Bishop Cullen deserves respect

Bishop Cullen deserves respect

There are 732 comments on the The Morning Call story from Sep 1, 2008, titled Bishop Cullen deserves respect. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Anyone who is a member of a church or parish for many years, knows how difficult it is when a parish must be closed.

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CatholicCath

Kingston, PA

#66 Sep 2, 2008
Hunkie wrote:
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Nobody wants to see the Diocese suffer more than it already has.... Still, it will take some good faith move from Allentown to show they are prepared to sit at the table. We may not be there yet -- only Allentown can say.
My best guess would be the dio will come to the table ONLY if it is in their self-centered interests.
CatholicCath

Kingston, PA

#67 Sep 2, 2008
Amazed wrote:
There is a paradox here:
If there were more young men like John Ryan, there would be less need to close parishes.
If there were less childish whiners, we would have a better Church!
I agree with the party of the first part. This young seminarian will be a fine priest. We hope he can dodge all the corruptive influences he most certainly will face. However, you must understand that what you are reading here is not childish whining, but a mature and God-given seeking of justice from an intolerable process and a raw exercise of power without reason or cause. I hope you can begin to recognize the difference.
Richard from Seipsvile

Hyattsville, MD

#68 Sep 2, 2008
Cut off ALL FUNDS to the diocese. Let the snake starve. If they want to negotiate a redo of synod that is fine. Otherwise the he## with them.

NO MONEY TO THE CHURCH.....WE WORSHIP ON 5TH STREET
CatholicCath

Kingston, PA

#69 Sep 2, 2008
Richard from Seipsvile wrote:
My suggestion is that the Dio make an attempt to SETTLE this and revisit the synod decisions. Once the next round of disclosures occur, I am believe that the matter will escalate beyond a resolution. A cool and reasonable person, such as perhaps a Father Baker, needs to play an active role. Any opinions on this thought?
Any cool, reasonable, and courageous pastor is welcome to mediate this mess. It CANNOT be, however, a red-buttoned one who BETRAYED, bullied and hoodwinked the faithful into this horrendously tragic situation we now find ourselves.
CatholicCath

Kingston, PA

#70 Sep 2, 2008
http://www.opusbono.org/casenews/Closedchurch...
For those who missed the "hot properties" opinion piece.
It sickens me to have our beloved parishes thus referenced: "hot properties." Respect that?
CatholicCath

Kingston, PA

#71 Sep 2, 2008
“How much I must criticize you, my Church, and yet how much I love you! You have made me suffer more than anyone, and yet I owe more to you than anyone. I should like to see you destroyed, and yet I need your presence. You have given me much scandal, and yet you alone have made me understand holiness. Never in the world have I seen anything more compromised, more false, yet never have I touched anything more pure, more generous, or more beautiful. Countless times I have felt like leaving you, my Church; and yet every night I have prayed that I might die in your warm loving arms......" Carlo Caretto, a member of the Little Brothers of Jesus of Charles de Foucauld who died in 1988.
Amen! The gates of hell shall not prevail, nor the corruption within any diocese.
Richard from Seipsvile

Hyattsville, MD

#72 Sep 2, 2008
We have adapted to the immoral treatment of our diocesan clergy

OUR CHURCH IS 5TH STREET.......STARVE THE NO GOOD FIENDS IN THE DIO
CatholicCath

Kingston, PA

#73 Sep 2, 2008
As the revelations of abuse have become public it has become increasingly clear that almost all the victims are adolescent males, not prepubescent boys. The problem of priests with same-sex attractions (SSA) molesting adolescents or children must be addressed if future scandals are to be avoided.

In treating priests who have engaged in pedophilia and ephebophilia we have observed that these men almost without exception suffered from a denial of sin in their lives. They were unwilling to admit and address the profound emotional pain they experienced in childhood of loneliness, often in the father relationship, peer rejection, lack of male confidence, poor body image, sadness, and anger. This anger, which originated most often from disappointments and hurts with their peers and/or fathers, was often directed toward the Church, the Holy Father, and the religious authorities. Rejecting the Church's teachings on sexual morality, these men for the most part adopted the utilitarian sexual ethic which the Holy Father so brilliantly critiqued in his book, Love and Responsibility. They came to see their own pleasure as the highest end and used others - including adolescents and children - as sexual objects. They consistently refused to examine their consciences, to accept the Church's teachings on moral issues as a guide for their personal actions, or regularly avail themselves of the sacrament of penance. These priests either refused to seek spiritual direction or choose a spiritual director or confessor who openly rebelled against Church teachings on sexuality. Tragically, these mistakes allowed these men to justify their behaviors.
Letter to the Bishops
by the Catholic Medical Association Task Force
a list

Kingston, PA

#74 Sep 2, 2008
MONSIGNORI OF THE DIOCESE OF ALLENTOWN
1. AUCHTER, Rev. Msgr. John A.
2. BADDICK, Rev. Msgr. Thomas D.
3. BAKER, Rev. Msgr. Andrew R.
4. BAKER, Rev. Msgr. William T.
5. BARRETT, Rev. Msgr. Francis X.
6. BARTKUS, Rev. Msgr. Algimantas A.
7. BAVER, Rev. Msgr. William F.
8. BENESTAD, Rev. Msgr. Thomas J.
9. BIRCH, Rev. Msgr. Thomas J.
10. BISZEK, Rev. Msgr. Robert J.
11. BOCIAN, Rev. Msgr. Ronald C.
12. BUKATY, Rev. Msgr. Lawrence J.
13. BYRNE, Rev. Msgr. Albert J.
14. CALLAGHAN, Rev. Msgr. Aloysius R.
15. CAMPBELL, Rev. Msgr. John S.
16. CHABACK, Rev. Msgr. Michael J.
17. CHIZMAR, Rev. Msgr. John G.
18. COLL, Rev. Msgr. Robert J.
19. COYLE, Rev. Msgr. Edward J.
20. della PICCA, Rev. Msgr. Paul B.
21. DERZACK, Rev. Msgr. Thomas A.
22. DeSANTIS, Rev. Msgr. Joseph A.
23. DOMIN, Rev. Msgr. Edward R.
24. DOOLEY, Rev. Msgr. Joseph P.
25. FINELLI, Rev. Msgr. Victor F.
26. FLANAGAN, Rev. Msgr. Bernard A.
27. FORST, Rev. Msgr. Robert M.
28. GLOSSER, Rev. Msgr. William F.
29. GOBITAS, Rev. Msgr. Gerald E.
30. GRABISH, Rev. Msgr. John J.
31. HANDGES, Rev. Msgr. William E.
32. HARTGEN, Rev. Msgr. Dennis T.
33. HOBAN, Rev. Msgr. Thomas E.
34. JAMES, Rev. Msgr. David L. 35. KLINGER, Rev. Msgr. Nevin J.
36. KOONS, Rev. Msgr. Thomas P.
37. KOZEL, Rev. Msgr. Robert F.
38. LOEPER, Rev. Msgr. Richard J.
39. LOSITO, Rev. Msgr. Felix A.
40. MARTIN, Rev. Msgr. John J.
41. McCANN, Rev. Msgr. John B.
42. MERMAN, Rev. Msgr. Raymond F.
43. MORRISON, Rev. Msgr. David J.
44. MRAZ, Rev. Msgr. John S.
45. MULLIGAN, Rev. Msgr. James J.
46. MUNTONE, Rev. Msgr. Anthony D.
47. MURPHY, Rev. Msgr. John P.
48. NAVE, Rev. Msgr. Francis A.
49. O'CONNOR, Rev. Msgr. Edward J.
50. ORSULAK, Rev. Msgr. Thomas J.
51. OTT, Rev. Msgr. Alfred R.
52. RADOCHA, Rev. Msgr. Stephen J.
53. REICHERT, Rev. Msgr. James J.
54. RIGNEY, Rev. Msgr. Dennis A.
55. RONO, Rev. Msgr. Voltaire
56. RUSEK, Rev. Msgr. John A.
57. SACKS, Rev. Msgr. Edward R.
58. SARZYNSKI, Rev. Msgr. Edward W.
59. SCHEAFFER, Rev. Msgr. Walter T.
60. SCHLERT, Rev. Msgr. Alfred A.
61. SMITH, Rev. Msgr. Joseph P. T.
62. SOBIESIAK, Rev. Msgr. Joseph R.
63. TRESTON, Rev. Msgr. James A.
64. WARGO, Rev. Msgr. Robert J.
65. WASSEL, Rev. Msgr. Anthony F.
66. YENUSHOSKY, Rev. Msgr. Daniel J.
67. YORK, Rev. Msgr. Vincent P.
68. ZEMANIK, Rev. Msgr. Edward S.
stjos/stfds:04.06.2008 - 05
This may be the most monsignori ever in any diocese. Check it out!
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Starve the beast

Englishtown, NJ

#75 Sep 2, 2008
There is life after Catholicism people! I left the Church 14 years ago and joined a UCC Church.

No church is perfect, but the hypocracy, politics, pompasity, and self-rightenous of the Catholic Church drove me away.

These closings, scandals, and ignoring vows (celebacy, poverty) should come as a shock to noone.

Leave the Catholic faith, you'll feel better about God and yourself!
Richard from Seipsvile

Hyattsville, MD

#76 Sep 2, 2008
God!!!! And the HAVE NO PRIESTS! Perhaps they are all monsignori!

ST. JOSEPH PARISHIONERS.....WHEN YOU PASS OUR LOCKED CHURCH----SAY A PRAYER ON 5TH STREET...CULLEN CANT STOP THAT.....
clarification

United States

#77 Sep 2, 2008
Amazed wrote:
There is a paradox here:
If there were more young men like John Ryan, there would be less need to close parishes.
If there were less childish whiners, we would have a better Church!
Hey amazed,

You'd do better to stop the name calling and refocus on the issues. Creating a smoke screen or sideshows does not detract from the un-Christian actions of this supposed servant of God.

Let the facts speak for themselves, and spend your time discussing the facts, not making up names to try to quiet those who are shining light on the injustice.
love the Roman Church

Kingston, PA

#78 Sep 2, 2008
Starve the beast wrote:
There is life after Catholicism people! I left the Church 14 years ago and joined a UCC Church.
No church is perfect, but the hypocracy, politics, pompasity, and self-rightenous of the Catholic Church drove me away.
These closings, scandals, and ignoring vows (celebacy, poverty) should come as a shock to noone.
Leave the Catholic faith, you'll feel better about God and yourself!
When you love someone, do you walk away when illness strikes-or do you hang in there and prepare for battle?
Notorious Deuce Dropper

Scranton, PA

#79 Sep 2, 2008
There is a simple solution to all of these issues -

REMOVE THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS OF THE CHURCH!

Funny how if you believe in a fairy tale and call it a religion, it makes you tax exempt...
Jesus lover

AOL

#81 Sep 2, 2008
I was wondering ...where did you people go to libel someone, before this website was available?
love the Roman Church

Kingston, PA

#82 Sep 2, 2008
Jesus lover wrote:
I was wondering ...where did you people go to libel someone, before this website was available?
dunno. question for you: how did YOU end up here?
Richard from Seipsvile

Hyattsville, MD

#83 Sep 2, 2008
Allentown, Pa. BISHOP EDWARD CULLEN
Until February, he let four priests work despite decades-old allegations, which were detailed in their personnel files, that they had sexually abused children. He dismissed the men as the Boston clergy scandal brought pressure on dioceses nationwide to reassess their handling of molestation cases. Bishop Cullen initially refused to tell a prosecutor the priests' names or the parishes they served because, he said, the statute of limitations had expired. He relented in May, when four other prosecutors joined the call for disclosure.
Richard from Seipsvile

Hyattsville, MD

#84 Sep 2, 2008
Type of mass allowed in allentown dio-----while we the parishoners are DENIED A MASS by cullen and james to pray for our church.
http://www.dignitypalmbeach.org/pa.html
WE WILL PRAY ON 5TH STREET BECAUSE WE ARE LOCKED FROM OUR CHURCH
clarification

United States

#85 Sep 2, 2008
Jesus lover wrote:
I was wondering ...where did you people go to libel someone, before this website was available?
Sweetheart,

stick to the facts. It is not libel if it is true, and, hey sweetheart, open your eyes, read the facts. Use the brain the good Lord gave you, wipe the cobwebs out of your eyes, and see.
No Choice

Tremont, PA

#86 Sep 2, 2008
If you don't like the truth being told, then get off the site.

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