Why African Americans aren't embracing Occupy Wall Street

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View Photo Gallery - November 2011:The movement, which started Sept. 17 with a few dozen demonstrators who tried to pitch tents in front of the New York Stock Exchange, has spread to cities around the world.
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The article didn't even mention the most important reason African-Americans are not much more prominent in the demonstrations, marches, ect.
They have much more to lose than Anglos if they are identified victims of police brutality, some viral video, arrested, ect.
True enought 25 years of CRIMINAL BLACK RAP HIP-HOP THUG Music that influences youth to committ crime makes for 9% of the Black population being 50% of the prison population.

What would MLK think to see more Blacks in jail because of their OWN policy and mentality than the civil wrong days of the 60's.
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Seriously Jim, which is it? I hear Blacks are lazy, welfare recipients and government dependents. I hear Blacks are smart, own a lot, and control and influence much. Whites define Blacks depending on the heat of the moment. Which is it? Do Blacks have that much power or are they lazy government recipients?
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How much MONEY do Lib Progressives make constantly telling and ranting about 9% of the MAJORITY population?????
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Black Publications.
*About Time Magazine
*African American Golfers Digest
*African Americans OnWheels
*American Legacy Magazine
*Black Bride & Groom Magazine
*Black Collegian Magazine
*Black Enterprise Magazine
*Black Family Digest
*Black Issues Book Review
*Black MBA Magazine
*Black Men Magazine
*Crisis Magazine
*Cuisine Noir Magazine
*Black Issues in Higher Education
*DiversityInc Magazine
*Ebony
*Jet
*Essence Magazine
*Giant Magazine
*Gospel Truth Magazine
*Grace Today Magazine
*Harlem World Magazine
*HBCU Connect - The Magazine
*Young Urban Viewz
*XXL Magazine
*Vibe Magazine
*Upscale Magazine
*Turning Point Magazine
*Today's Black Woman Magazine
*The Source Magazine
*The Network Journal
*The Green Magazine (golf magazine for AA)
*Target Market News Magazine
*Shereese Magazine
*Sister 2 Sister Magazine
*Right On Magazine
*Real Health Magazine
*New Vision (NV) Magazine
*Monarch Magazine
*King Magazine
*Journey To Wellness Magazine
*Hope Today Magazine
*Homes of Color Magazine
*Hip Hop Weekly
*Heart and Soul Magazine
...All one has to do is look up black magazine on the internet & count. blackpr dot com lists most of these.
If blacks don't have their own hair care products, then you have the opportunity to market towards 51,500,000 Negro Americans without competition. Yet you choose not to, which is characteristic of your race.
For thousands of years the Negro walked upon the richest ground, but never took time to polish the diamonds or to strike the gold into coins.
The walked under the mightiest trees, yet would not bother to construct solid shelter or to build ships.
The lived among the mightiest rivers, yet did not take the effort to dig canals to provide water to their villages.
A thousand years of civilization was left out, thats WHY!

An immigrant asian person told me that blacks should be GLAD to be here, no matter how they got here in the past!!!!!!!!!!

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First, I'm mixed race, so I see both sides of the issue. Second, you harbor a lot of anger towards Blacks, let's say personal anger. If Blacks got on this website and spewed such hatred you'd be yelling racist. Now look at what you are posting. You posted a long post about the achievements of Blacks, then contradicted yourself by saying what a burden Blacks are to society. Blacks, like any other race, have their share of people who make tremendous contributions (Colin Powell, Bill Cosby, The Johnson Family); and then there are those who can't get past their problems. You blame an entire race no matter what. I have a white father, black mother, see this type of anger all the time. Maybe you should look at the man in the mirror first.
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69.1% of black babies are born to a single parent home. 21.5% of these births are by under aged teenagers ( cdc.gov ) 62% of all black births is paid for by welfare. By race, blacks are 4 1/2 times more likely to be on welfare than Whites (failure of race relations in contemporary America).
So why is the black race so dependent on welfare even though they attend the same schools, live in the same neighborhoods, attend & use the same public resources, etc...?
Is it because they drop out of high school at a rate 50 times greater than Whites? Is it because 32% of all black males in their 20's are in prison, parole or probation?(Dept. of Justice) Is it because 51% of all black males will be charged with at least one felony in their lifetime?( fbi.gov ) Is it because blacks on average have an I.Q. 15 points lower than that of Whites?
We would like to know the answer so that your race can become an asset rather than a burden on society. We asked your race "what do you need?". You said recognition for our history, so you were given Black History month. You said that you need financial aid for college, and you are given the Negro College Fund. You said that you need employment opportunities, so you were given affirmative action and EO laws. You say that you needed representation, so you were given the Black Caucus of Congress, even though the POTUS is a negro. You say that you need unsegregated schools and resources, and this was provided.
Yet, the drop out rates, the crime rates, the welfare rates, etc... remains unchanged and are actually increasing.
Rather than working together for the betterment of your race, your race prefers to use the "race card" or other practices as an excuse. Rather than working together to reconstruct your homes, your race resorts to looting, mobs and riots.
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jenny623 wrote:
First, I'm mixed race, so I see both sides of the issue. Second, you harbor a lot of anger towards Blacks, let's say personal anger. If Blacks got on this website and spewed such hatred you'd be yelling racist. Now look at what you are posting. You posted a long post about the achievements of Blacks, then contradicted yourself by saying what a burden Blacks are to society. Blacks, like any other race, have their share of people who make tremendous contributions (Colin Powell, Bill Cosby, The Johnson Family); and then there are those who can't get past their problems. You blame an entire race no matter what. I have a white father, black mother, see this type of anger all the time. Maybe you should look at the man in the mirror first.
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The black community is its own worst enemy and lagging even further behind every day,by its own choice and accord.
This is a very disturbing trend that eventually needs to be rectified.
Statistics aren't racist nor do they lie,even if the final numbers are tallied up by a white man.
America badly needs what the black community has to offer to society,but not the brand of contributions they are currently offering.

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Okay, and since Whites are so smart and productive, they should NEVER be committing crimes? Right? We should never ever see a white person in trouble. Makes no sense.

Have you taken the time to look beyond the statistics at the reasons? Lack of education and poverty goes hand in hand with crime. If you educate people and give them the same playing ground, you'll get positive results. Urban schools with a majority of minories are the least funded. Kids aren't prepared for college or decent jobs. That keeps them out of the playing field to be productive citizens and pushes them into crime. Educated people are more productive, contributing citizens and that's been proven for all races. Look at all the undeveloped nations and what do they have in common - lack of education, lots of crime.
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The black community is its own worst enemy and lagging even further behind every day,by its own choice and accord.
This is a very disturbing trend that eventually needs to be rectified.
Statistics aren't racist nor do they lie,even if the final numbers are tallied up by a white man.
America badly needs what the black community has to offer to society,but not the brand of contributions they are currently offering.
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Okay, and since Whites are so smart and productive, they should NEVER be committing crimes? Right? We should never ever see a white person in trouble. Makes no sense.
Have you taken the time to look beyond the statistics at the reasons? Lack of education and poverty goes hand in hand with crime. If you educate people and give them the same playing ground, you'll get positive results. Urban schools with a majority of minories are the least funded. Kids aren't prepared for college or decent jobs. That keeps them out of the playing field to be productive citizens and pushes them into crime. Educated people are more productive, contributing citizens and that's been proven for all races. Look at all the undeveloped nations and what do they have in common - lack of education, lots of crime.
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Inner city schools do not get less Federal funding than any other schools in the nation.
Private donations are a seperate issue.
I agree that less educated people are more inclined to commit more crime.
But I see no other race that resists education on the premise that doing so would be acting too white.
Recovery needs to start at home with the family.
In the 1960's two parent homes were in the 80 percentile in the black community.
Nobody other than the black community changed that.
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It IS odd, given black unemployment, that there aren't more black protestors. Maybe they HAVE simply given up, I don't know.

But the racial context of statements like the one by Thandiwe is disturbing, although she may just be the product of academic African American Studies departments. Imagine if you changed the context and a white commentator was dismissing black civil rights protestors in the '50s and '60s:

'The Civil Rights Movement was started by blacks and is about their concern with their plight. Now that democracy isnít working for "everybody," some are protesting.'

Instead, whites joined with blacks in seeking civil rights, to the benefit of all. Shouldn't we be doing this again, NOW?
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..blah, blah.... I am a Klansman and as such the race card or racist comments does not repel me, but serves as a "dinner bell" so to speak.
If you re-read my postings..blah, blah...
Your admission that you are a member of a notorious racist hate group disqualifies you from comment on the topic, and your post has been reported as racist to Topix monitors.

Go somewhere else and spread your poison, Klan thug.
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How much MONEY do Lib Progressives make constantly telling and ranting about 9% of the MAJORITY population?????
How much are you making for posting dumb, reactionary partisan drivel under a racist nickname, Bum?
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First, I'm mixed race, so I see both sides of the issue. Second, you harbor a lot of anger towards Blacks, let's say personal anger. If Blacks got on this website and spewed such hatred you'd be yelling racist. Now look at what you are posting. You posted a long post about the achievements of Blacks, then contradicted yourself by saying what a burden Blacks are to society. Blacks, like any other race, have their share of people who make tremendous contributions (Colin Powell, Bill Cosby, The Johnson Family); and then there are those who can't get past their problems. You blame an entire race no matter what. I have a white father, black mother, see this type of anger all the time. Maybe you should look at the man in the mirror first.
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He's an admitted Klansman and hater, it's not like you're going to get rational discussion out of him. His mind is poisoned.
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You do realize that the term "hate group" was derived form special interest groups and does not exist in law enforcement or the judicial system, and that the Ku Klux Klan is a recognized Civil Rights group under the same protections as the ADL, SPLC, NAACP, etc...? Somewhat ironic that the very laws you demanded are the same ones that extend to us as well.
I realize that you're a racist liar and have already been reported for fouling these boards with your racist, hateful posts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

"Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as the Klan.... The current manifestation is splintered into several chapters and is classified as a hate group.[11]"

Further, the Klan has created links to other racists and thugs through Stormfront:

"In 1995, Don Black and ChloÍ Hardin, former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke's ex-wife, began a small bulletin board system (BBS) called Stormfront. Today, Stormfront has become a prominent online forum for white nationalism, Neo-Nazism, hate speech, racism, and antisemitism.[129][130][131] Duke has an account on Stormfront which he uses to post articles from his own website, as well as polling forum members for opinions and questions, in particular during his internet broadcasts. Duke has worked with Don Black on numerous projects including Operation Red Dog in 1980."

Satan's Children, or so I would believe if I believed in Satan...

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Thanks. I'm done wasting my time. If Blacks spewed such hateful posts it would not be tolerated. Sadly, there are soldiers dying just so some of us have the right to be hateful. If I have to chose a race, I choose the human race. I don't find that skin color has anything to do with intelligence or respect. I agree with Dr. King - content of character says it all.
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He's an admitted Klansman and hater, it's not like you're going to get rational discussion out of him. His mind is poisoned.
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jenny623 wrote:
Thanks. I'm done wasting my time. If Blacks spewed such hateful posts it would not be tolerated. Sadly, there are soldiers dying just so some of us have the right to be hateful. If I have to chose a race, I choose the human race. I don't find that skin color has anything to do with intelligence or respect. I agree with Dr. King - content of character says it all.
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Agreed - with you AND Dr. King!:)

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First, I'm mixed race, so I see both sides of the issue. Second, you harbor a lot of anger towards Blacks, let's say personal anger. If Blacks got on this website and spewed such hatred you'd be yelling racist. Now look at what you are posting. You posted a long post about the achievements of Blacks, then contradicted yourself by saying what a burden Blacks are to society. Blacks, like any other race, have their share of people who make tremendous contributions (Colin Powell, Bill Cosby, The Johnson Family); and then there are those who can't get past their problems. You blame an entire race no matter what. I have a white father, black mother, see this type of anger all the time. Maybe you should look at the man in the mirror first.
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Once you have black in you there is no mixed race about it. You are black...and thats all we need to know
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Because it is a selfish, White liberal movement.
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brad wrote:
AA's don't seem to support anything.
Look at the crowds at an NBA,MLB or NFL game,almost all white,college sporting events also.
Even rap concerts are mostly white kids.
They cheer at home....and buy their kicks...to be Like Mike. LOL
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jenny623 wrote:
First, I'm mixed race, so I see both sides of the issue. Second, you harbor a lot of anger towards Blacks, let's say personal anger. If Blacks got on this website and spewed such hatred you'd be yelling racist. Now look at what you are posting. You posted a long post about the achievements of Blacks, then contradicted yourself by saying what a burden Blacks are to society. Blacks, like any other race, have their share of people who make tremendous contributions (Colin Powell, Bill Cosby, The Johnson Family); and then there are those who can't get past their problems. You blame an entire race no matter what. I have a white father, black mother, see this type of anger all the time. Maybe you should look at the man in the mirror first.
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They do....go to the AA forum....every thread slams white folks.....and watch them all jump on the bandwagon. Too freakin funny.
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Thanks. Now list all the things Whites have. I'll get started...
*The other 11 months
*History books focused on how whites conquered America
*Private foundations and funding
*Heads of most fortune 500 corporations
*Congress is predominately white (sorry if a little group like the Black Caucus makes you nervous)...
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Yawn....now name something that is totally devoted to whites

other 11 months...you're a joke
History books....you need to read more books
Private foundations and funding...blacks have that
Head of F 500 Companies....not confined to whites, whats your excuse
White Caucus??? NAACP would be all over that. Oh, wait thats a BLACK group.
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And here I figured AAs weren't embracing OWS because they'd worked out, like the rest of us, that OWS are a ridiculous waste of time and taxpayer money with no actual agenda. I hadn't realized it was so deep.
But I will say between Jenny and Jim, I was enjoying a conversation that was thoughtful and intelligible and hadn't dissolved into name calling. But then Harvey showed up and this thread became like every other one on here. No points or facts, just name calling.
Typical.

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