Elizabeth Olten Murder Suspect To Rem...

Elizabeth Olten Murder Suspect To Remain In Juvenile Custody

There are 48 comments on the Fox2Now story from Oct 28, 2009, titled Elizabeth Olten Murder Suspect To Remain In Juvenile Custody. In it, Fox2Now reports that:

A teenage suspect in the slaying of a 9-year-old mid- Missouri girl will remain in juvenile custody while a judge decides whether the case should be tried in adult court.

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concerned citizen

Arlington Heights, IL

#1 Oct 28, 2009
she better be charged as an adult,scum like that do not deserve to walk this earth,regardless of being a teenager or not.
she decided to act like an adult,now she needs to face the consequences like an adult.
concerned mother

Fenton, MO

#2 Oct 28, 2009
I agree i think whether she if 15 or not she needs to be tried as an adult. If it was my 15 year old child and they killed someone i so would want them to be punished to the extent even if i couldn't see them for the rest of thier lives cause then they would know how harsh it is to kill someone. My hearfelt sympathy and prayers go out to the 9 year olds family i couldn't imagine loosing my children so young especially so close to the home. Olten family you are in my thoughts and prayers
Joe

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Oct 28, 2009
I have the deepest, heartfelt sympathy for the family of Elizabeth. The girl who killed her is 15. She is a child. She should be tried as a juvenile. Let's not double the tragedy. Our society should be about finding out what is wrong with a child who would do something like this and healing her. What does a crime like this say about the society we have developed. What are the reasons a young person would do this. Are there any factors that society can change to lessen the likelihood that future crimes like this will happen. But, to punish a 15 year old like an adult is sick regardless of the crime.
Justice

Houston, TX

#4 Oct 28, 2009
Joe, you are sick just to allow the crime to grow. So you are saying whoever wants to kill someone then just go hire a juvenile??? Because there are idiots like you in our society that's why a lot of justice can't be served!!!!!
The Duke

Houston, TX

#5 Oct 28, 2009
Right on, Justice. It's good to see a fellow Texican telling it like it is.....or should be.
concerned citizen

Arlington Heights, IL

#6 Oct 28, 2009
Joe, i bet you would be singing a different story,if this was your child that was murdered
by a 15 year old.Elizabeth did nothing to deserve this.at 15 years of age you are well aware of whats good and whats not.
This is the problem with todays society,children that are under 18,know the law,and know that there is a possibility of them being released as a juvenile after such a horrific crime,and don't feel
like their life will be ruined since they will be out of jail before they hit 18 years old.this is not fair at all,some kids are very smart,and plan these events,and im sure she planned to kill Elizabeth,and on thursday,unfortunately she got her wish.
i hope this 15 year old rots in hell,i feel sad for the people that are being compassionate with the 15 year old just because of her age,so if she was over 20 years old then it would be different??
i dont think so.
charge her as an adult please,Elizabeth's family deserves that.
very concerned mother

United States

#7 Oct 28, 2009
I agree with Joe. As horrible as this crime is, the suspect is in fact a child herself. I am sure we are going to hear about a laundry list of issues in this teens life. We all need to wake up as a society and realize that WE are responsible for raising our children with a sense of self worth, values and respect for themselves and others. We cannot count on daycare centers, schools or televisions to do this for us, it is our job as parents. My heart goes out to both families as it is a tragedy for all involved.
Amazed

Houston, TX

#8 Oct 28, 2009
I agree with very concerned mother. Take away her credit card, her cell phone prevlidges and ground her to her room for a couple of weeks. That will teach her to go around murdering little girls in cold blood.
concerned citizen

Arlington Heights, IL

#9 Oct 28, 2009
VERY CONCERNED MOTHER,AND AMAZED.YOU ARE SUCH HIPPOCRATES.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JUST BECAUSE OF HER AGE,YOU
ARE FEELING SORRY FOR HER.
please

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Oct 28, 2009
to stop all this from happening we need GOD back in our homes, hearts, schools and Country. Just look at what has happened since God has been kicked out of America. God answers knee mail.
glo

Granite City, IL

#11 Oct 28, 2009
This is yet another horrific story of a victim being assaulted and killed. And today another appears regarding a 15 year old girl that was viciously raped and left for dead. And what sickens and grieves me is that the purported professionals, whether they be psychiatrists or commentators, etc., have absolutely NO good advice to offer. The truth is that this country has lost its moral compass....There used to be a line and the people knew not only the difference between good and evil, but now that line is blurred. And the sad thing is that what is needed most is NOT being spoken of because it's not acceptable to people who have lost their way. If we do not return to fear of God, we will continue to fear man. plain and simple. While there has always been crime since the beginning of time, we are seeing an increase and it's predicted in the Word of God. "times will wax worse and worse' and 'the love of many will grow cold'. We must humble ourselves and repent or there will be no hope.
very concerned mother

United States

#12 Oct 28, 2009
Amazed wrote:
I agree with very concerned mother. Take away her credit card, her cell phone prevlidges and ground her to her room for a couple of weeks. That will teach her to go around murdering little girls in cold blood.
Amazed... She should be punished to the full extent of Juvenile Law..that is the debate here, whether or not she should be tried as an adult or juvenile.
Caitlin

Addison, IL

#13 Oct 28, 2009
I am appaled that this "child" is could be let off like a kid stealing candy. "Oh, you shouldn't do that, this is why..." This kid had plans to kill Elizabeth (it's on another report). You don't PLAN to kill someone and get let off because you're under 18. If you kill someone you need to deal with the consequences.
Susie

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Oct 28, 2009
Amazed wrote:
I agree with very concerned mother. Take away her credit card, her cell phone prevlidges and ground her to her room for a couple of weeks. That will teach her to go around murdering little girls in cold blood.
I LOVED that comment. Most parents don't even take away that much and sure don't ground them of couple of weeks. That would mean the parents would be stuck with them. She should be tryed as adult. Many 15 yr olds now days are like they are going on 25, so let her go ahead and be 25, someone said she was gothic anyway. No telling what she believes in.
We All Need To Help

United States

#15 Oct 28, 2009
This is another sad ending for two children. The one that is now with God and the other one yet to meet God and you adults think about this God loves them both. What angry I just read from Adult people, not heart ache but getting even coming out loud and clear. Why don't we as adults pray for our children. Did you every stop and think...what happen to the Child that committed this awful murder. It must have been worst than death for a 15 year old to be that angry. God help her and those of you that could be like her. May God watch over our children for they are really being hurt by adults.
glo

Granite City, IL

#16 Oct 28, 2009
We really all do need to pray for our children, without one doubt. It's not always the situation, however, that adults are hurting children. The boys that killed at Columbine came from parents that loved them. So we can see that even parental love for our children isn't enough. Our children must be taught the love of God first by their own parents. God's love, though, does include judgement for those who scorn Him. I know that's not what our human ears want to hear, but it's holy and just. God even gave us the law (ten commandments) so that we would KNOW what is good and what is evil. And through the love of Christ now He has written His law in our hearts to those who will believe in Christ Jesus. THIS is what is missing....no law in the hearts of lawlessness. Fathers and mothers have one major responsibility before God for their children and that is to teach them of Him so that they may be saved from this perverse generation. But you won't hear that from the tv pundits who try to figure out WHY we have crime... If the parents do not know the Lord, then they need to repent and seek Him.
concerned citizen

Arlington Heights, IL

#17 Oct 29, 2009
The discussion here is whether the 15 year old will be charged as an adult or not??
some of you seem to have gotten off of topic.
she should fully face her consequences,and suffer.
this is someone's little girl she took away forever.
Caitlin

Addison, IL

#18 Oct 29, 2009
In response to all the comments about God, God isn't going to bring Elizabeth back and God didn't prevent the 15-yr-old from killing her. I agree that God isn't in peoples lives enough, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't punish this girl for what she did.
patrick

Columbia, MO

#19 Oct 29, 2009
she is 15 and was well aware of what she was doing and should be tried as an adult and get punished fully. if she was seventeen she would have been tried as an adult no question there wouldnt be a review to see if she should, she obviously is a sick person and should be locked up and for "glo" just because some people dont have god in their lives doesnt mean they get murdered or commit murder this isnt a church noone needs your surman you should have sympathy for the 9 yo girls family not scold them for not having god in their lives god doesnt fix everything
glo

Granite City, IL

#20 Oct 29, 2009
My sympathy IS for the 9 year old girl, I think you are confused. What I'm trying to emphasize is that murdering 9 year old girls by 15 year old children is something that should NOT be happening... I'm not disagreeing at all that there shouldn't be some sort of punishment, I think you confused me with another reader... To continue my comment, If the 15 year old girl would've known the Lord, and feared HIM and loved HIM, she would not have had the heart to murder a 9 year old girl. This is happening too often and people are wringing their hands and looking everywhere else for answers and there are no other answers. Murder begins in the heart. Matthew 15:11 "It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man(woman or child)" (Jesus' own words) If people refuse to turn to the Lord for a new heart, these are sorts of things that happen. Not everyone murders, of course, but that still doesn't take away from the truth that God desires that we love and fear Him. THIS is what will make a check in hearts before we do awful things to one another... At the core of this murder is exactly what this posting is about. What's happened way too often is we deal with the AFTERMATH of crime and murderous acts (such as whether she should be tried as an adult) There is mercy with the Lord, there is also truth. Judge is a just God and all sin will be accounted for, sometimes in this life and always in the next. We have forgotten Him.

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