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Carrollton Free Press Standard Letters to the Editor | Don Nocera

There are 44 comments on the Carrollton Free Press Standard story from Sep 19, 2012, titled Carrollton Free Press Standard Letters to the Editor | Don Nocera. In it, Carrollton Free Press Standard reports that:

To The Editor: Let me start by refreshing your mind that during Christmas 2010 at our White House Obama had a tree ornament of Karl Marx's hanging on a Christmas tree.

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Kevin Brantch

Marion, OH

#25 Sep 21, 2012
Okay, I've read enough ignorance for a lifetime in the past three minutes. In regard to Islam, it is no more a "religious cult" than any other established religion, christianity included. Now, there are extreme sects of Islam much like extreme sects of christianity (The KKK opposed any non christian, non-white, foreigner).
Now, as for the President. Who cares if he is muslim? As I'm constantly reminded, this country was founded on a principal of religious freedom. That does not mean freedom for only Judeo-Christian religions, but for any religion you care to follow.
My Mom's Son, when you write "the African nations found oil in their backyard.....got greedy, etc." How exactly do you think Texas was built? That's also how the free market works, supply and demand. Also, please don't say "sand land nations" anymore, frankly it sounds like a Super Mario Bros. world and comes across both racist and ignorant. Cheers.
Randy Miller, that's not how affirmative action works. Statistically an african american, even though he may have identical qualifications as a white man is less likely to receive the job. Affirmative action is in place to make sure a company is not picking workers based on race.
Yes, historically the ideals of the parties were different, the democrats of the south were very pro-slavery, while the republicans fought to end it (which was a fairly liberal idea at the time), however, times change.
unknown

Dover, OH

#26 Sep 21, 2012
Islam is the only religion that says you must submit to it or die.

Qur’an:9:5 -“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Randy Miller

Uhrichsville, OH

#27 Sep 21, 2012
I live in the real world Kevin. I'm 64 now and I have seen, over the last 30 years, how affirmative action has gone too far. I have witnessed minorities, less qualified, be promoted, hired, or admitted to schools over more qualified. So these businesses, schools and other entities have gone the other way. Now how long do you want this to go on? We've received equality they intended.
Zach DeNardi

Chicago, IL

#28 Sep 21, 2012
unknown wrote:
Islam is the only religion that says you must submit to it or die.
Qur’an:9:5 -“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Should I post the crazy bible versus there are?

"Say,'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)

"Say:'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).(The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

"Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine.(The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)"

Time for the bible!

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses:'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

Look! I can play pick and chose too!
Kevin Brantch

Marion, OH

#29 Sep 21, 2012
unknown wrote:
Islam is the only religion that says you must submit to it or die.
Qur’an:9:5 -“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Really? The only religion? You've obviously never read the Old Testament.
Emily

United States

#30 Sep 22, 2012
The racism is strong in this one...honestly if some of you can see how much you contradict yourselves. How high are your horses? Can any of you do better as POTUS? Would your history even allow you to get elected? Do you even have the educational qualifications for running a country?
Emily

United States

#31 Sep 22, 2012
unknown wrote:
Islam is the only religion that says you must submit to it or die.
Qur’an:9:5 -“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

I suppose Christian Crusaders were just handing out ice cream to all the little pagan babies...
Emily

United States

#32 Sep 22, 2012
In all honesty why does FPS put up a disclaimer about racist/sexist/hateful comments when they post those kinds of letters to begin with? Idiots.
unknown

Dover, OH

#33 Sep 22, 2012
Please show where, in context, the Old or New Testament says to force someone to become Christian or Jewish or else die.

You kids should see what is happening in the middle east. Of course I'm sure the few hundred thousand participating are only the radical fringe.
Zach DeNardi

Chicago, IL

#34 Sep 22, 2012
unknown wrote:
Please show where, in context, the Old or New Testament says to force someone to become Christian or Jewish or else die.
You kids should see what is happening in the middle east. Of course I'm sure the few hundred thousand participating are only the radical fringe.
...Have you listened to History? Do you know what the crusades are?
Zach DeNardi

Chicago, IL

#35 Sep 22, 2012
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Here is some highlighted areas

http://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/deut/13.6-10...

...And I had some above?
unknown

Dover, OH

#36 Sep 22, 2012
I have read the above post and the link and still don't see where it says you must convert or die. Remember, I didn't say killing for any other reason. What I read says if someone tries to turn me or my family from God to another god, then I may kill them.
I will not sumbit to allah. My God has given me freewill to love him or not. My choice, not submission. Yes, I believe anyone who denies God will be doomed, but that will be between him and God not me.
As for the Crusades I really don't know all of the reasons for them, but it wasn't submission.
I can appriciate a good debate, but there is no way I can be swayed, and I don't have time to go into the whole Isaac and Ishmael thing.
Kevin Brantch

Marion, OH

#37 Sep 22, 2012
Okay, you don't understand the crusades. How about the Spanish inquisition? Forced conversion of native americans? The "convert or die" mindset is written in blood throughout history.
Zach DeNardi

Chicago, IL

#38 Sep 22, 2012
The bible also says a lot of crazy other things, are you saying that you believe in all of that as well?

Also, the Quaran also has messages of peace, it hasjust as many mixed messages as the bible.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.(The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).(The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them).(The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"

Say:'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).(The Noble Quran, 24:54)"
Zach DeNardi

Chicago, IL

#39 Sep 22, 2012
Truth is, You can't sit here and tell me that Christianity has more or less flaws than Islam. They are both flawed, they both have questionable passages, and they both have radical groups that give both a bad name.

The problem, that some people seem to be following, is that they are judging people, such as President Obama, for being a "muslim", when in all reality it shouldn't matter.

I believe the bible has multiple verses on not judging a man, and loving all people does it not?

So, are you judging the president, be he a muslim or not? And do you not love this man as a brother?

Alas alas for you.
Kevin Brantch

Marion, OH

#40 Sep 22, 2012
^This.
Question

Ashley, OH

#41 Sep 23, 2012
Is all of this unrestrained, and at times ridiculous debate, show what is good about America, or what is bad?
Answer

Berea, OH

#42 Sep 23, 2012
Question wrote:
Is all of this unrestrained, and at times ridiculous debate, show what is good about America, or what is bad?
It shows both good and bad. The good part is us Americans wanting to save our Country and the bad part is the foreigners that want to take it over to make their religion and their ways the majority here.
Kevin Brantch

Marion, OH

#43 Sep 23, 2012
Answer wrote:
<quoted text>
It shows both good and bad. The good part is us Americans wanting to save our Country and the bad part is the foreigners that want to take it over to make their religion and their ways the majority here.
Yeah, the Native Americans know all about that, you should ask them! Oh, wait....most of them died from foreigners taking over their country and "their ways the majority here."
America used to be known as the melting pot, but I don't know if that moniker is appropriate anymore.
An American

Dover, OH

#44 Sep 23, 2012
The Native Indians. Have casinos now and making a killing. Those that don't most live in squalor. Why is that Kevin? The government pays each an income to stay on the reservation. They have government housing also. Sounds like a socialist society and they don't work. Why? Because there is no incentive. I didn't mention the drug and alcohol abuse is ramp id.
How do I know? My wife has relatives who live on a reservation. We've seen it.

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