Mr. Petrey will be making NO decision. How ignorant are you? He will do as the board tells him, its in his contract.<quoted text>
Burning Question Now is NOT "who waived the fees."
Our former school administrators Baker/Lolli/Long waived the fees; but did not put the waiver in writing.
Now it appears that Long threw our kids under the bus again by making a deal on the Wade field project "waiving all useage fees" for fifteen years in favor of a one time donation.
The SYB official on the board meeting TV broadcast sounds like that's the kind of sweet deal he wants to "cook up" with our current superintendent. Isn't that what all his arguments are--that the SYB should be allowed to give "an offering" here and there in exchange for the superintendient's waiver of the facilities use fees?
Now the burning question is: Will our current superintendent, Mr. Todd Petrey, choose to waive the fees (no doubt in written form this time in compliance with board policy 7310) and continue doing business as usual with the self-interest Springboro Youth Basketball association; OR ...
Will Mr. Petrey make his decision in the best interest of our school children and community taxpayers?... and move forward by charging fees to all outside organizations that use our taxpayers-funded public school facilities on Saturdays, and all times other than our regularly scheduled hours during school days.
#22075 Sep 23, 2012
#22076 Sep 23, 2012
Or on the other hand, he could have a mind of his own and knows what is right. And it sounds like he doesn't enjoy being blatantly scammed.
#22077 Sep 23, 2012
A rough calculation of the fee schedule from Policy 7510 applied.
Each team constitutes one group.
72 Saturday teams = 36 games/ week for 8 weeks = 288 x 2 = 576 groups
72 Saturday teams have 4 practices each = 288 practices
22 Select teams play 11 games at home each = 244 games x 2 groups = 488
22 Select teams have 2 practices per week for 15 weeks = 660 practices
Practices and Games at Dennis/Five Points
322 groups for games
330 groups for practices
652 groups total for practices and games x $15/group =$9780
Practices and Games at Intermediate
166 groups for games
330 groups for practices
496 groups total for practices and games x $10/group =$4960
Total for Select
$9780 +$4960 =$14,740
Practices for Saturday Rec League
192 groups for Dennis x $15/group =$2880
96 groups for Clearcreek x $10/group =$960
Games at Dennis
384 groups x $15/group =$5760
Games at Clearcreek
192 groups x $10/group =$1920
Total for Saturday Basketball
$5760 +$1920 =$7680
Total for Select and Saturday Basketball
$14,740 +$7680 =$22,420
$22,420 x 4 years =$89,680
#22078 Sep 23, 2012
Let me guess...bitter teacher who now has to be accountable instead of having everything handed to you?
#22079 Sep 24, 2012
like Rhett Butler said in the classic movie "Gone with the Wind"
Frankly my dear..........
But if you had noticed, Just Watching posted another very informative post on how much these fees that were waived add up to.
#22080 Sep 24, 2012
The Springboro Youth Basketball official has now broadcast to Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners that he does not give a "rhett butler" about "doing what's right" for our school children and community as a whole; Clearly,the SYB just wants the new school district administrators to continue doing "business as usual" the Baker/Lolli/Long/Holtrey/Creag er illegal and unethical way. Excuse Me, but the arrogant on-camera performance by the SYB official was NO classic; but, just another one of the continuous reruns of "The Scamming." Show is now over for SYB; Time to pay up and enter a new season of "Where is Accountability?"
#22081 Sep 24, 2012
Springboro Youth Basketball owes the taxpayers of this community roughly $89,000 for the FOUR years they used the taxpayer funded facilities.
From 2008-2009 through 2011-2012 they paid nothing for usage fees.
During the same time frame they sold back to the taxpayers who built the gyms the usage of the gyms.
SYB sold that back to the taxpayer to the tune of $300,000 plus for those FOUR years.
The good news is they did replace some basketball rims and grease the adjusting height mechanisms on the baskets at Dennis and Five Points. So technically they did give back, just not very much.
What was the reason for the overcharging on fees?
#22082 Sep 24, 2012
#22083 Sep 24, 2012
Thank you for "just watching!" Great news worth repeating! District Taxpayers are due $89,000 from SYB! Does "just watching see a way" to hold SYB financially accountable for their debt to school district taxpayers?
#22084 Sep 24, 2012
Sounds like a great new beginning for our children's future!
It's never too late for Springboro to become what it could have been! It doesn't take more money; it takes accountability.
#22085 Sep 24, 2012
Send them the bill they have been waiting on for these past FOUR years. SYB has the money, the fees have been collected for FOUR years from the parents and are now in the bank.
No other organization demands so much time and space or has a greater impact on our facilities than Springboro Youth Basketball.
#22086 Sep 24, 2012
Didnt madden acknowledge earlier in the meeting that he had in fact heard of the waiver given to syb? By the way, usage fees were paid in 08-09. As explained, with documentation, by the syb treasurer, before kohls cut you off.
#22087 Sep 24, 2012
I listened to Madden tell about an offhand comment from George Long from about a month ago. Madden didn't stick his neck out and say that he was privy to any of this in 2008.
I watched it twice and there was no documentation I saw presented by anyone, just a guy talking making claims that he could not verify. Hard to believe that everybody else had to pay, but these guys didn't.
I wonder about all those people who demanded everybody else pass levies. Why are they now the ones sitting there trying to keep money collected from the taxpaying parents instead of putting it back into the schools.
#22088 Sep 24, 2012
Doesn't sound like money was celebrating as a read it....just stating facts. Something many on this blog don't care to recognize. And just for morbid curiosity, I went onto the auditors site and pulled up three random properties in the township......all showed a decrease in property taxes each year from 2007-2010. They did go up in 2011 as money stated. Looks like they went back up to roughly the same level as 2009.
#22089 Sep 24, 2012
Sorry, but I do not believe the building fees were paid. Looking through the district's financial records on their website, I see very few entries for 07 or 08 booked as receipts for building fees. The ones that are booked are only for one hour at $25 per hour, which doesn't seem right, and at most, once a month there are 10 or so receipts in a row, but only $25 each.
Maybe I am not seeing them, but the receipts that are there are in fund 001, code 1810.
For example, for 12/10/2008, there are four in a row, each for $112.50 and the description is building fee - cafe & gym.
March 2007, I found $2525.00 in building fees.
November 2007,$300 in building fees.
January 2008,$200 in building fees.
None in February or March of 2008.
April 2008,$350 in building fees.
May 2008 $873 in custodial and building fees.
June 2008 $200 in building fees.
And, from these records, you can't tell who was paying for the use of the buildings. It could have been a different group, especially since most of the fees are for one hour.
I hope there are more, but I doubt it. If the SYB really did pay, they should show up with their receipts or cancelled checks at the next Board meeting.
As far as waiting for an invoice, the SYB knew that they owed the money to the school. Not that Dettwiller shouldn't have sent an invoice or done some kind of follow up. His kids were probably in the SYB at some point in time.
The current Treasurer Should be able to runa list by fund and function doer the last ten years.
#22090 Sep 24, 2012
The president of SYB has all the answers, even if he has to make them up on the spot. Trouble with spreading the truth pretty thin is that you can't always remember where you spread it thick and where you spread it thin. Who did I tell what to when? Dangerous stuff, makes people seem less than trustworthy when the story changes every other day.
Surprised to hear of all the people the president says are mistaken in what they heard; the board, the superintendent, SYB's own treasurer, people in the community. Why isn't Baker, Lolli, Long, Holtrey, or Creagher coming up in front of the cameras to vouch for what this guy is saying? He said they were all part of the give away.
These board meetings aren't as dry as I thought.
#22091 Sep 24, 2012
what ward you live in?
#22092 Sep 24, 2012
If they have the $120,000 or so in the bank, they didn't get that by collecting cans to take to the recycler. What is the big deal about paying what you owe?
Everybody knows you collected the money, why don't you pay the bill? SYB would still have $30,000 or so in the bank, how much money do they need to run this?
#22093 Sep 24, 2012
the money is circled round and round the school/city/township/county and the taxpayer never gets a break.
No school levy was passed in 2011;
but the Springboro Youth Basketball Assoiation has been cheating district taxpayers out of fees for facilities use now for several years;
AND our property taxes increased in 2012 because the County MRDD slapped a big tax increase on overburdened homeowners to send money to Springboro Schools;
then the city/township government double dipped into homeowners' pockets again to "donate" our hard earned tax dollars to the Wade Field project;
Now Mr. Wade tells Clearcreek township homeowners that the tax holiday (due taxpayers because of a $14 million surplus) would mean such as small amount for each homeowner; that he feels that the GOVERNMENT can better spend our money!
Clearcreek Township Trustee Jason Gabbard should vote to honor this tax holiday giving taxpayers back money that is overtaxed. And Mr. Gabbard should use his influence with the Springboro Youth Basketball Association to make sure the SYB pays up the money owed to school district taxpayers for using school facilites.
#22094 Sep 24, 2012
What if they haven't been paying it for longer than four years? Go look at the 03-04 year. I can not find any deposits there for building fees, janitor fees or camp fees.
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