The Recovery Place Drug Rehab and Alcohol Treatment Center Has...

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The Recovery Place Drug Rehab and Alcohol Treatment Center Has Launched a New Website: ChristianDrugAbuse.com The Recovery Place is a drug rehab and alcohol treatment center that understands the complexities of alcohol and drug addiction and treats it as a disease that affects everyone differently.

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#21 May 23, 2011
RIP Pleasure Beach wrote:
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Faith has no "evidence" written in stone either, but for many people it works.
I suppose in healthy situations it offers comfort and positive encouragement. What's your point? If were discussing a disease, as so many claim that addiction is, we should be looking at hard facts.
RIP Pleasure Beach wrote:
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Who honestly cares if there is a scientific theorem or a mathematical equation proving or disproving the success rate of people's beliefs?.
Not me. I was discussing the failure rate of AA in sobering up alcoholics shown by controlled studies, most significantly by George Vaillant of Harvard University who showed no success rate and a higher death rate that he himself called "appalling", yet still raved about how wonderful AA is. None of your question holds any relevence to anything I've said, you're completely side-stepping.
RIP Pleasure Beach wrote:
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There really is no way to measure the success rate of people in an anonymous program. AA itself has admitted that.
Yes there is, outside of the controlled studies there is the ratio to tokens given out for sobriety milestones. AA doesn't want the success rate actually measured because they have been lying about it since 1939. When Bill Wilson wrote the words "Rarely have we seen a person fail" there were at best three members that had stayed sober more than six months.
RIP Pleasure Beach wrote:
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But at the same time, people in AA do not worship Bill Wilson as a profit, that is just plain and simply WRONG.
Are you honestly telling me you've never heard an AA claim that Bill was divinely inspired when he wrote the Big Book or formed the cult? Why haven't the first 164 pages of the Big Book been updated since they were first written?
RIP Pleasure Beach wrote:
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Neither does AA fund any treatment centers. Again, just WRONG.
Again, pure side-step. I never said that AA funded treatment centers.
RIP Pleasure Beach wrote:
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You are just WRONG about a lot of things. I would never force AA on you so don't force your opinion on others and call it fact.
You have yet to dispute anything I've said, you've even resorted to making things up and claiming I said them so you can knock them down. Doesn't help your case. Try again.
Ryan

Pompano Beach, FL

#22 Oct 28, 2011
The recovery place sucks the day your insurance runs out they throw you into some dingy halfway. Its an insurance scam John Cates the owner fucked a client only 4 months after she got out last year. Its horrible

AA is not a cult and twelve step fellowships work Headhunter is probably high right now writing all this shit. Maybe our brains as addicts are so messed up they need a fucking washing. AA asks nothing of us just that we help the next person who COMES TO US. we are not missionaries and I have two years sober and I am not a Christian at all but firm believer in AA which saved my life. But the

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#23 Oct 28, 2011
Ryan wrote:
The recovery place sucks the day your insurance runs out they throw you into some dingy halfway. Its an insurance scam John Cates the owner fucked a client only 4 months after she got out last year. Its horrible
Such is the case with many treatment centers that are nothing more than 12-step cult indoctrination facilities.
Ryan wrote:
AA is not a cult and twelve step fellowships work
Please post some evidence that 12-step programs, particularly AA, work to help people quit drinking. Not antecdotal evidence, but controlled studies. Show me even one where the result is people in AA recover at a higher rate than those who simply quit with no program. Lots of people parrot "AA works" but I'm waiting to see the claim backed up.
Ryan wrote:
Headhunter is probably high right now writing all this shit.
More cultish behavior. Anyone who disagrees with Bill Wilson's cult religion must be high, drunk or otherwise defective. Attacking me personally rather than dealing with my arguments is quite revealing.
Ryan wrote:
Maybe our brains as addicts are so messed up they need a fucking washing.
If, by your own admission, say your brain is messed up, why should I, or anyone else take anything you say seriously? You're also verifying that AA practices brainwashing, yet insist that it's not a cult? How can you have it both ways?
Ryan wrote:
AA asks nothing of us just that we help the next person who COMES TO US.
Largely via court-ordered attendance and treatment center indoctrination.
Ryan wrote:
we are not missionaries and I have two years sober and I am not a Christian at all but firm believer in AA which saved my life. But the
You saved your own life, AA only wants the credit for those that actually quit drinking, and puts the blame back on the individuals for the failures. This was quite a string of misinformation and denial.
Informed

Aliso Viejo, CA

#25 Dec 22, 2011
Psychiatry has no evidence !

But One addict helping anouther works !

Anyone ever get a chemical imbalance test ?????

learn more about this scam called psychiatry @

www.cchr.org its a very radical site but very true.

psychiatry almost killed me. I NEVER heard anyone in any rehab or 12 step meeting say "I found the RIGHT MEDS and everthing is better now" only stories of looking for this MYTH and getting sicker !

Psychiatric disorders are not medical diseases. There are no lab tests, brain scans, X-rays or chemical imbalance tests that can verify any mental disorder is a physical condition. This is not to say that people do not get depressed, or that people can’t experience emotional or mental duress, but psychiatry has repackaged these emotions and behaviors as “disease” in order to sell drugs and mistreatment. This is a brilliant marketing campaign, but it is not science.

Read more >> http://www.cchr.org/quick-facts/introduction....
Informed

Aliso Viejo, CA

#26 Dec 22, 2011
“No claim for a gene for a psychiatric condition has stood the test of time, in spite of popular misinformation.”—Dr. Joseph Glenmullen, Harvard Medical School psychiatrist

“….modern psychiatry has yet to convincingly prove the genetic/biological cause of any single mental illness.”—David Kaiser, psychiatrist

“In fourty years,‘biological’ psychiatry has yet to validate a single psychiatric condition/diagnosis as an abnormality/disease, or as anything ‘neurological,’‘biological,’‘c hemically-imbalanced’ or ‘genetic.’”—Dr. Fred Baughman Jr., child neurologist, Fellow of the American Academy of Neurology

http://www.cchr.org/quick-facts/no-genetic-pr...

12 step Meetings help, psychiatry is a scam.

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#27 Jan 2, 2012
Informed wrote:
“No claim for a gene for a psychiatric condition has stood the test of time, in spite of popular misinformation.”—Dr. Joseph Glenmullen, Harvard Medical School psychiatrist
“….modern psychiatry has yet to convincingly prove the genetic/biological cause of any single mental illness.”—David Kaiser, psychiatrist
“In fourty years,‘biological’ psychiatry has yet to validate a single psychiatric condition/diagnosis as an abnormality/disease, or as anything ‘neurological,’‘biological,’‘c hemically-imbalanced’ or ‘genetic.’”—Dr. Fred Baughman Jr., child neurologist, Fellow of the American Academy of Neurology
http://www.cchr.org/quick-facts/no-genetic-pr...
12 step Meetings help, psychiatry is a scam.
Another thinly-veiled Scientology front. Just another bat-sh*t crazy cult to avoid, they will only deplete you of all of your money and sanity. Is "auditing" because you're supposedly possessed by aliens really a healthy way to "fix" your mind? Disguising your damaging cult as legitimite medical science to entrap the weak is a really low, vile, despicible crime.
joe adams

United States

#28 Jan 19, 2012
that good for everyone i had three year clean until my wife pass away i fell off please help me

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#29 Jan 19, 2012
joe adams wrote:
that good for everyone i had three year clean until my wife pass away i fell off please help me
Sorry to hear of your wife.

You're not powerless to stop. I recommend that you start with some sort of grief counseling. You said it yourself, that was your trigger and cause of your return to self-destructive behavior.
Second, if you're a former or current cult member of a 12-step religion, shake off the feelings of worthlessness forced on you and recognize that you're self-fulfilling their dire prophecies. One of the more dangerous elements of the cult is the status attributed to "time". It makes the relapses far more dangerous and destructive because you feel you've lost all of your status.
Third, open yourself up to the people around you that love you and are concerned. Not fellow cult members that say the answer to everything is get a sponsor, work the steps and read the big book...I mean your real family, your blood. Seek comfort and recognize the importance of these relationships in your life.
Your grief will get better with time. Take care of yourself.
Kristenhayes

Kolkata, India

#31 May 4, 2012
I spent months in one of those alcohol rehab centers in California. Completion of the process is a bit difficult if you’re too much addicted, but what you’d get at the end, is worth bearing the pain. You’d feel what a normal person feels towards alcohol.
Sheik Yerbouti

Lambertville, NJ

#32 May 9, 2012
People should also beware of any narconon facilities. narconon is a front for the very dangerous scientology cult! They charge 30 grand a pop for scientology bullshit!
Terrell

Wildwood, FL

#33 May 17, 2012
Unfortunately, I was in a program for my alcoholism and trusted everyone. Well, one of my sponsors got me drunk and we made love all night. Problem is it was another guy and that was my first experience with another man. I feel ashamed and have been drinking ever since.
Cathy

Independence, KY

#34 Jul 16, 2012
Any program that helps a person stop abusing drugs and alcohol is a good thing. There are too many lives that are damaged by addiction. Whatever works needs to be considered.

Since: Jul 12

Nashville, TN

#35 Jul 25, 2012
Another top rated Drug treatment facility is http://www.asoberwayhome.org they saved my life.. not kidding.. very nice people
Dawn

Garner, NC

#36 May 17, 2013
First of all, I thought AA was very weird years ago BUT that has all changed. Any program that is spiritually based and recommends you to help people is NOT a cult. The disease of addiction is fierce and horrible, but I have met some incredible people who devote their lives to helping others. People in cults live there, work there, give them money, and leave those they love behind. People in AA, NA, CODA, etc. go to feel good and be with TRUE people.
Fraud

Saint Petersburg, FL

#39 Sep 1, 2013
I just talked to someone who was loaded up on psych meds real bad for that psych fraud label "bipolar" @ the recovery place !

PARENTS DON'T FALL FOR THE BIG PHARMA SCAM !!!

Parents are being mislead by a multi billion-dollar a year child drugging industry that a diagnoses of “mental disorder”(ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are medical diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No child has a brain scan, blood test, X-Ray or any evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are “ill” or “diseased.”

Yet psychiatrists continue to pound the public with misleading and fraudulent statements that these so called mental disorders are biochemical or neurological conditions…

It's just a way to put more people on prescription drugs !!

Childhood psychiatry CREATES addicts !
zzz

Lees Summit, MO

#40 Sep 1, 2013
Fraud wrote:
I just talked to someone who was loaded up on psych meds real bad for that psych fraud label "bipolar" @ the recovery place !
PARENTS DON'T FALL FOR THE BIG PHARMA SCAM !!!
Parents are being mislead by a multi billion-dollar a year child drugging industry that a diagnoses of “mental disorder”(ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are medical diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No child has a brain scan, blood test, X-Ray or any evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are “ill” or “diseased.”
Yet psychiatrists continue to pound the public with misleading and fraudulent statements that these so called mental disorders are biochemical or neurological conditions…
It's just a way to put more people on prescription drugs !!
Childhood psychiatry CREATES addicts !
From all that gibberish you sound like a addict for sure.You sound like you are hooked on stupid pills.Please seek help for your addiction,good luck in your recovery!!!!!!!
Fraud

Saint Petersburg, FL

#41 Sep 3, 2013
zzz wrote:
<quoted text>From all that gibberish you sound like a addict for sure.You sound like you are hooked on stupid pills.Please seek help for your addiction,good luck in your recovery!!!!!!!
Such a textbook med pusher reply to anyone who complains of harm by psychiatric medication or points out the fraud of biological psychiatry. It invalidates his views and so gets them out of the road of "psychiatric progress".

Just like when two little boys can’t agree on some vague point little boys disagree about, one or the other since caveman times has always tried to end the argument by saying:

“You’re crazy!”

The difference betwwen a medical disease and a psychiatric disorder
zzz

Lees Summit, MO

#42 Sep 3, 2013
Fraud wrote:
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Such a textbook med pusher reply to anyone who complains of harm by psychiatric medication or points out the fraud of biological psychiatry. It invalidates his views and so gets them out of the road of "psychiatric progress".
Just like when two little boys can’t agree on some vague point little boys disagree about, one or the other since caveman times has always tried to end the argument by saying:
“You’re crazy!”
The difference betwwen a medical disease and a psychiatric disorder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =n3JQ8OVHVWAXX
Im not a med pusher but i do enjoy pushing buttons and from the sounds of it i pushed yours pretty good.Don't feel bad people take the bait all the time!! Good Day~!~
cori

Risingsun, OH

#43 Jan 4, 2014
Did you go there? Still addicted? If nto, where are you getting your info. I want to know info from someone who's been there....
melissa

Fairborn, OH

#45 Feb 8, 2014
I was going to go to this center as a voluntary inpatient I was impressed that they would help with my flight from Ohio to Florida and bill me after treatment was completed, unfortunately it seems that with insurance approval it is a rush to get you there whether you have your loose ends tied up at home or not, it is very unfortunate some of the staff they have answering phones to make these arrangements are pushy and rude, I was going to fly down on a Monday and I decided I needed some time to tie up loose ends and that a Thursday flight would be the best for me (once they book the flight you are responsible for payment so making sure I could actually come on the day the flight was booked was important) as soon as I said Thursday would be best for me I was asked about Wednesday and why not come then and questioned as to why I wanted to extend things I realize as an addict they are afraid I will back out on them but keep in mind I VOLUNTARILY wanted to come to treatment. I gave a logical explanation why I felt it best to extend my arrival date to Thursday and was still being pushed for Wednesday why the hassle over one day I have no idea, then I said I needed the flight for Thursday evening so my ride could get off work and take me to the airport and I was told 9:30am is what was available I said I would try to make sure I could get a ride at that time...things are great then right? NOPE I was then pressured again to come before that and in a very rude manner...all of this made me feel as though I would arrive there and get what i get and treated however they saw fit and be stuck, if the man I was speaking with is who they have chosen to deal with new patients and the public who knows who you would encounter once you arrive at the facility thousands of miles from home, I told the person (don't think I can name names but it is a male and his name starts with a "T") I needed to rethink this plan because I felt I was being treated rudely and pressured, he began to defend himself and then just said fine and we hung up the phone from each other.
The point I'm getting at is that if a treatment center is legitimate they shouldn't need to employ pressure tactics to get you into treatment. Is it possible that the intake customer service people make some kind of commission off of patients they get admitted and therefore have a financial stake in your stay? Whatever the issue was even just a bad day on his part it is extremely unfortunate that I have to begin searching for a new facility, however, I am blessed to have private insurance that covers residential treatment and I'm confident I can find a treatment center willing to work with me and respect my needs and time frame.

Be leery very leery of this place like I said a legitimate place shouldn't need to employ any type of pressure tactics to get you admitted...also much of the stay including food is out of pocket and laundry is done at a pay facility in my opinion when a rehab is charging anywhere from one to three thousand dollars a day I shouldn't have to worry about where my next meal is coming from not to mention the added financial stress is not conducive to being able to solely focus on recovery, seems like a sober living set up but calling itself inpatient treatment BIG difference...good luck and keep trying there are many places out there don't let any treatment facility forget that you are paying them money and they should work to accommodate you NOT the other way around!!

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