Climate clippings 54

Climate clippings 54

There are 7 comments on the Larvatus Prodeo story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Climate clippings 54. In it, Larvatus Prodeo reports that:

The best wind farms in the world are already competitive with coal, gas and nuclear plants.

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NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#1 Nov 19, 2011
"Thatís according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance. They say that cost reduces by 7% for every doubling of installed capacity, while efficiency has steadily improved."

Yes. While fossil fuels are doubling and tripling in price, wind, geothermal and solar are continuing to become lower cost.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#2 Nov 19, 2011
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
"Thatís according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance. They say that cost reduces by 7% for every doubling of installed capacity, while efficiency has steadily improved."
Yes. While fossil fuels are doubling and tripling in price, wind, geothermal and solar are continuing to become lower cost.
In places with lots of dependable sunshine solar tea pot heaters like this one
http://i41.tinypic.com/2cbuoh.jpg
work very well. But they don't work when it's cloudy and they don't work at night.

There is a very long road to travel between tea pot heaters and energy dependence via solar or wind power.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#3 Nov 20, 2011
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
"Thatís according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance. They say that cost reduces by 7% for every doubling of installed capacity, while efficiency has steadily improved."
Now for your two cents worth:
NoFactAllHype wrote:
Yes. While fossil fuels are doubling and tripling in price, wind, geothermal and solar are continuing to become lower cost.
You really should engage your brain before posting, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#4 Nov 22, 2011
Of course as long as they receive more subsities per kwh than fossil fuels and nuclear. Take out the subsities and then wind becomes far more expensive than nuclear and coal. Of course it isn't more expensive than solar. That has the top spot.

All of which also ignores the fact that wind is at the mercy of the weather.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#5 Nov 22, 2011
tina anne wrote:
Of course as long as they receive more subsities per kwh than fossil fuels and nuclear.
There is no evidence that they even APPROACH the entrenched subsidies for coal and oil. The price of coal power for electicity is estimated to triple if subsidies on rail, mining, and health were removed. That puts the subsidies for coal much higher than any on solar, wind or nuclear.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#6 Nov 23, 2011
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
That CO2 cannot be a 'pollutant'? Wrong. Anything CAN and IS a pollutant in a specific context. In this case, as a greenhouse gas causing 'thermal pollution' of the planet.
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The point is really that the whole claim of 'CO2 is vital to life' and 'CO2 is plant food' promoted by Earthling is not so much that it is technically wrong, but that it is IRRELEVANT to the issue of CO2 as a 'thermal pollutant'. Agreed?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
Please confirm the accuracy of that post, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#7 Nov 25, 2011
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
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There is no evidence that they even APPROACH the entrenched subsidies for coal and oil. The price of coal power for electicity is estimated to triple if subsidies on rail, mining, and health were removed. That puts the subsidies for coal much higher than any on solar, wind or nuclear.
Actually there is and it is only a google away for those who wish to find it. And when you start comparing subsities on the kwh level and not the total on the check you find an entirely different picture.

But of course your really trying to hide the fact that renewables receive far more.

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