Pet overpopulation cries out for mand...

Pet overpopulation cries out for mandatory spay-neuter regulation

There are 20 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Mar 5, 2008, titled Pet overpopulation cries out for mandatory spay-neuter regulation. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

It's no surprise that the American Kennel Club is rallying in opposition to Palm Beach County's much-needed mandatory spay/neuter law.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Delray

United States

#1 Mar 5, 2008
I agree...and will add that I think breeders are cold hearted greedy people.
agnostic conservative

Homestead, FL

#2 Mar 5, 2008
Just like the breeding, medicaid happy people of the world too. What are you guys going to do about that?
KLI

San Antonio, TX

#3 Mar 5, 2008
Go into these large cities and it all those latinos and balcks that have animals roaming around the streets that no one claims, that get hit by traffic or end up attacking someone. The breed and not one care for the sick ans starving pups and malnourished mother dogs.

They can not even control the amoutn of kids they have what chance does a pet have?
Sigmund Fraud

AOL

#4 Mar 5, 2008
It would be great if we could spay and neuter many humans. They should first be required to get an education, then prove they have the skills, and financial foundation to bring a child into this world, and rear that child without the financial help of the rest of the community.

There are childless couples out there who have wanted families of their own, yet are stuck paying taxes to fund welfare programs for others who should never have had children in the first place. And then there are people who've never had children, and never wanted children, yet they are stuck paying their hard-earned money in taxes for the same welfare programs, and see no benefit in return.
Lil Sayre

AOL

#5 Mar 6, 2008
How can breeders be responsible when the majority of animals killed are stray and feral cats or mixed breed dogs, arriving at the shelters as adults, not puppies? Mandatory spay/neuter has not worked where it has been passed and in fact has had the opposite effect. This rhetoric is the mantra of the animal rights activisits working toward their goal of eliminating domestic animals. What does work is offering free and low-cost spay and neuter opportunities and education.
Linda Rappaport

Hollywood, FL

#6 Mar 6, 2008
Who says breeders are turning in dogs at the shelters? Owners are. And even though dog ownership is at an all-time high, the shelter population, proportionally, is down. Yet, we do need to do something about this, and this starts with better informed, more responsible owners--and also no cost, or low cost spay/neuter clinics and obedience classes, available during the weekends and evenings. The animal rights movement wants to eliminate the ownership of purebred dogs, and pass restrictive laws, instead of proactively coming up with solutions to the problem. Targeting breeders won't solve anything--especially when these animal rights people are in the puppy broker business themselves, bringing potcake puppies in from the islands offshore to South Florida shelters. If things are so bad here, why aren't they helping to adopt adult and pups here? Just looking for publicity--like Pamela PETA Anderson.
Jeff

United States

#7 Mar 6, 2008
Pet "overpopulation "is a myth created by animal rights extremists to accomplish their ultimate stated and written goals of ending "pets " and ownership of any animal. There certainly is no "crisis" . Euthanasia rates and totals are roughly one third what they were in the late 1970's without mandatory sterilization .How many of the 4000 discussed were cats ? How many dogs and cats in that number can you prove came from a "breeder " as opposed to feral or simply street bred strays ? I have NEVER made a dime selling dogs , so don't lable me because of my position . I have also had to put down MANY sick , injured or ill tempered animals that I initially tried to rescue , so don't tell me I have no heart . Education is the key , not emotional pleas of a nonexistent "crisis " .
Leslie

Cocoa, FL

#8 Mar 6, 2008
I wish as a society we could learn to put the responsibility where it lies. We are oh so quick to want to stop the "Evil Breeders" and blame them for pet overpopulation. The real fault lies in the hands of the owners of the dogs. It is owners who turn them in to shelters because they have to move or they just had a baby or who let them roam the streets. The numbers the animal rights activist like to throw around do not include any information as to why the animals were put to sleep or where they came from. I also believe that we need better education about responsible pet ownership and low cost spay and neuter. I also think people should learn more about animal rights activist. Most people do not know that they are Way Left Extremist who's primary purpose is to stop animal use of all kinds. That means no pets!!! Ever!! I also believe that this is not just about the animals, it is about our rights as law abiding citizens to enjoy the freedoms we deserve. I do not believe we should be punished for the deeds of others.
Susanne Blood

Pompano Beach, FL

#9 Mar 6, 2008
The dog over population problem is not caused by responsible breeders. It is pet stores that sell puppies & backyard breeders. Pet stoers sell puppies that are from puppy mills. Horrible places where dogs are kept in filthy conditions, overcrowded, bred on every heat cycle, fed the cheapest food & with no regard to health or temperment testing. They churn out litter after litter, not caring where the puppies go after they are sold.
Backyard breeders breed for $$$. Some think it is nice to create designer dogs like the Puggle (pug/beagle) or make a breed better by adding Poodle to it. Like the labradoodle, goldendoodle, cockapoo, pekapoo, schnoodle...Or call toy breeds "teacup" & sell them at inflated prices.
Responsible breeders interview potential new owners to make sure it is the correct *forever* home. Questions like "Do you have a fenced yard? Do you have children? How many? How old? How many hours a day do you work? How long will the puppy be alone? Where will the puppy sleep?..."
Responsible breeders also make new owners sign a contract that states that the dog shall be spayed or neutered if not show quality. Also in the contract is the stipulation that if at any time, for any reason you cannot keep the dog, it is to be returned to the breeder so that it does NOT end up in a pound or shelter.
If you want to stop the dog over population, stop pet stores from selling puppies. Have them be a source of adoptions. The general public is spending BILLIONS of $$$ on food & leashes & collars & toys & beds & chewies & treats...They do not have to sell live animals to make a profit.
Sawgrass Willy

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Mar 6, 2008
Jeff wrote:
Pet "overpopulation "is a myth created by animal rights extremists to accomplish their ultimate stated and written goals of ending "pets " and ownership of any animal. There certainly is no "crisis" . Euthanasia rates and totals are roughly one third what they were in the late 1970's without mandatory sterilization .How many of the 4000 discussed were cats ? How many dogs and cats in that number can you prove came from a "breeder " as opposed to feral or simply street bred strays ? I have NEVER made a dime selling dogs , so don't lable me because of my position . I have also had to put down MANY sick , injured or ill tempered animals that I initially tried to rescue , so don't tell me I have no heart . Education is the key , not emotional pleas of a nonexistent "crisis " .
You are definitely full of dog c-r.a,p. There are way too many stray animals. I know because I've been caring for strays (cats & dogs) in two states. Two of the primary offending groups are the military (near bases) and very low income areas. The military are guilty of abandoning their pets in nearby parks when they ship out. Then, these animals breed freely. People in lower income areas also abandon their non-neutered pets in their neighborhoods.
M Smith- AMSC Rescue

United States

#11 Mar 6, 2008
Mandatory spay/neuter will only affect the ethical breeders, and they aren't the ones causing the problem. Many people that are interested in purebred dogs aren't interested in mixes, and that is MOST of what is in shelters. AND, if your shelter is putting down this many animals, then they are doing something wrong when either evaluating these dogs (if they are putting down healthy dogs), or placing them with the wrong people if they come back. Maybe the Animal Rights Foundation of Florida should put some of their money (you know, put your money where your mouth is) behind actually finding these dogs homes and not work to keep people from having pets in the first place.
JHGF

San Antonio, TX

#12 Mar 6, 2008
Ever notice that the pet overpopulation mirrors the lower class people that own them and do not take care of them and these are the people who pour out kids and cannot take care of the? These areas have dogs hit and killed by traffic, running the streets and even attacking people. Animal control is in those areas most of the time.
Jeff

United States

#13 Mar 6, 2008
Sawgrass Willy ....thank you for the personal attack AND for your comments that prove the point being made by most here that ignorant decisions by people are the problem . Those "abandoned " dogs HAD homes , as most did at one point . They weren'yt "homeless" until some irresponsible owner decided to dump them because it was no longer convenient to keep them . I see you didn't(because you can't)dispute that euthanasia numbers have plummeted for the last 30 years . The only people affected by this ordinance or similar ridiculous and Draconian laws (Los Angeles) are those folks that were not the problem in the first place . Why don't you run the numbers and see how many of the dumped animals from the two places you described registered their animals or complied with existing regulations . I doubt few . Those same people that ARE the problem , the ones you described could not care less if you tell them to spay and neuter . You won't even know they had a dog until they abandon it for me to pick up (did you read all my first post ? I rescue too !) Nice try ....
cyndi

Bakersfield, CA

#14 Mar 7, 2008
hey heather
please read Redemption by Nathan Winograd and maybe you will understand while the proposal for Palm Beach County was not only vindictive punitive and sexist its not working. we sought a special task force so we could set up a no kill community. Its animal control that is killing the cats instead of maintaining feral communities. Many of these cats have been altered and placed back in the community only to be picked up by acc and killed. so before you start spouting you should do your homework
cyndi

Bakersfield, CA

#15 Mar 7, 2008
Jeff wrote:
Pet "overpopulation "is a myth created by animal rights extremists to accomplish their ultimate stated and written goals of ending "pets " and ownership of any animal. There certainly is no "crisis" strays ?
actually this is correct. Places like PETA do not saved animals their kill rate is actually worse than all the animal controls
http://nathanwinograd.blogspot.com/
nathan is one o the for most experts in the country
PETA has a worse kill rate then any animalcontrol
n search of a diagnosis as to why Ingrid Newkirk and PETA seek out animals to kill. And a plea for the movement to stop them so that they won’t continue killing.
"I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself... I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day." --Ingrid Newkirk, 2003 New Yorker interview, on her job at an animal shelter.
In 2006, an official report from People for The Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) shows that they took in 3,043 animals, of which 1,960 were cats, 1,030 were dogs, 52 were other companion animals, and 1 was a chicken. Of these, they killed the chicken, killed 1,942 cats, 988 dogs, and 50 classified as “other companion animals.” They found homes for only 2 cats, 8 dogs and 2 of the other companion animals.
By the numbers:
* PETA killed 1,942 of the 1,960 cats, finding homes for only 2.
* PETA killed 988 of the 1,030 dogs finding homes for only 8.
* PETA killed 50 of the 52 other companion animals (rabbits, guinea pigs, etc.), finding homes for only 2.
* PETA killed the chicken they took in.
That’s a 97% kill rate. Despite $30 million in revenues, they found homes for only 12 animals. An additional 21 cats and 25 dogs were transferred to another agency (likely a kill shelter since PETA has a “policy against No Kill shelters.”) The rest were put to death. Why?
Jeff

United States

#16 Mar 7, 2008
Cyndi ...Why ? Because that is their goal . NO MORE PETS ! Anyone with a computer or library access can read for themselves the goals of Ingrid Newkirk and Peta . Very sad . More sad that onsuspecting people donate money to them thinking it is to "save " animals .
Jacquie Navratil

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Mar 12, 2008
I'm from Los Angeles, California where this law just passed & it's been a true success for all animal lovers & taxpayers who are fudning the animal shelters!
As a former resident of South Florida, I hope all citizens will take the steps necessary to reduce the number of animals put to death each year in Florida. This law is directed at those too lazy to spay/neuter- even at 'low cost" and unlicensed breeders who are adding to a pet overpopulation crisis.

All taxpayers must support this important issue. the time has come for tax dollars are put to use in areas which are in dire need- education & healthcare NOT funding the killing of animals.

Thank you to the Sun-Sentinel for promoting this vital issue.
ramills

United States

#18 Mar 12, 2008
It's about time this problem got under control.
My 3 dogs were all found roaming the streets homeless, no tags and no one looking for them.
They've all been wonderful, loving additions to my family, in more ways than I can mention here.

I'm sick and tired of all the killing and senseless breading.
I had neighbors who let their backyard dogs breed and each year they had 8 or 9 puppies ! just because hey thought it was cute.

There is pretty much a rescue group for any pure breed or mutt
you could possibly want. Humans need to step up to the plate
and reflect a more compassionate nature when it comes to animals. And killing them by the millions is not compassion. It's ignorance.

Dogs and cats,bunnies, even chickens. They're here because we breed them and dump them when we're bored with taking care of them.

Cute little chicks become adult chickens no one wants, cute little bunnies get dumped off and put down by the thousands, by irresponsible mothers/parents
who want a cute toy for their kids around easter. And dump off mr bunnie, when they no longer want to care for it.

bunnies and chicks are not toys, they are living breathing
creatures who have basic daily needs. Please don't buy real bunnies over easter, get a chocolate one or a big stuffed one for your kid. or take them to a petting zoo.
Ask any shelter how many bunnies are returned after every easter, across the nation I'm sure it's thousands.

I also think it would be great if legislation could be introduced in different cities that would allow more renters to have pets.
I could only have my 3 dogs when I owned my own home. In most cases you can only have one small pet or none at all if you rent.
It's ridiculous that people are allowed to cram countless messy, screaming children into small spaces but single people can't have pets in the same living areas.
So charge an extra security deposit, most pet owners would be happy to pay it. All these new complexes that go up almost all have, NO PETS ALLOWED. This situation doesn't help adoption rates going up by people who would otherwise love to adopt a pet from a local shelter. Or even keep the one they have when they are forced to move.
SIZZLEKAT

United States

#19 Mar 13, 2008
You are a complete looney toon!!! Stop reading just the headlines and raw numbers and do some real research into where the majority on these animal are found. Feral cats, sick, old, debilitated, neglectful PET owners, etc. Do something besides parroting the maniacal Animal Rights fanatices. Com'on, show us you have a brain!!
Robert

Brewster, MA

#20 Mar 15, 2008
I just got through reading an article that exposes why breeders don't want mandatory spay neuter laws.

And why the AKC doesn't.

The AKC is now supporting itself through registration of puppy mill puppies. They make money from people overbreeding and selling unaltered animals.

So apparently the AKC has been opposing mandatory spay neuter laws on behalf of its puppy mill breeders.

And the puppy mill registration money also supports the fancy dog shows and whatnot.

And a lot of them don't want to be licensed because they are not disclosing the numbers of animals they are selling.

Apprently many of these breeders are not following laws, including tax laws.

This was most enlightening!

It really is all about the money.

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