Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32004 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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#32180 Feb 3, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Compared to you and your mental sickness in supporting those that support giving condoms and such to children who use them because sick whack jobs like you already taught them earlier in childhood before they knew what it was that whacking off is a perfectly natural thing to do and you further reassure them that if they than graduate to looking at porn that's okay to, as long as they don't get caught and than you reassure them that if they become one of the percentages that graduate to wanting more than masturbation for a sex fix to finding someone to have actual sex with and they catch an std or someone becomes pregnant, you tell them don't worry at all because their are organizations that will give medical relief to minors so their parent never has to know and all before the age of 18 they, according to your sick mentality can partake in because you give them your approval to do so. lol.....and you see problems with a anti-masturbation film? Yeah....you just keep hanging out at middle and high schools handing condoms to the kids....fricking sick mentality......
Hahaha. You're so funny. If the BYU Idaho students turn in their roommates for porn and touching themselves, they get brownie points!!!! And you silly freaks who support this sickness all get to feel even worse about what u do when no one is looking. From what I hear, exmos don't get anywhere near as excited about porn as they did when they were mo. The taboo is gone. It's not that big of a deal anymore. The cult repression tactics are the real culprit. Have you ever wondered why? LOL.

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#32181 Feb 3, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
Reality is tearing the walls of Mormonism down one brick at a time.
http://simonsoutherton.blogspot.com/2014/02/r...
" I grew to adulthood listening to the prophet Spencer W. Kimball, God’s mouthpiece on earth, telling us about millions of living Lamanites. He told us how in fulfilment of prophecy the Lamanites were blossoming as a rose in the Latter-days. I probably heard these messages more frequently in Australia because of our proximity to our Polynesian neighbours, many of whom had made Australia their home. According to President Kimball there were 60 million Lamanites scattered across the Americas and throughout the Pacific. Their Lamanite ancestry was acknowledged in dozens of temple dedicatory prayers (and still is), thousands of patriarchal blessings and countless seminary, institute and Sunday School classes. Everyone, including the apostles, and all my church leaders and friends, knew who the Lamanites were and where they lived.
"What a difference DNA makes.
"Now we are told in an official-looking essay buried on the LDS.org website “nothing is known about the DNA of Book of Mormon peoples.” I wonder what the thousands of Mormons, who feel that the Spirit has revealed to them they are Lamanites, will make of that. If you don’t know what the DNA of Book of Mormon people looks like, how can you tell who is a Lamanite or where the Lamanites have gone?
"When Mormons are faced with uncomfortable scientific facts they are invariably told by their leaders that science is changing all the time so they shouldn’t be concerned. In the essay we are told the DNA data is “tentative”. But it is LDS beliefs about Native American ancestry that have been proven to be tentative. For most of the last two centuries Mormons have proclaimed that Native Americans and Polynesians are the descendants of Book of Mormon peoples. Then LDS apologists shrunk the claims and aligned the Book of Mormon civilizations with the Olmec and Maya in the region of Mesoamerica. Now the Lamanite presence has contracted to the point that it has essentially vanished. "
You picked a horrible copy paste opinionated piece to post.

There was a written history of the people during that time they told their story in the Book of Mormon. The Spaniards wrote about evidences they found that compliment the writings... so did the French.

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Also it confuses the intent of Mormon apologists.

Get informed: Mormon apologists http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765593951/...

"Socrates was not apologizing for his actions," Peterson said. "He was defending and explaining them using reason and logic."

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#32182 Feb 3, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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You don't find two completely different teachings by one person. Good try though. You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't force him to think.
The Book of Mormon wasn't a writing of the Prophet Joseph Smith. It was a writing of the Nephites travels, adversities, struggles, etc... It was written 500 BC. The Prophet did not write the Book of Mormon. He was called by God to translate it into English and bring it too into the light.

Just like the Dead Sea Scrolls and other Gospel writings that were trapped in darkness.. but brought into the light including the Bible (both the OT and the NT) after the Church of Rome killed the last of the disciples off and changed the original languages of Hebrew and Greek into Latin.

Get informed about the History of the Bible: http://greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-h...

Moreover, there are more writings out there to be brought into the light when the time is right.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

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#32183 Feb 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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No, but you will find at least two completely different opinionated interpretations, that's true.
I can find opinionated evidence in just the Bible for a monotheist God without two extra personalities, a God with multiple personalities and a Godhead with three distinct and separate Gods.
Your Trinity belief came way late on the heals of Gnosticism. Your Trinity belief is a very man made definition of God that God never, ever, gave of himself. So your Trinity belief is man made which you have confused with God explained. But you hang onto that man made definition if it makes you happy :)
I'm not debating the Trinity, I'm showing that Smith believed in it when he wrote the Book of Mormon. You will find no teaching in it that God was once a man, or that God is a gloried man. Proof that later teachings were just made up as much as the BoM was.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#32184 Feb 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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Really? That's how you comprehend the issue of Americans in 2014 being more reluctant than in the past two centuries to let strangers into their homes no matter why they're there knocking on their door? Lack of inspiration? Yeahhhhwhatever dude. This is a US thing. The LDS church doesn't have this issue in most other countries where their at. People still open their doors there. Door to door tracting still happens in all those other countries. No lack of inspiration in those countries according to your reverse logic. Now what?
And in some countries, it is illegal for them to even knock on doors, such as France, so now what?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

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#32185 Feb 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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That's what people like yourself claimed for at least three decades prior to black males being allowed to have the priesthood. They use to write what you claim in books, periodicals, newspaper and magazine articles and tons of it in anti-Mormon literature pamphlets. John Smith and other notable anti-Mormons made their own prophecies of the ending of the LDS church in a couple decades than. Guess they could pass off being wrong to miscalculations in what they claimed eh? Let me know when the first temple stands empty of use after being fully occupied because you claim their are fewer and fewer numbers to occupy them okay? That's when I'll listen to what you claim now as an actual possibility of happening :)
That some people will refuse to see the truth is evidence of nothing. The FLDS church is proof of that. But Mormonism will always be a small religion, a minor religion. A speck among religions. Thank God.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

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#32186 Feb 4, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
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You picked a horrible copy paste opinionated piece to post.
There was a written history of the people during that time they told their story in the Book of Mormon. The Spaniards wrote about evidences they found that compliment the writings... so did the French.
//
Also it confuses the intent of Mormon apologists.
Get informed: Mormon apologists http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765593951/...
"Socrates was not apologizing for his actions," Peterson said. "He was defending and explaining them using reason and logic."
That the Book of Mormon is a total figment of the mind of Joseph Smith is without question. Plain as the nose on your face. It's as much history as "The Lord of the Rings" and scared as the Koran.

Praying and warm feelings aren't going to change that.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#32187 Feb 4, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
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The Book of Mormon wasn't a writing of the Prophet Joseph Smith. It was a writing of the Nephites travels, adversities, struggles, etc... It was written 500 BC. The Prophet did not write the Book of Mormon. He was called by God to translate it into English and bring it too into the light.
Just like the Dead Sea Scrolls and other Gospel writings that were trapped in darkness.. but brought into the light including the Bible (both the OT and the NT) after the Church of Rome killed the last of the disciples off and changed the original languages of Hebrew and Greek into Latin.
Get informed about the History of the Bible: http://greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-h...
Moreover, there are more writings out there to be brought into the light when the time is right.
The Dead Sea scrolls doesn't save the BoM, and unlike the "Golden Plates", I can go see them
pearl

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#32188 Feb 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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I agree. What I find fascinating in thought is if I was a God and I didn't want proof of my self to be found or proved "en-mass of the human population", but I wanted those humans to have proof or evidence of some kind to know to some degree of surety that I existed, what would I do? I would work it so that a knowledge of me could be imparted to single individuals that sought it with sincerity, but not en-mass.
Your hypothesis begs the question; If you were a God and didn't want proof of your self to be found or proved en masse, I would ask you why? Why wouldn't you want to be proved or found en masse?

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#32189 Feb 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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The Dead Sea scrolls doesn't save the BoM, and unlike the "Golden Plates", I can go see them
You don't see the entire set of Dead Sea Scrolls either do you?

... because of GREED... people tore them apart in as small as pieces as they could to sell them with the intent to get the most out of them as possible.

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#32190 Feb 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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I'm not debating the Trinity, I'm showing that Smith believed in it when he wrote the Book of Mormon. You will find no teaching in it that God was once a man, or that God is a gloried man. Proof that later teachings were just made up as much as the BoM was.
The Prophet Joseph Smith did not write the Book of Mormon.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

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#32191 Feb 4, 2014
Things are looking up for the LDS church! LOL!!!

Thomas Monson issued court summons to answer allegations of fraud - 2/4/14

The Prophet of the LDS Church, Thomas S. Monson has been ordered to attend court and face allegations of fraud.

A court in London, England has issued Thomas Spencer Monson with 2 summons (see below) containing allegations of seven offences in contravention of Section 1 Fraud Act 2006.

Mr. Monson is required to attend the court, Westminster Magistrates’ Court, on 14th March 2014. The court will then almost certainly refer the case to Southwark Crown Court for further proceedings. Failure of Mr. Monson to attend the Court on 14th March may result in a warrant being issued for his arrest.

The maximum penalty for the allegations contained in the summons is ten years imprisonment and a fine, for each offence.(Section 3 (b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to a fine (or to both).)

Mr. Monson is entitled to a fair trial and any comments that might prejudice the case should be avoided.

Further information about these allegations will be published shortly.

http://mormonthink.com/

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#32192 Feb 4, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
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You don't see the entire set of Dead Sea Scrolls either do you?
... because of GREED... people tore them apart in as small as pieces as they could to sell them with the intent to get the most out of them as possible.
Don't see any of the so-called "Golden Plates". LOL!!!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#32193 Feb 4, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
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The Prophet Joseph Smith did not write the Book of Mormon.
You can claim that all you want, but it won't change the facts.

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#32194 Feb 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
Things are looking up for the LDS church! LOL!!!

Thomas Monson issued court summons to answer allegations of fraud - 2/4/14

The Prophet of the LDS Church, Thomas S. Monson has been ordered to attend court and face allegations of fraud.

A court in London, England has issued Thomas Spencer Monson with 2 summons (see below) containing allegations of seven offences in contravention of Section 1 Fraud Act 2006.

Mr. Monson is required to attend the court, Westminster MagistratesÂ’ Court, on 14th March 2014. The court will then almost certainly refer the case to Southwark Crown Court for further proceedings. Failure of Mr. Monson to attend the Court on 14th March may result in a warrant being issued for his arrest.

The maximum penalty for the allegations contained in the summons is ten years imprisonment and a fine, for each offence.(Section 3 (b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to a fine (or to both).)

Mr. Monson is entitled to a fair trial and any comments that might prejudice the case should be avoided.

Further information about these allegations will be published shortly.

http://mormonthink.com/
Ruh Roe...his Alzheimer's isn't going to help much on the witness stand:)

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#32195 Feb 4, 2014
More details, this is gonna be funny

http://mormondisclosures.blogspot.com/2014/02...

begin quote--
That between 3rd February 2008 and 31st December 2013 dishonestly and intending thereby to make a gain for himself or another or a loss or risk of loss to another made or caused to be made representations to [NAME], which were and which you knew were or might be untrue or misleading and thereby induce the said [NAME] to pay an annual tithe to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, namely that
i) The Book of Abraham is a literal translation of Egyptian papyri by Joseph Smith.
ii) The Book of Mormon was translated from ancient gold plates by Joseph 'Smith is the most correct book on earth and is an ancient historical record.
iii) Native Americans are descended from an Israelite family which left Jerusalem in 600 B.C.
iv) Joseph and Hyrum Smith were killed as martyrs in 1844 because they would not deny their testimony of the Book of Mormon.
v) The Illinois newspaper called the Nauvoo Expositor had to be destroyed because it printed lies about Joseph Smith.
vi) There was no death on this planet prior to 6,000 years ago
vii) All humans alive today are descended from just two people who lived approximately 6,000 years ago
Contrary to section 1 of the Fraud Act 2006
--end quote

LOL!!! HE'S SCREWED!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#32196 Feb 4, 2014
NoMo wrote:
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Ruh Roe...his Alzheimer's isn't going to help much on the witness stand:)
He'll be doing anything he can not to go to England. Maybe he can do his time in the same prison they have his buddy Warren Jeffs in. They could be cell mates. You can hear it now:

Jeffs: I'm the only living Prophet!

Monson: I'm the only living Prophet!

Jeffs: I'm the only living Prophet!

Monson: I'm the only living Prophet!

Bubba: You both are gonna be my bitches!

“Good day to you!”

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#32197 Feb 4, 2014
NoMo wrote:
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Hahaha. You're so funny. If the BYU Idaho students turn in their roommates for porn and touching themselves, they get brownie points!!!! And you silly freaks who support this sickness all get to feel even worse about what u do when no one is looking. From what I hear, exmos don't get anywhere near as excited about porn as they did when they were mo. The taboo is gone. It's not that big of a deal anymore. The cult repression tactics are the real culprit. Have you ever wondered why? LOL.
If anyone anywhere doesn't have the common normal thinking that if they have to masturbate the best place is behind a locked door or some place else where they know no one will walk in on them, than they deserve to be ridiculed and made fun of and humiliated for having been caught.
Next, it doesn't matter what you or I think. One of the things BYU campuses are predicated upon are people wanting to be students there that want to refrain from sex including masturbation and or looking at porn and or paying for sex with hookers and or engaging in sex with others etc. It's one of the criteria for being a student there. If one can't handle the rules, don't enroll. Simple concept to understand.
To like sexual activity whatever it may be and to want to be a student at BYU is to tattoo the equivalent of "I'm retarded because I am".

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#32198 Feb 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>If anyone anywhere doesn't have the common normal thinking that if they have to masturbate the best place is behind a locked door or some place else where they know no one will walk in on them, than they deserve to be ridiculed and made fun of and humiliated for having been caught.
Next, it doesn't matter what you or I think. One of the things BYU campuses are predicated upon are people wanting to be students there that want to refrain from sex including masturbation and or looking at porn and or paying for sex with hookers and or engaging in sex with others etc. It's one of the criteria for being a student there. If one can't handle the rules, don't enroll. Simple concept to understand.
To like sexual activity whatever it may be and to want to be a student at BYU is to tattoo the equivalent of "I'm retarded because I am".
BYU Idaho's anti-masturbation video is a perfect example of how screwed up your cult is. It's weird, creepy and has soo many mixed messages..how pathetic you and BYU Idaho and the sheep can't see it through the rest of the world's eyes. It's an easy thing to make fun of but when you realize children are being raised by whack jobs who actually believe this sh1t, it's disturbing. The damage you do to children because some old pervert doesn't want anyone to touch their own private parts is child abuse.

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#32200 Feb 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Don't see any of the so-called "Golden Plates". LOL!!!
Is that supposed to hurt my feelings because it didn't. I was just childish.

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