to be free. How pathetic of you.

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#28
Jul 18, 2012
 
the Oracle wrote:
I don't know what happened to my other post, so I will try again.
I KNOW Scott didn't kill Laci, and this is why.
Laci's autopsy was not done properly. The uterus was described as not pregnant, but what is WAS was post partum at 23 cm. That is the size of a uterus 1.5-2 weeks post partum (or after the birth). The uterus can only contract when it is alive, so Laci was alive for 1.5-2 weeks after Connor was taken, through the 10cm cut in the top (fundus).(Ten cm is the standard size opening needed to accommodate a near-term fetus.) Since Scot was under observation from nearly the time Laci was reported missing, he could not have killed her.
Conner had to have been removed 1.5-2 weeks before Laci died to allow the uterus to contract from 32cm (or any larger number) to 23 cm. Only a living uterus can contract, get smaller. This is different than collapsing, leaving the uterus the same size as the fetus, 32+cm.
DeVore gave an estimate of Connor's age at the time of his death. It really doesn't matter. DeVore's and the medical examiner's mistake was not having compared the autopsy (clinical) information to the ultrasound information. As an expert in ultrasound, I say that you must compare the ultrasound information to the clinical information, or you will make a mistake. That is exactly what DeVore and the ME didn't do. A 32+wk fetus = 32+cm fetus WILL NOT FIT in a 23 cm uterus. These two findings do not match. Why not" Because Connor was taken through the cut in the top of the uterus 1.5-2 weeks before Laci died.
Why did each body look so different when they were discovered? They were stored in different places.
The bodies were FOUND ashore. There is no evidence they washed ashore.
Scott could not have killed Laci or Connor.
Years ago, I told the Peterson's investigator this, and he just shrugged me off. I didn't want to testify then, as I was ill. I will testify now.
Hi Oracle, it's nice to see that you are still actively following the case.

I well remember your position as to why Scott should have been found not guilty, which you once expressed as follows: "I get to practice mine all the time. Today, it was at the dentist's office. They asked me what I thought of Scott Peterson.

So you KNOW what I said. I said, I don't think he innocent, I KNOW he is innocent.

How do you fit a 32 cm CRL (crown to-rump length) fetus in a 23 cm uterus?(Pause for answer.) You can't.

How does a 32 cm uterus get to be a 23 cm uterus in under 24 hrs?(Pause) It doesn't. It can't.

How does it do that anyway? It contracts. It can't shrink. It can collapse, but then it won't change size. The uterus has to be alive to contract.

Therefore, Laci had to be alive at least 1 1/2 to 2 weeks after she disappeared and after Conner was taken.

Therefore, she wasn't dumped in the Bay from the boat. If Conner were older, say 36 cm CRL, the size difference is even greater, so Connor's size doesn't matter, just the uterine size before and after Laci disappeared.

Therefore Scott is innocent."

(A big tip oh my hat to the Oracle.)

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#29
Jul 18, 2012
 
George wrote:
In addition to the unreliability of the dogs, there is the non-sighting of laci when Scott Peterson launched his boat. If he had transported her corpse from the bed of his truck to the boat, somebody would have seen him, but nobody did.
I consider the twice-knotted twine around Connor's neck to be exonerating evidence.

Dr. Wecht summed it up when he responded to a question Greta asked on 10-27-04.

WECHT: And you know that twine around the neck and over the shoulder, on the arm? How about if there is some kind of a bag that is over the baby that is held in place with that tape, and the bag dissolves and breaks apart in the water and the tape remains? There are a lot of explanations. The baby's head was 28 centimeters circumference. I measured 20 centimeters around the neck. You talk about something coming over the head, the body's floating in the water? You couldn't do that in a million years.
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#30
Jul 18, 2012
 
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I consider the twice-knotted twine around Connor's neck to be exonerating evidence.
Dr. Wecht summed it up when he responded to a question Greta asked on 10-27-04.
WECHT:... I measured 20 centimeters around the neck. You talk about something coming over the head, the body's floating in the water? You couldn't do that in a million years.
Too bad he didn't think more about the uterus, and he didn't compare it to Connor's size, or the last OB-GYN visit. He would have had an OMG moment, too.
How you been, Wudge? I am now retired to the city of the sun, Indio.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
the Oracle wrote:
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Too bad he didn't think more about the uterus, and he didn't compare it to Connor's size, or the last OB-GYN visit. He would have had an OMG moment, too.
How you been, Wudge? I am now retired to the city of the sun, Indio.
Hi Oracle, I've got some medical issues going, but at my age (80 next June)that's to be expected.

My top twenty list of probable wrongful convictions (Scott's cse is #6) had three cases overturned in 2011. So you can color me warm and fuzzy in recent times.

http://www.crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.p...
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#37
Aug 7, 2012
 
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Scott's appeal gets underway in August. Buckle up now for a second trial.
How'd that not work out for you, dolt?
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#38
Aug 7, 2012
 
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Hi Oracle, it's nice to see that you are still actively following the case.
I well remember your position as to why Scott should have been found not guilty, which you once expressed as follows: "I get to practice mine all the time. Today, it was at the dentist's office. They asked me what I thought of Scott Peterson.
So you KNOW what I said. I said, I don't think he innocent, I KNOW he is innocent.
How do you fit a 32 cm CRL (crown to-rump length) fetus in a 23 cm uterus?(Pause for answer.) You can't.
How does a 32 cm uterus get to be a 23 cm uterus in under 24 hrs?(Pause) It doesn't. It can't.
How does it do that anyway? It contracts. It can't shrink. It can collapse, but then it won't change size. The uterus has to be alive to contract.
Therefore, Laci had to be alive at least 1 1/2 to 2 weeks after she disappeared and after Conner was taken.
Therefore, she wasn't dumped in the Bay from the boat. If Conner were older, say 36 cm CRL, the size difference is even greater, so Connor's size doesn't matter, just the uterine size before and after Laci disappeared.
Therefore Scott is innocent."
(A big tip oh my hat to the Orca.)
Orca, Marlene no cred fatty who's been proven wrong just as much as you have. Therefore that makes you an idiot and Scott is still guilty.
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Aug 7, 2012
 
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<quoted text>Orca, Marlene no cred fatty who's been proven wrong just as much as you have. Therefore that makes you an idiot and Scott is still guilty.
I am not familiar with where I have been proven wrong, since that's not anatomically possible. Please show your link, snotty.
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Aug 7, 2012
 
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Hi Oracle, I've got some medical issues going, but at my age (80 next June)that's to be expected.
My top twenty list of probable wrongful convictions (Scott's cse is #6) had three cases overturned in 2011. So you can color me warm and fuzzy in recent times.
http://www.crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.p...
Good work, Wudge. OMG, I thought we were the same age, but I am a serious chippy (65) by comparison. Although, there are medical isssues here, too, since good health care is hard to find out here in the desert. I have to go back to Pasadena for REAL health care. Of course, you are in an area with better care. At least my DH and little Yorkie are OK.

Well, if you make it out here anytime, stop by to say "hello."
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Aug 9, 2012
 
the Oracle wrote:
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I am not familiar with where I have been proven wrong, since that's not anatomically possible. Please show your link, snotty.
You must be joking? Of course you are.
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Aug 9, 2012
 
the Oracle wrote:
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Good work, Wudge. OMG, I thought we were the same age, but I am a serious chippy (65) by comparison. Although, there are medical isssues here, too, since good health care is hard to find out here in the desert. I have to go back to Pasadena for REAL health care. Of course, you are in an area with better care. At least my DH and little Yorkie are OK.
Well, if you make it out here anytime, stop by to say "hello."
LMAO@good work Wudge? He's been proven wrong just as much as you have. God, how dense are you? very?
marleneisafool

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#43
Aug 9, 2012
 
the Oracle wrote:
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Good work, Wudge. OMG, I thought we were the same age, but I am a serious chippy (65) by comparison. Although, there are medical isssues here, too, since good health care is hard to find out here in the desert. I have to go back to Pasadena for REAL health care. Of course, you are in an area with better care. At least my DH and little Yorkie are OK.
Well, if you make it out here anytime, stop by to say "hello."
Wacked out Wudge has been run out of here on a rail as usual. His list has been proven wrong time and time again since Scotty got caught killing his wife and baby. Hey you still waiting by the non existant tip line? LMAO Your ignorance knows no bounds obviously. All one has to do is google Wudge or Gnarlene Newell and all your idiotic thinking as been debunked over and over. No cred Gnarlene is still laughed at. Rightfully so.
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#44
Aug 9, 2012
 
Proving somebody is innocent is impossible, unless the exact time of a crime is known and the accused has a solid alibi for that time. Since that is not the case here, other evidence must be used. There is no reliable evidence of the guilt of Scott Peterson, and there is scientific evidence that he is innocent, such as the twine around the baby's neck and the condition of Laci's uterus. There are no eye witness to any crime, at least none who have come forward, but there are people who saw Scott Peterson at the Berkeley Marina, and they have said there was no corpse in his boat. They certainly would have seen a dead body if one had been present.

The real problem is that the cops presumed Scott to be guilty and never looked into any alternatives, although there were other possibilities. A pregnant ADA suggested somebody might have targeted her and kidnapped Laci by mistake. Was that ever disproven? Was the presence of an occult group ever disproven? Such groups are not common, but they do exist, especially in CA.

Hopefully, he will get a fair trial the next time and will be found innocent and will be able to get his life back together.
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#45
Aug 10, 2012
 
George wrote:
Proving somebody is innocent is impossible, unless the exact time of a crime is known and the accused has a solid alibi for that time. Since that is not the case here, other evidence must be used. There is no reliable evidence of the guilt of Scott Peterson, and there is scientific evidence that he is innocent, such as the twine around the baby's neck and the condition of Laci's uterus. There are no eye witness to any crime, at least none who have come forward, but there are people who saw Scott Peterson at the Berkeley Marina, and they have said there was no corpse in his boat. They certainly would have seen a dead body if one had been present.
The real problem is that the cops presumed Scott to be guilty and never looked into any alternatives, although there were other possibilities. A pregnant ADA suggested somebody might have targeted her and kidnapped Laci by mistake. Was that ever disproven? Was the presence of an occult group ever disproven? Such groups are not common, but they do exist, especially in CA.
Hopefully, he will get a fair trial the next time and will be found innocent and will be able to get his life back together.
What a crock of shite. You trolls are idiots as usual. Missed the facts of the trial much have ya much? OBVIOUSLY

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