Gas prices above $5 a gallon are seen...

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There are 26 comments on the LoHud story from Apr 23, 2011, titled Gas prices above $5 a gallon are seen on a sign at a gas station in.... In it, LoHud reports that:

There is no magic wand that will bring down the price of gasoline, which has once again crossed the $4 mark.

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“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#1 Apr 23, 2011
Would someone care to tell me when the price of anything last went down for any extended period?
Oil producing countries have bills to pay too.
This stuff doesn't come cheap:
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LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#2 Apr 23, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
Would someone care to tell me when the price of anything last went down for any extended period?
When they developed ALTERNATIVE sources. Check out the price of whale oil. Then the price of kerosene. Kerosene displaced whale oil when the price of whale oil kept climbing. And the price of whale oil crashed because nobody was 'over a barrel' any more.

Same with alternative energy sources. They will displace crude oil as crude oil starts costing MORE than the alternatives.
Fun Facts

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Apr 23, 2011
Natural gas. We have government fleets of autos running on natural gas. We also have huge supplies of natural gas here in the US. What we don't have is a distribution system.

Looking at whale oil and kerosene, could be a good way of looking at replacing our use of oil with natural gas. We have the natural gas, there is no reason for us to pay any other country for oil when we have enough of our own natural gas.

We also already have vehicles that are engineered to run on natural gas. And switching from oil to natural gas in a vehicle is not all that difficult.

Why would we spend time and money to re-engineer an oil/gasoline burning vehicle, when we could simply produce that which is already working.

Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#4 Apr 23, 2011
Fun Facts wrote:
Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
So you say that continuing a fossil fuel economy in the fact of such crippling problems is insane?

You may be right, but your solution is wrong. Total reserves run to about 50 years supply of gasoline at current usage, BUT

1: It would generate MASSIVE problems with pollution from drilling and fracking.

2: The CH4 emissions are a MUCH worse global warming problem ( CH4 has a much higher GWP) than CO2.

3: The only thing that keeps Natural Gas in a RELATIVELY cheap position is distribution problems which limit demand and therefore the price you can charge.. so you would soon see the same prices on natural gas.. or any other fuel that is in limited demand with control and ownership by a semi-monopoly.
Fun Facts

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Apr 23, 2011
Not worried about the price of natural gas, free market capitalist here.

I want to be energy independent of those countries who would hold us hostage to our energy needs.

We can import oil from Canada as long as Canada will produce it and sell it to us. It's the political situation of the Middle East that gives me heartburn.

I am in no way opposed to oil, coal and natural gas. I am not opposed to alternative energy, except ethanol. I am opposed to ethanol.

I have not bought into the hype that burning fossil fuels causes climate change. There is no science that can provide evidence that burning fossil fuels causes climate change.

We have a supply of natural gas, we have the technology to use natural gas in our vehicles. Why force our economy to continue to be reliant on oil by requiring changes to mitigate the oil usage, when we have another source of energy that is independent of oil.
Fun Facts

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Apr 23, 2011
Just tagging the thread

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#7 Apr 23, 2011
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Total reserves run to about 50 years supply of gasoline at current usage
Two mistakes there.
"50 years supply" is a wild guess.
"Current usage" suggests that you don't believe in progress that will inevitably move away from oil usage, which makes you a dinosaur.
BTW:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2hozrpu.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2iavbzs.jpg
bronck burger

Fair Lawn, NJ

#8 Apr 23, 2011
JUST MAKE A POT of my LIMBURGER CHEESE MEAT-MILK PIE W/PRUNE SURPRIZE and YOU ALL WILL have plenty of NATURAL GAS.
LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#9 Apr 24, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Two mistakes there.
"50 years supply" is a wild guess.
"Current usage" suggests that you don't believe in progress that will inevitably move away from oil usage, which makes you a dinosaur.
BTW:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2hozrpu.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2iavbzs.jpg
It is a simple calculation of 'reserves' of Natural gas, the 'gallon of gas equivalence' and the current usage of gasoline.

That you cannot follow such simple calculations just shows how you are incapable of serious thought.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#10 Apr 24, 2011
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
It is a simple calculation of 'reserves' of Natural gas, the 'gallon of gas equivalence' and the current usage of gasoline.
You have nothing specific to base a '50 year' figure on, apart from guesswork.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
That you cannot follow such simple calculations just shows how you are incapable of serious thought.
"Simple" is the word I'd use for that particular calculation, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.

LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#11 Apr 24, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You have nothing specific to base a '50 year' figure on, apart from guesswork.
All three inputs are facts, not 'guesswork'.
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Simple" is the word I'd use for that particular calculation, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
Yes. Simple math that you apparently cannot follow.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#12 Apr 24, 2011
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
All three inputs are facts, not 'guesswork'.
No one knows how much crude oil is still available or stil to be discovered, so it's pure guesswork, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#13 Apr 24, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>No one knows how much crude oil is still available or stil to be discovered, so it's pure guesswork, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
Senility. Got to be..

What part of "Natural Gas" did you not understand?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#14 Apr 25, 2011
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Senility. Got to be..
What part of "Natural Gas" did you not understand?
This part:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Total reserves run to about 50 years supply of gasoline at current usage

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#15 Apr 25, 2011
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
When they developed ALTERNATIVE sources. Check out the price of whale oil. Then the price of kerosene. Kerosene displaced whale oil when the price of whale oil kept climbing. And the price of whale oil crashed because nobody was 'over a barrel' any more.
Same with alternative energy sources. They will displace crude oil as crude oil starts costing MORE than the alternatives.
This should already be happening in the case of synfuel from coal vs refined fuel from petroleum. But it's not. Why?
Old Smoke

Rocky Ford, CO

#16 Apr 25, 2011
If EVERYONE would just slow down & conserve a little gas on every drive, that would help. Seems no one can slow down anymore. The speed limit should be set to 55 or 60 & have strict enforcement.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#17 Apr 25, 2011
We tried that once, people didn't like it. Forcing a slowdown to 55 on roads designed for 70 is ridiculous.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#18 Apr 25, 2011
Old Smoke wrote:
If EVERYONE would just slow down & conserve a little gas on every drive, that would help. Seems no one can slow down anymore. The speed limit should be set to 55 or 60 & have strict enforcement.
Vehicle fuel efficiency and over-sized vehicles is a bigger problem.
Don't drive so often or take those unnecessary trips to the 7/11 for one or two items in the car.
Consider a smaller car when you next decide to replace it.
Then tell Obama and all the other big shots to lead by example if they want Joe public to follow suit.
Are all those lights necessary for the White House, Parliament and all the other official buildings around the world?
Who cares if the Eiffel Tower isn't lit at 04:00 hrs?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#19 Apr 25, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
We tried that once, people didn't like it. Forcing a slowdown to 55 on roads designed for 70 is ridiculous.
Agreed, I drove from LA to NY when the 55 limit was in force, what a drag that was without a CB radio, although I caught a few 'tows' up to 110 from guys who had one, dodging Old Smokey along the way.
LessHypeMoreFact

Nepean, Canada

#20 Apr 25, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>This part:<quoted text>
You mean everything to do with the subject like the 'gallons of gas equivalent' to the natural gas the poster was suggesting as replacing gasoline?

So when are you going to catch up with the subject so that you can make an intelligent post?

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