Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32101 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah is an award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show." He is executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival and the Amman Stand Up Comedy Festival.

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#32201 Feb 4, 2014
NoMo wrote:
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BYU Idaho's anti-masturbation video is a perfect example of how screwed up your cult is. It's weird, creepy and has soo many mixed messages..how pathetic you and BYU Idaho and the sheep can't see it through the rest of the world's eyes. It's an easy thing to make fun of but when you realize children are being raised by whack jobs who actually believe this sh1t, it's disturbing. The damage you do to children because some old pervert doesn't want anyone to touch their own private parts is child abuse.
So let me get this from your perspective concerning an either or choice. A person has a child. They can either have the child raised in a religious influenced society where the aspects of sex are spoke against in moderate to extreme measures or, they can raise their child in a society that tells them sex is great and marvelous, masturbation is normal and healthy, porn is okay as long as they don't get caught looking at it, they toss condoms and other anti-contraception at them, that there's nothing wrong with engaging in sex as a child be it masturbation or sex itself because......because if they get an std or HIV or become pregnant, a school nurse to school peers to other adults can tell them where to go to have the std or HIV or pregnancy taken care of without their parent ever having to know unless they decide to tell that parent. They essentially teach the child they can do as an adult even though it's actually illegal what their doing on many levels their actually encourage to break the law because......because the liberal left endorse the child to act as an adult even if what they do is illegal and without parental knowledge.
And you say what the religious teach is sick and demented, weird and creepy? I think the society you endorse that teaches children to have safe sex and tosses condoms at the boys still in junior high because you believe their going to become a whore to their sexual appetite anyway without consequence or parental knowledge is a serious mental disease. I think it borders on true retardation seriously.

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#32202 Feb 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>So let me get this from your perspective concerning an either or choice. A person has a child. They can either have the child raised in a religious influenced society where the aspects of sex are spoke against in moderate to extreme measures or, they can raise their child in a society that tells them sex is great and marvelous, masturbation is normal and healthy, porn is okay as long as they don't get caught looking at it, they toss condoms and other anti-contraception at them, that there's nothing wrong with engaging in sex as a child be it masturbation or sex itself because......because if they get an std or HIV or become pregnant, a school nurse to school peers to other adults can tell them where to go to have the std or HIV or pregnancy taken care of without their parent ever having to know unless they decide to tell that parent. They essentially teach the child they can do as an adult even though it's actually illegal what their doing on many levels their actually encourage to break the law because......because the liberal left endorse the child to act as an adult even if what they do is illegal and without parental knowledge.
And you say what the religious teach is sick and demented, weird and creepy? I think the society you endorse that teaches children to have safe sex and tosses condoms at the boys still in junior high because you believe their going to become a whore to their sexual appetite anyway without consequence or parental knowledge is a serious mental disease. I think it borders on true retardation seriously.
Masturbation is normal and healthy, you sick silly man. Ask a dr.
Porn is ok as long as they don't get caught looking at it?? Whaaa...bless your heart.
Teenagers have been having sex for as long as there have been teenagers.
..you are one twisted, screwed up brainwashed idiot, it's always a trip talking to you....fly your freak flag!!
And btw, using the word "moderate" to describe BYU Idaho's anti-masturbation film is hysterical. It's a total riot.

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#32203 Feb 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>He'll be doing anything he can not to go to England. Maybe he can do his time in the same prison they have his buddy Warren Jeffs in. They could be cell mates. You can hear it now:

Jeffs: I'm the only living Prophet!

Monson: I'm the only living Prophet!

Jeffs: I'm the only living Prophet!

Monson: I'm the only living Prophet!

Bubba: You both are gonna be my bitches!
It just made USA Today:)

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#32204 Feb 5, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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They can either have the child raised in a religious influenced society where the aspects of sex are spoke against in moderate to extreme measures or, they can raise their child in a society that tells them sex is great and marvelous, masturbation is normal and healthy, porn is okay as long as they don't get caught looking at it, they toss condoms and other anti-contraception at them, that there's nothing wrong with engaging in sex as a child be it masturbation or sex itself because......because if they get an std or HIV or become pregnant, a school nurse to school peers to other adults can tell them where to go to have the std or HIV or pregnancy taken care of without their parent ever having to know unless they decide to tell that parent.
You think those are the only two choices? What are you 5 years old? Pathetic.

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#32205 Feb 5, 2014
NoMo wrote:
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Masturbation is normal and healthy, you sick silly man. Ask a dr.
Porn is ok as long as they don't get caught looking at it?? Whaaa...bless your heart.
Teenagers have been having sex for as long as there have been teenagers.
..you are one twisted, screwed up brainwashed idiot, it's always a trip talking to you....fly your freak flag!!
And btw, using the word "moderate" to describe BYU Idaho's anti-masturbation film is hysterical. It's a total riot.
lol......noooooooooo.....lol.. ..you don't even see the retardation of your own train of thought here so let me spell it out better for you. What an adult knows and appreciates is one thing. But what adults like you and those you represent with a mentally retarded disease, tossing condoms at little boys and girls in middle school because you believe their going to be a little immature sex fiends, that's the sickest depraved thinking happening.
That thinking generated in these little boys and girls thinking comes from the condoms you pass out to them, a non-verbal message telling them sex is great and wonderful and their going to do it anyway according to your sick and demented retardation thinking so have a condom and be prepared for what you claim their going to do anyway according to you. Get it?
And the fact that mentally sick disturbed people like you go and tell these little boys and girls way ahead of even being curious of their sexuality, that if they decided to engage in sex which you believe they will do, all is taken care of because there are clinics for them to have stds and pregnancy concerns taken care of without their parents ever having to know.
So all these little boys and girls in middle school having been reassured by the mentally sick and depraved and so retarded as you, condoms in their hands and a reassurance any sex problems to be taken care of at local clinics go ahead and engage in the sex because you have given them the green light to do it like an adult.
You're sick and depraved mentally retarded thinking has convinced middle school children their going to have sex so they become as you claim they will become. And stats show middle school kids have more sex now than at any previous known time. And it's because of your encouragement with condoms and clinics and statements to them that sex is great and well and do it and get it over with! The sickness lays in your retarded mentality. I understand you don't see it.

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#32206 Feb 5, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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And in some countries, it is illegal for them to even knock on doors, such as France, so now what?
Really? Where did you read that? Why didn't you give a link so I could read the source to see if your claim is true? I Googled your claim and got some ex-mo and mo hits that spoke of doing door to door in France. That would mean it's not illegal.

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#32207 Feb 5, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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That some people will refuse to see the truth is evidence of nothing. The FLDS church is proof of that. But Mormonism will always be a small religion, a minor religion. A speck among religions. Thank God.
From a view point of statistics in growth, when you consider most large religions have been around for 500 to 2000 or more years, Mormonism has done quite well for itself in growth in just 180 years.
When you compare Mormonism to all other religions that began at the same time period 180 years ago, none exist to even be measured against Mormon growth.
So yes, it's a speck against religions that have been around for 500 to 2000 years, but it's top dog in growth and unmatched by any religion that also came to be 180 years ago.
Sucky facts for you to digest eh? ;)P

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#32208 Feb 5, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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The Dead Sea scrolls doesn't save the BoM, and unlike the "Golden Plates", I can go see them
Why would they? That's like saying the DSS don't save the NT. Well of course they wouldn't seeing as how the DSS were written before 68 BCE. It's all a matter of interpretation don't ya know?:)

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#32209 Feb 5, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Your hypothesis begs the question; If you were a God and didn't want proof of your self to be found or proved en masse, I would ask you why? Why wouldn't you want to be proved or found en masse?
Two answers.

First, if all things were predestined (as many Christians believe)to take place and in spite of that fact I tried to teach my humans to have faith in me, that would be a logical waste of time on my part as a god and theirs if everything was factually predestined to happen by me. That would mean 'choice' doesn't actually exist. So faith in that scenario would be a lie. And if I'm a god of truth and no lie is in me, I just proved I'm a liar of a God to teach faith is needed where it actually doesn't exist.
Second. If I give my humans choices to pick to believe or not believe through faith, that though choices today form the future of tomorrow and the choices of tomorrow could change the future established today, it would be to see who would want to be with me and who would choose not to be with me. And those choices would be for their spiritual growth no matter what the choice would be. The purpose of faith by choice would be for me to see who would want to be with me or not be with me.

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#32210 Feb 5, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
Things are looking up for the LDS church! LOL!!!
Next time, go to an actual source. You described nothing of what it was about as usual, just saying....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/1061...

By John Bingham, Religious Affairs Editor2:26PM GMT 05 Feb 2014
A British magistrate has issued an extraordinary summons to the worldwide leader of the Mormon church alleging that its teachings about mankind amount to fraud.
Thomas S. Monson, President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been ordered to appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court in London next month to defend the church’s doctrines including beliefs about Adam and Eve and Native Americans.
A formal summons signed by District Judge Elizabeth Roscoe warns Mr Monson, who is recognised by Mormons as God’s prophet on Earth, that a warrant for his arrest could be issued if he fails to make the journey from Salt Lake City, Utah, for a hearing on March 14.
In one of the most unusual documents ever issued by a British court, it lists seven teachings of the church, including that Native Americans are descended from a family of ancient Israelites as possible evidence of fraud.
It also cites the belief that the Book of Mormon was translated from ancient gold plates revealed to the church’s founder Joseph Smith by angels and that Adam and Eve lived around 6,000 years ago.
The document suggests that asking members of the church to make contributions while promoting theological doctrines which “might be untrue or misleading” could be a breach of the Fraud Act 2006.
The Church dismissed the summons as containing “bizarre allegations” and signalled that Mr Monson has no plans to attend.
It was issued in response to a private prosecution attempt by Tom Phillips, a disaffected former Mormon who now runs MormonThink a website highly critical of the church.
Under little-used legal procedures, people who say they have evidence that someone has committed a crime can ask a magistrate to issue a summons requiring them to attend a court hearing.
The district judge would then decide whether or not to proceed with a case or dismiss it.
Similar procedures were used by Palestinian activist in 2009 to have an arrest warrant issued against the Israeli justice minister Tzipi Livni, leading to an international diplomatic incident.
Two virtually identical summonses were sent to Mr Monson naming Stephen Bloor, a former Mormon bishop, and Christopher Denis Ralph, another former convert, as victims of the alleged fraud.
It argues that by being persuaded to pay a tithe to the church on the basis of teachings which might not be true, the president could have committed fraud.
Among teachings it singles out as suspect are the assertion that the Book of Mormon was “translated from ancient gold plates by Joseph Smith [and] is the most correct book on Earth and is an ancient historical record” and that the Mormons’ Book of Abraham, was translated from Egyptian papyri by Joseph Smith.
Other beliefs ....(see link)
The document then demands that Mr Monson appears in court number six at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Marylebone Road at 10am on March 14 or face arrest.
Malcolm Adcock, the church’s public affairs director for Europe, said:“The Church occasionally receives documents like this that seek to draw attention to an individual’s personal grievance or embarrass church leaders.
“These bizarre allegations fit into that category.”
But Mr Phillips said:“The head of the Mormon Church has been summoned to a court to answer allegations of fraud – I don’t think a judge at Westminster Magistrates’ Court would sign off on ‘bizarre allegations’– I certainly hope they never would.
“This has been a very serious matter that has been looked at in extreme detail.”

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#32211 Feb 5, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
LOL!!! HE'S SCREWED!
You can't prove fraud from someone having a RELIGIOUS BELIEF that they predicate the giving of tithing upon. You do understand that correct? Please tell me you understand that?

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#32212 Feb 5, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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You think those are the only two choices? What are you 5 years old? Pathetic.
No but your inability to read is disturbing. I gave two scenarios for her to work with. That didn't mean other scenarios don't exist. It means I limited it to two that actually war with each other as she's an example of. Can you handle that information?

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#32213 Feb 5, 2014
NoMo wrote:
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Masturbation is normal and healthy, you sick silly man. Ask a dr.
Porn is ok as long as they don't get caught looking at it?? Whaaa...bless your heart.
Teenagers have been having sex for as long as there have been teenagers.
..you are one twisted, screwed up brainwashed idiot, it's always a trip talking to you....fly your freak flag!!
And btw, using the word "moderate" to describe BYU Idaho's anti-masturbation film is hysterical. It's a total riot.
One more thing, the 'normal and healthy' thing is for a parent/sibling/relative/guardi an to help a child understand things they are experiencing and growing through physically and or mentally. That's the normal and healthy thing most parents religious or non-religious help their child/children understand as they grow.
But it's the sick and mentally retarded degenerates like yourself and all those you represent that hang out at middle schools and where ever children congregate giving them handfuls of condoms and telling them if they have sex or are going to have sex, that everything has been taken care of by the likes of you so their parents never, ever have to know their engaging in sex and you further tell those children it's their right to not tell their parents their engaging in sex or have caught an STD or even became pregnant.
I'll take the craziness of an anti-masturbation film over the sick mentally deranged retarded thinking people like you encouraging middle school aged kids to have sex any day of the fricking week.

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#32215 Feb 5, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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Next time, go to an actual source. You described nothing of what it was about as usual, just saying....
My source was from the people who filed the lawsuit, assclown.

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#32216 Feb 5, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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Why would they? That's like saying the DSS don't save the NT. Well of course they wouldn't seeing as how the DSS were written before 68 BCE. It's all a matter of interpretation don't ya know?:)
Well, tell that to your idiot girlfriend, not me. She is the one using them as proof of the BoM. You are extra stupid for some reason today. Did you hit your head? Having headaches? What's the problem, baby. LOL!!!

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Marysville, CA

#32217 Feb 5, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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From a view point of statistics in growth, when you consider most large religions have been around for 500 to 2000 or more years, Mormonism has done quite well for itself in growth in just 180 years.
When you compare Mormonism to all other religions that began at the same time period 180 years ago, none exist to even be measured against Mormon growth.
So yes, it's a speck against religions that have been around for 500 to 2000 years, but it's top dog in growth and unmatched by any religion that also came to be 180 years ago.
Sucky facts for you to digest eh? ;)P
The Jehovah's Witness has almost the same amount of membership in a shorter amount of time. Suck of that fact, dimwit boy.

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#32218 Feb 5, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>lol......noooooooooo.. ...lol....you don't even see the retardation of your own train of thought here so let me spell it out better for you. What an adult knows and appreciates is one thing. But what adults like you and those you represent with a mentally retarded disease, tossing condoms at little boys and girls in middle school because you believe their going to be a little immature sex fiends, that's the sickest depraved thinking happening.
That thinking generated in these little boys and girls thinking comes from the condoms you pass out to them, a non-verbal message telling them sex is great and wonderful and their going to do it anyway according to your sick and demented retardation thinking so have a condom and be prepared for what you claim their going to do anyway according to you. Get it?
And the fact that mentally sick disturbed people like you go and tell these little boys and girls way ahead of even being curious of their sexuality, that if they decided to engage in sex which you believe they will do, all is taken care of because there are clinics for them to have stds and pregnancy concerns taken care of without their parents ever having to know.
So all these little boys and girls in middle school having been reassured by the mentally sick and depraved and so retarded as you, condoms in their hands and a reassurance any sex problems to be taken care of at local clinics go ahead and engage in the sex because you have given them the green light to do it like an adult.
You're sick and depraved mentally retarded thinking has convinced middle school children their going to have sex so they become as you claim they will become. And stats show middle school kids have more sex now than at any previous known time. And it's because of your encouragement with condoms and clinics and statements to them that sex is great and well and do it and get it over with! The sickness lays in your retarded mentality. I understand you don't see it.
You do know using the word "retarded" as an insult is politically incorrect, right? And you do realize that people with handicaps and disabilities have been,for years, asking for morons like you to stop using that word as a derogatory term?
The rest of your meth induced fantasy is very, terribly actually..creepy. I hope you aren't around children, ever.

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#32219 Feb 5, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing, the 'normal and healthy' thing is for a parent/sibling/relative/guardi an to help a child understand things they are experiencing and growing through physically and or mentally. That's the normal and healthy thing most parents religious or non-religious help their child/children understand as they grow.
But it's the sick and mentally retarded degenerates like yourself and all those you represent that hang out at middle schools and where ever children congregate giving them handfuls of condoms and telling them if they have sex or are going to have sex, that everything has been taken care of by the likes of you so their parents never, ever have to know their engaging in sex and you further tell those children it's their right to not tell their parents their engaging in sex or have caught an STD or even became pregnant.
I'll take the craziness of an anti-masturbation film over the sick mentally deranged retarded thinking people like you encouraging middle school aged kids to have sex any day of the fricking week.
Your insanity is in full bloom, you might want to regroup and get that in check, freak.

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#32220 Feb 6, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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My source was from the people who filed the lawsuit, assclown.
No. Your source was Mormonthink.com , not the people that filed the lawsuit. The source you should have pasted was the following...

http://www.mormonthink.com/img/monson-summons...

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#32221 Feb 6, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Well, tell that to your idiot girlfriend, not me. She is the one using them as proof of the BoM. You are extra stupid for some reason today. Did you hit your head? Having headaches? What's the problem, baby. LOL!!!
I'll lower my thinking to your immature level this once and begin my reply with....
"You are extra stupid for some reason today. Did you hit your head? Having headaches? What's the problem, baby. LOL!!!"
Mouse wrote the following concerning the DSS and that statement had nothing to do with proving the BOM true.... "Just like the Dead Sea Scrolls and other Gospel writings that were trapped in darkness.." ....she was speaking of how different writings had been hid away 2000 years ago for the purpose of being found at a much later date. Get it? "You are extra stupid for some reason today. Did you hit your head? Having headaches? What's the problem, baby. LOL!!!

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