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Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

There are 113747 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 12, 2007, titled Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Anticipating autumn's bounty of cooler weather, glorious sunshine and majestic foliage also brings sadness to my heart, knowing the suffering about to be inflicted by Maryland's bow hunters on our deer starting ...

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“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173693 Dec 28, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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It is a simple respect for the dead. The dead who gave their very lives so that I could live.
GREAT post AQ. Thanks for taking the time !
There's always something to learn from you :)

There's also the aspect of respect for life. One of the reasons why I don't fish unless I'm apt to eat or feed others with what is caught. But that's my view that isn't getting jammed down anyone's throat.

IMO pride in doing ANYTHING the right way is okay.

You hunted for 18 years before getting an elk. Obviously being very good at whatever you do is important. Sounds like persistence in pursuing perfection.

Instilling that viewpoint in younger folks is an accomplishment :)

"proud of his accomplishments" got 1.25 Million hits on google.
"proud of her accomplishments" gets 1.3 million
"proud of my accomplishments" gets 775k

I think it is safe to say that MANY kids are looking for respect and acknowledgment of their achievements.

"take pride in your work" gets 2.6M hits.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173694 Dec 28, 2012
peteoo wrote:
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GREAT post AQ. Thanks for taking the time !
There's always something to learn from you :)
I agree!

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#173695 Dec 28, 2012
peteoo wrote:
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Apparently someone thinks my definition was mean...
"I think of arrogance as my way is the best way and only way."
What do you think ecoangel?
Anyone that say they need to "kill" to "feel life"
has a serious mental problem.
Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#173696 Dec 28, 2012
EcoAngel wrote:
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Anyone that say they need to "kill" to "feel life"
has a serious mental problem.
HSUS Vegan is that you? If it is you havenít stopped us from hunting and never will, howís that Karma for you?(Even if itís not you wonít stop us from hunting either). You been out skulking around in the dark sabotaging tree stands this year? Yak at you later I need to get my hunting gear ready for tonights camping/ hunting trip.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173697 Dec 28, 2012
EcoAngel wrote:
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Some of these quotes from hunters would be laughable if they weren't so sick. You feel life when you kill ???
If you need to "feel life" by killing a defenseless animal then
there is something seriously wrong with your gray matter.
If you say so, but then what you say has no effect on my life circle maam.

Perhaps you could benefit from an educaton by the grandmothers. Your life experience would be a much more enjoyable one if you embraced the circle of life, instead of your chosen path, which is to hate those whom disagree with you.
You have no real life experience in the nature of how Mother Nature lives. Her rules say that all life dies, and all life is sustained by others dying.
What you have maam, is a life, as it relates to the outside world, which is merely you thinking about what life must be like on the outside of your condo, and deciding how it is from afar.

Please avoid judging me until you have walked in my steps maam.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173698 Dec 28, 2012
EcoAngel wrote:
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Anyone that say they need to "kill" to "feel life"
has a serious mental problem.
What you post maam, is your own words which you try to make mine. Your words maam, carry your intent to slander me.

My words carry iron, and are as true as I can make them, so that the hope of you grasping where I am coming from, will be successful, and we truly do achieve effective communication between us.
My words are simply this:

All humans need to kill in order to remain with "life".

You try to imply maam, that I am seeking a release of some sort when I kill to live, that is akin to a full body adrenaline type rush that you may, hopefully, experience if your mate and you achieve climax during coitus.

If I felt the same energy when I kill to live, that I feel when achieving one of the pinnicles of the human emotional and physical experience on Earth which I described above - I would refrain from sexual intercourse for the remainder of my days, and the mere thought of making love would be repulsive to me.
I did not puke the first time I had sex maam. Did you?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#173699 Dec 29, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
that is akin to a full body adrenaline type rush that you may, hopefully, experience if your mate and you achieve climax during coitus.
I did not puke the first time I had sex maam. Did you?
Leave it to one of these arrogant lunkheads to make an analogy using sex. What a shocking development.
Athough they do tend to think with the little head rather than the big head, which is why they are hunters in the first place.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173700 Dec 29, 2012
EcoAngel wrote:
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Leave it to one of these arrogant lunkheads to make an analogy using sex. What a shocking development.
Athough they do tend to think with the little head rather than the big head, which is why they are hunters in the first place.
If ^that^ is what you gleaned from my words maam, then I can only say that I hope someone teaches you how to read and understand what is written.

You can have all the dillusional dreams you wish. Your dreams do not effect my life circle maam.

I tried to comunicate with you.
You refuse, but more than that maam, you intentionally distort my words, and prefer to attack me personally instead.

We're done here.
Have a great day maam.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173701 Dec 29, 2012
EcoAngel wrote:
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Leave it to one of these arrogant lunkheads to make an analogy using sex. What a shocking development.
Athough they do tend to think with the little head rather than the big head, which is why they are hunters in the first place.
Before I go however, I would like to point out that the ASPCA has lost the lawsuit brought against them by Barnum and Bailey. The courts have directed the ASPCA to pay the company and the families of Barnum and Bailey Circuses,$9.3 MILLION in restitution and for defamation.
Deformation is what you attempt against me maam. That reflects more negative on you than me, as your slander is merely your lie maam.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/aspca-pays-9...

The lawsuits against HSUS and other defendants is still being considered. From what I have read elsewhere on the matter, the HSUS and the other defendants will lose as well.

That being said, I would also point out that the number of hunters is increasing of late, and the largest and fastest growing group in those increasing hunter numbers, are women maam.

The times are changing to be sure. Your material is out of date, as it relates to and depicts another time in the past, and the pendulum has moved to the other "side" maam.

Please reconsider your stance, clenched teeth, and crossed arms, and learn real communication and understanding of your fellow man to be more important than your irrational hate of those you fail to understand.
I would send you a pair of my moccasins so you could walk in them for a bit, but I fear they would be too large for you, and they would hurt your head maam.

The real sad part is that not only do you fail to understand, you refuse to even attempt it.
That is the trademark of the eventual loser in any battle of life in this dimension maam.

I understand where you are coming from as I have been there on this matter. I am not asking you to join me, as your life is your own and therefore so is your decison to live as you see fit. I am asking you to respect me maam.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173702 Dec 29, 2012
peteoo wrote:
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GREAT post AQ. Thanks for taking the time !
There's always something to learn from you :)
There's also the aspect of respect for life. One of the reasons why I don't fish unless I'm apt to eat or feed others with what is caught. But that's my view that isn't getting jammed down anyone's throat.
IMO pride in doing ANYTHING the right way is okay.
You hunted for 18 years before getting an elk. Obviously being very good at whatever you do is important. Sounds like persistence in pursuing perfection.
Instilling that viewpoint in younger folks is an accomplishment :)
"proud of his accomplishments" got 1.25 Million hits on google.
"proud of her accomplishments" gets 1.3 million
"proud of my accomplishments" gets 775k
I think it is safe to say that MANY kids are looking for respect and acknowledgment of their achievements.
"take pride in your work" gets 2.6M hits.
I guess it is just that I make an intentional separation between pride and pleasure.

I see it as being pleased and happy with one's accomplishments is much different than being "proud" of them. I see pride, as when the pleasure and happiness of one's accomplishments has been taken too far and it becomes a weapon of sorts against another as it implies that old "I'm better than you" conundrum.

It seems to me that pride is a negative, whilst it is perfectly fine to feel pleasure and happiness in life.

Yes, I know. What's in a word eh. I hear your meaning, and it is the same as mine I suspect.

Happy New Year Pete.

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173704 Dec 29, 2012
Just wanted to take a moment and say hello to everyone and wish everybody a Happy New Year.

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173705 Dec 29, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
I studied plants so I could be a better gardener, but more than that, I studied them to see if science agreed with the grandfathers when they said the one leggeds are relatives too.
I learned that they are.
I learned that plants have simple brains, and intentional movements, as thier root ends seek out nutrients and avoided obstacles. I learned that some scientists say that carrots scream when they are pulled from thier mother's womb. I tried to hear them scream, but learned that I can not hear it. I learned that there are things that happen even though I am incapable of using my five senses to know about it.
The grandfathers showed me how to listen with my inner ears and see with my inner eyes. They taught me how to use my innate sixth sense, so that I could hear their screams, and know that their screams were real. I learned that I must become open to possibly instead of what I perceived as impossibility.
I learned that death is part of life and there is no death without life and there is no life without death.
I discovered that since death is a part of life, that there must be an acceptable place for it in my dimension and life, and it would be a healthy thing for me to embrace it - if I could.
Someone who understood my plight, and was familiar with the circle of life, took me elk hunting. I had been elk hunting for 18 seasons before I layed down my weapons, and my "journey" began in earnest, but, I had never killed an elk - in 18 years of supposedly trying to do so.
He showed me how to respect the elk, and make sure that they too get the "burial ceremony" that all living things, deserve. They are our relatives. They give up their lives for us to live.
The dead are deserving of respect, even if they have a much different physical appearance than we humans.
He showed me how to give something back to the Earth as I had just taken from her bounty, and he showed me that death is a trade transaction, not a finite ultimatum, and that it is OK, to kill and eat, as it is the only way we can live.
He, with the help of others in my "village" showed me a way to live, that I could live with.
The irony, since human life is pure irony in many ways, is that the one who showed me the path back, is also the one who I took on his first deer hunt nigh on 50 years ago now.
It is not pride that I feel when I kill, it is life.
It is not an avoidance of my accomplishments that cause me to avoid photos of my "accomplishment".
It is a simple respect for the dead. The dead who gave their very lives so that I could live.
AQ, I hope all is well with you. The views you present show much thought. I believe we are in agreement on most things. Although I feel there is still much to learn from my side. Take care my friend and best wishes in 2013.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#173706 Dec 29, 2012
Jakeco wrote:
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If you are attempting to challenge A-Wy to a challenge of wits, why on earth did you show up unarmed?
Wow...did you make up that line all by yourself, Einstein ?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173707 Dec 29, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
Just wanted to take a moment and say hello to everyone and wish everybody a Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you and everyone else too!

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173708 Dec 30, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
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AQ, I hope all is well with you. The views you present show much thought. I believe we are in agreement on most things. Although I feel there is still much to learn from my side. Take care my friend and best wishes in 2013.
I'm doing better thanks Bow.
Yes there is much to learn from each other, and others.
Stay warm my friend, it's cold outside.

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173709 Dec 30, 2012
Mamasita wrote:
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The bear broke into your home? The bear was there first, idiot. You moved into HIS home ! Use logic.
You could choose to live many places but you chose his home. Maybe you should go live on a yacht.
Logic from you...thanks for the laugh. We all live where animals live..even you. You going to give up your home to return that land to the animals that were there first?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173710 Dec 30, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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I'm doing better thanks Bow.
Yes there is much to learn from each other, and others.
Stay warm my friend, it's cold outside.
21 degrees where I'm at. And I forgot to bring socks. Awful pretty though and I'm getting some really good winter shots! I just wish there were mountains.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173711 Dec 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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21 degrees where I'm at. And I forgot to bring socks. Awful pretty though and I'm getting some really good winter shots! I just wish there were mountains.
I just checked the mercury on the back porch.
Negative 19F.
Guess I better stoke the fire in the shop.'Pester' may be getting a little cool out there, although she is used to being outside.
Yep, had a feral cat decide that I may be her Mom or something a couple weeks ago. She is a yearling I'd say, with yellow tiger stripes, and sharp claws - real sharp claws. Found the remnants of a mouse on the shop floor a few days ago, so I guess she can sleep in the shop of she wants.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173712 Dec 30, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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I just checked the mercury on the back porch.
Negative 19F.
Guess I better stoke the fire in the shop.'Pester' may be getting a little cool out there, although she is used to being outside.
Yep, had a feral cat decide that I may be her Mom or something a couple weeks ago. She is a yearling I'd say, with yellow tiger stripes, and sharp claws - real sharp claws. Found the remnants of a mouse on the shop floor a few days ago, so I guess she can sleep in the shop of she wants.
At least little Pester has a warm place to sleep. Next spring you might have 29 little Pesters.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173713 Jan 2, 2013
EcoAngel wrote:
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Leave it to one of these arrogant lunkheads to make an analogy using sex. What a shocking development.
Athough they do tend to think with the little head rather than the big head, which is why they are hunters in the first place.
Typical ignorant bullshit from an AR lunatard! You make up idiotic derogatory comments to support your bigoted anti-human agenda. Hunting is as natural as breathing and humans have been doing it since the dawn of human history. Your overly emotional, unrealistic philosophy didn't even exist until modern times because if it had existed before then.........there wouldn't be any modern times. Humans are an omnivorous hunter/gatherer species. Always have been and always will be. Just the facts, ma'am.

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