Gas prices above $5 a gallon are seen...

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There are 26 comments on the LoHud story from Apr 23, 2011, titled Gas prices above $5 a gallon are seen on a sign at a gas station in.... In it, LoHud reports that:

There is no magic wand that will bring down the price of gasoline, which has once again crossed the $4 mark.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#21 Apr 25, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
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This should already be happening in the case of synfuel from coal vs refined fuel from petroleum. But it's not. Why?
Because nobody is going to build the stupid and expensive conversion plants (at very marginal economics) when they can easily be make junk piles by a shift to nuclear, natural gas, wind, solar, geothermal, etc.

Investors are either backing crude oil (based on the expectations of $200 barrel windfalls) or alternative energy (based on long term planning and not wanting to wreck the economy for some short term gain).

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#22 Apr 25, 2011
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Because nobody is going to build the stupid and expensive conversion plants (at very marginal economics) when they can easily be make junk piles by a shift to nuclear, natural gas, wind, solar, geothermal, etc.
Investors are either backing crude oil (based on the expectations of $200 barrel windfalls) or alternative energy (based on long term planning and not wanting to wreck the economy for some short term gain).
As I understand it, the profit/loss number is $55/bbl of oil. We passed that some time ago. Nuclear's not likely to get a jump start from the March 11th Tsunami in Japan, a few fleet operations run on natural gas, solar has a possible nitch in residential, wind depends on subsidies and geothermal is very limited as is hydroelectric.

Synfuel hss limitations too, but it needs to be part of the mix.
LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#23 Apr 25, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
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As I understand it, the profit/loss number is $55/bbl of oil. We passed that some time ago.
For an EXISTING plant (capital investment paid for). To make investors want to BUILD a plant, requires at least 25% ROI for at least thirty to fourty years. And nobody is handing out any guarantees.
Steve Case wrote:
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Nuclear's not likely to get a jump start from the March 11th Tsunami in Japan,
Actually it has highlighted the improbable nature of any OTHER energy supply for Japan. The don't have the land for wind or solar, and cannot afford to generate electricity on fossil fuel imports. Nuclear is the ONLy cheap option. As well, there are many SAFER nuclear technologies that would NOT have had the problems of the Fuji.. plant. Nor are many countries on the edge of three shifting plates and in danger of a magnitude 9 earthquake followed by a 7 meter tsunami.

I highly recommend that Japan look towards the CANDU 6 technology which can be shut down and cooled 'passively' if power and pumping are shut down by flooding or any OTHER unforseen problem.

Or they can wait and make more gambles on US 'active safety' systems to up the gamble. But they are very unlikely to move away from nuclear. They CAN'T really. Not without bankrupting the economy with high priced imported fuels.
Steve Case wrote:
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a few fleet operations run on natural gas, solar has a possible nitch in residential, wind depends on subsidies and geothermal is very limited as is hydroelectric.
Synfuel hss limitations too, but it needs to be part of the mix.
It probably will be but of limited scope no more than biofuels. And the mix will change as investors shift their bets.

“Be green. Help the planet.”

Since: Mar 11

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#24 Apr 26, 2011
Old Smoke wrote:
If EVERYONE would just slow down & conserve a little gas on every drive, that would help. Seems no one can slow down anymore. The speed limit should be set to 55 or 60 & have strict enforcement.
I agree. People should conserve more, that's the other solution. We're so caught up in the supply side of fossil fuels that we forget that taking a walk, car pooling or planning weekly trips can help reduce our oil use.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#25 Apr 26, 2011
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
You mean everything to do with the subject like the 'gallons of gas equivalent' to the natural gas the poster was suggesting as replacing gasoline?
So when are you going to catch up with the subject so that you can make an intelligent post?
The day you learn to write intelligibly.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#26 Apr 26, 2011
Maxie007 wrote:
I agree. People should conserve more, that's the other solution. We're so caught up in the supply side of fossil fuels that we forget that taking a walk, car pooling or planning weekly trips can help reduce our oil use.
You're right:
"At the same time, many European countries, such as the United Kingdom, Germany, and France, have comparable standards of living to the United States but emit only half as much carbon dioxide per person."

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