Funeral home sues for right to dissolve bodies | The Columbus Dispatch

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The first U.S. funeral home to publicly offer a cremation alternative that dissolves bodies with lye and heat has filed a lawsuit alleging Ohio regulators don't have authority to block it from using the procedure.

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Gorgo

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Meh wrote:
not much punishment.
Makes my skin crawl to think of liquified bodies flushed into the sewer system.
You don't mess with zombies!
It's just not my cup of tea.
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Pyss on the losers! Wankers!
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After reviewing the objectives made by Mr. Edwards, Jeffrey L. Edwards was charged with a violation of Section 4717.14(A)(4)of the Revised Code, for committing immoral or unprofessional conduct; specifically for withholding $2033.00 from a preneed contract for $3162.64 for which the licensees did not provide funeral services; only transferring $1153.83 of the total amount received for the preneed contract to the estate of the deceased.
The following motions were made pursuant to the report and recommendation of hearing office, Marc E. Myers, on the hearing held November 18, 2005 concerning violations previously listed.
Motion by Mr. Hadley, seconded by Mr. Primm, to approved the Hearing Officer’s finding of facts: Roll call vote: DeJohn, Aye; Hadley, Aye; Jones, Aye; Primm, Aye; Shank, Aye; Tunnell, Aye.
Motion by Mr. Hadley, seconded by Mr. Jones to approved the Hearing Officer’s Conclusions of Law: Roll call vote: DeJohn, Aye; Hadley, Aye; Jones, Aye; Primm, Aye; Shank, Aye; Tunnell, Aye.
Motion by Mr. Hadley, seconded by Mr. Jones to approve the Hearing Officer’s Recommendation: Roll call vote: DeJohn, Aye; Hadley, Aye; Jones, Aye; Primm, Aye; Shank, Aye; Tunnell, Aye.
The Board order the suspension of embalmer license no. 9059 A and funeral director license no. 8960 held by Jeffrey L. Edwards be suspended beginning March 30, 2006 and ending April 30, 2006.
Don't forget to mention the fact that I was pulled over and given a speeding ticket in November 2001 for doing 61 MPH in a Construction zone of 55 MPH in Cincinnati, Ohio.

and...and... that incident back in 1980 when that grouchy sheriff's deputy questioned me about winging new rolls of toilet paper up into the tree's of a friends home. I still MAINTAIN MY INNOCENCE!
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WHAT will they find next that they are putting in the water we drink????
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CycledLife, manufacturer of alkaline hydrolysis systems, sold Jeff Edwards his system. We are appalled that the ODH denied an Ohioan a basic human right: to honor his dead. To date, only one out of over 500 families that have had the option to choose either an alkali disposition or a cremation stuck with cremation. Under the ORC: 2108.70 (3) and 3705.01, Ohioans have the right to choose how they wish to “go”. Unless laws to the contrary are passed, alkaline hydrolysis is legal in OH. Families and funeral directors must comply with existing laws. The ODH, an executive branch of government, has no authority to create laws to protect the status quo in the funeral industry. Please consider showing your support for Jeff Edwards and the family that he is fighting to serve by allowing Edwards Funeral Service, in Columbus, OH, to serve your family. Forcing the decedent’s husband to burn his wife and mother of his three children is a shameful act on the part of OH’s government regulators.

The ODH’s decision to shut down Edwards Funeral Service’s alkali disposition option has caused further pain for the decedents’ families who authorized this process. It is most unfortunate for those who live near the crematories in OH, as Columbus families will have little choice but to burn their dead. The resultant public health issues from cremation should be the concern of the ODH, not a process that reduces all or most of the harm caused by other forms of dispositions.

Hopefully the greed exhibited by the funeral directors on the board will not be lost on the public. It would be wonderful gesture, if Ohioans boycotted and canceled pre-need policies with the self-serving funeral directors and the funeral homes and crematories owned by those on the board. In particular, Ohioans should take away any business from Robert C. Carter & Assoc.. Robert C. Carter is a board member. His firm was losing business to Edwards Funeral Service. Robert C. Carter makes a living providing embalming and cremations for other funeral homes in the Columbus area. With 100% of cremation families choosing an alkali disposition, it is easy to see why he wanted Jeff Edwards to stop serving families in “his” market. The funeral industry is a zero sum game. By Edwards offering families a better alternative to cremation, Carter necessarily losses business. If Carter were to let Jeff Edwards provide families with a better option, Carter would eventually go out of business. Cremation releases mercury, an element when vaporized that is second only in toxicity to radioactive material. This is not a trivial matter for those that care about their survivors. When you die, those you leave behind will be the most vulnerable. The sooner Carter’s cremation and embalming business fails the better off future generations will be in OH.
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I bet Schedinger funeral home has complained about this, too. There would be less grieving people to pay for their dorky commercials.
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The National Funeral Director's Association seems to be supportive, its the local funeral homes that don't because they won't MAKE money off of this, they will LOSE money.
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This is a new approach.
Why not investigate the environmental and infrastructure ramifications before committing ourselves.
If Edwards is smart, he'll get other funeral directors to contribute to his cause. If they won't support him, then there is probably something wrong with this effort.
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We should have the Ohio National Guard get all of the fish out of our Lakes and Rivers immediately. They shit, piss and die in there. I hope everyone on here is a Vegan.
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Waste Sucks wrote:
I don't see why we have to be telling people what they can and cannot do all the time. If the "waste" or "byproduct"(not sure what to call it) is the issue, I understand their might be problems. If it is just the fact that this method is not the norm or considered taboo, people need to lighten up. The person who would make the decision between burial and cremation should have the right to choose anything so long as it isn't harmful to anyone else.
I have to agree to the point of what is the effect of dumping the chemicals and reamins contained in them in the sewer. There should be a fairly quick study of of those and a timley decision made. If they can legally dispose of annimals that way, I would think this has already been determined and thus case settled.
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I work for a local hospital and deal with lots of families when people die. If you want to save money and have options you dont go to places like Schedinger. They are so expensive for no reason and they can't help the people on our floor who dont have much money. And their owner is rude. We have used Edwards funeral home a bunch of times and they work with people to help them save money and still have a nice funeral. Bigger funeral homes push the less fortunate on the smaller funeral homes all the time, but no one is doing an article about that. Dont people realize that all the stuff from the bodies goes down the drain anyway when they are embalmed? Funerals are a money making business, its just that some of them are making a lot more than others. Those that are trying to really serve our families need to be seen in a good light not a bad one just because of the sewer system. Everything gets flushed down there with every funeral home.
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My sister passed away February 22 and chose to have this process done to her remains. Check out this link so you can educate yourselves on the process. There is no DNA or hazardous pollutants in the water after Aquamation, the water is neutralized with vinegar or citrus rendering it harmless, all that remains are nutrients.
http://www.aquamation.info/index.html
Burring a body: after time the container the body is in (a coffin) breaks down and water infiltrates it and the embalming fluid (formaldehyde) gets introduces into ground water polluting it, in Holland a body can't be embalmed for that reason.
The emissions from crematories include nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, mercury, hydrofluoric acid (HF#, hydrochloric acid #HCl# in addition to persistent organic pollutants #POP).into the atmosphere, which in turn returns to the ground contaminating the soil.
The trend toward more "green" funerals and burials is rooted in being more environmentally friendly, as well as, lowering costs. For example, each year, 22,500 cemeteries across the United States bury approximately 827,060 gallons of embalming fluid which includes formaldehyde and other hazardous chemicals. Buried caskets contain 90,272 tons of steel, 2,700 tons of copper and bronze and 30-plus million board feet of hardwoods. Cremation and burial vaults contain 1,636,000 tons of reinforced concrete and 14,000 tons of steel. These statistics were complied from some very reliable sources which include: Casket and Funeral Association of America, Cremation Association of North America, Doric Inc., The Rainforest Action Network, and Mary Woodsen, Pre-Posthumous Society.
In addition, Casket manufacturers are listed on the EPA’s top 50 hazardous waste generators list due to chemicals such as methyl and xylene used in the protective finish sprayed on the caskets exterior. On a segment of a Fresh Air interview on NPR, Mark Harris, author of "Grave Matters: Journey Through the Modern Funeral Industry to a Natural Way of Burial" told host Terry Gross that the amount of wood from coffins located in a ten-acre cemetery is enough to build 40 houses and that there is enough concrete to build swimming pools for all of them.
There is no DNA at all in the water after Aquamation, the water is neutralized with vinegar or citrus rendering it harmless, all that remains are nutrients.
I guess when the EPA investigates the real pollution and environmental issues regarding this process and find that it has no negative impact on the environment whereas cremation and burials do, scrubbers for crematorium smoke stacks will be required and burials will have to be done in a completely sealed a leak proof coffin and vault or bodies can no longer be embalmed.
As for the folks on here that make their uninformed comments, try educating yourselves first
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As for the tasteless and hurtful comments, one day you too will loose someone you love dearly and I hope you don't have to suffer the ignorant and hurtful remarks made by people.
I love you Debby and miss you so much.
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My sister passed away February 22 and chose to have this process done to her remains. Check out this link so you can educate yourselves on the process. There is no DNA or hazardous pollutants in the water after Aquamation, the water is neutralized with vinegar or citrus rendering it harmless, all that remains are nutrients.

http://www.aquamation.info/index.html

Burring a body: after time the container the body is in (a coffin) breaks down and water infiltrates it and the embalming fluid (formaldehyde) gets introduces into ground water polluting it, in Holland a body can't be embalmed for that reason.

The emissions from crematories include nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, mercury, hydrofluoric acid (HF), hydrochloric acid (HCl) in addition to persistent organic pollutants (POP).into the atmosphere, which in turn returns to the ground contaminating the soil.

The trend toward more "green" funerals and burials is rooted in being more environmentally friendly, as well as, lowering costs. For example, each year, 22,500 cemeteries across the United States bury approximately 827,060 gallons of embalming fluid which includes formaldehyde and other hazardous chemicals. Buried caskets contain 90,272 tons of steel, 2,700 tons of copper and bronze and 30-plus million board feet of hardwoods. Cremation and burial vaults contain 1,636,000 tons of reinforced concrete and 14,000 tons of steel. These statistics were complied from some very reliable sources which include: Casket and Funeral Association of America, Cremation Association of North America, Doric Inc., The Rainforest Action Network, and Mary Woodsen, Pre-Posthumous Society.

In addition, Casket manufacturers are listed on the EPA’s top 50 hazardous waste generators list due to chemicals such as methyl and xylene used in the protective finish sprayed on the caskets exterior. On a segment of a Fresh Air interview on NPR, Mark Harris, author of "Grave Matters: Journey Through the Modern Funeral Industry to a Natural Way of Burial" told host Terry Gross that the amount of wood from coffins located in a ten-acre cemetery is enough to build 40 houses and that there is enough concrete to build swimming pools for all of them.

There is no DNA at all in the water after Aquamation, the water is neutralized with vinegar or citrus rendering it harmless, all that remains are nutrients.

I guess when the EPA investigates the real pollution and environmental issues regarding this process and find that it has no negative impact on the environment whereas cremation and burials do, scrubbers for crematorium smoke stacks will be required and burials will have to be done in a completely sealed a leak proof coffin and vault or bodies can no longer be embalmed.

As for the folks on here that make their uninformed comments, try educating your selves first
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As for the tasteless and hurtful comments, one day you too will loose someone you love dearly and I hope you don't have to suffer the ignorant and hurtful remarks made by people.

I love you Debby and miss you so much.
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To Jeff Edwards and the staff of Edwards Funeral Home, thank you for your support, kindness and carring out the wishes of my sister Debby. She chose the process of Aquamation over cremation because she didn't want to have a negative impact on the environment.
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I personally think ppl nd their family should be able to decidehow therir lovedonesareput away,i thnk it is a good alternative for cremation and i support edwards funeral home in all that they do.god bless!!
Rob Lowry New Haven Ct

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nichole spradlin wrote:
I personally think ppl nd their family should be able to decidehow therir lovedonesareput away,i thnk it is a good alternative for cremation and i support edwards funeral home in all that they do.god bless!!
Thank you Nicole
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Rob Lowry New Haven Ct wrote:
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Thank you Nicole
Mr. Edwards system is one of kind, and he obtained no permits or inspections for it to install it and operate it when he started in January of 2011. The public only has his word and the manufacturer's rep to support his claim that it does what it purports to do in a safe manner. Further the manufacturer openly admits that it discontinued this model.
Mr. Edwards he could not legally do what he did, and still be "first" which is apparently what his super-ego demanded. So he did it illegally. He disregarded the law in Ohio where he is licensed and operating, so now the law will judge him for his actions.
Your conclusions suggest that Mr. Edwards is above the law. You also seem to disregard the fact that true "professionals" - are held to a higher standard of conduct, and must comply with the law, not disregard it. He will be lucky if he is not criminally indicted for abuse of a corpse. Particularly, as to any family that was not fully informed that their relative was being rendered into the sewer system.
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Make solyent green and feed the poor nations of the world.
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Why aren't human bodies composted? It's the best way to re-cycle organic remains, eh? Composting on a large scale is just what terrarium Earth needs. Along with a rain catchment barrel, there should be a compost pile in every yard in Ohio.
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Joe Wilson wrote:
Alkaline hydrolysis has been used in Ohio for over 6 years for animal disposal by the ODA. It is a proven process with over 100 systems operating nationwide. It is an improvement in many ways to burning and is better for the environment. Learn more from the manufacturers of this type of process.
The choices are becoming air pollution, water pollution or fertilizer, who cares your dead.
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What goes around comes around! Follow Jeff Edwards history and employment.

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