Bicyclist Killed While Riding On Stat...

Bicyclist Killed While Riding On State Highway Near Stillwater

There are 57 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Aug 16, 2010, titled Bicyclist Killed While Riding On State Highway Near Stillwater. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

Authorities say a 56-year-old bicyclist died after she was struck and killed while riding on the shoulder of a state highway near Stillwater, Oklahoma.

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DarnTootin

Tulsa, OK

#23 Aug 16, 2010
bicyclesRAroadhazard wrote:
<quoted text>STAY OFF OF THE ROADS.....most cyclist that are hit by cars, are hit because they on ROADS built for CARS. Just because you can legally be there doesnt mena that it is safe for them to be there.
They are also built for people who are not self-centered and have the ability to understand the world does not revolve around them and their gas-sucking cars. Maybe YOU need to stay off the roads!
justme

Fort Worth, TX

#24 Aug 16, 2010
Lots of ignorant people commenting here I see. Many of you need to learn the rules of the road before you get out there and endanger others due to your ignorance and selfishness.
Packing Heat

United States

#25 Aug 16, 2010
DarnTootin wrote:
<quoted text> Just the facts wrote:
Hundreds of miles of bike trails and you are riding on a highway??? Darwin finalist right here and you people want to feal sorry for him. This guy should have been on a bike trail end of story. <quoted text>
If you had actually read the story, you'd see it was a woman.
And miss a chance to win the Darwin Award? Not a chance! Those pesky little facts would just steal their thrill of an award and in this case, possibly 2 awards.
urmomma

Tulsa, OK

#26 Aug 16, 2010
It sounds like an accident. I find it sad that she lost her life and I feel sorry for the young man who hit her with his vehicle.
I dislike bikes on the roads, but I am still careful around them.
Mahlon

Shawnee, OK

#27 Aug 16, 2010
Apparently most of you have no idea of the location of this accident.Highway 51 is an eas-west highway. The north shoulder (west boud trafic) is extra wide (more than one lane wide) and is advertised and promoted as a bike route. It is commonly used for cyclist who ride out to I-35 and back to Stillwater. The woman killed and her husband have been avid cyclists for years and have taught bicycle safety and cycling merit bage in Boy Scouts. My be is THEY were obeying safe cycling rules AND the law as enforced by the Highway Patrol.

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Since: Jul 10

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#28 Aug 16, 2010
Just the facts wrote:
Hundreds of miles of bike trails and you are riding on a highway??? Darwin finalist right here and you people want to feal sorry for him. This guy should have been on a bike trail end of story.
Problem being, those trails aren't everywhere. I drive from Claremore to Broken Arrow to be able to ride my bike on the trails. I don't want to cause a wreck nor do I want to be in one.

There are a lot of plans for new bike trails in the area but even then they don't go everywhere and some people commute to work and such. You drivers are just going to have to be a little more patient and courteous...please!!!

As long as bikes have the legal right to ride on the street you can be charged if you hit them out of negligence or under the influence. I can't believe anyone would really run them over on purpose but I'm sure there are people that could do anything under the right circumstances.
Wabbit

Claremore, OK

#29 Aug 16, 2010
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Then stay off the road ride on bike trails!
Bike trails comment is off-topic. She was on the shoulder according to the article, which on some state highways, should be out of harms way for the majority of attentive drivers out there. There's no excuse for hitting a cyclist, motorcyclist, pedestrian or construction worker if a driver's attention is where it should be. Being mindful of others on the road, in construction zones, in crosswalks, and on sidewalks all are part of the privilege of having a driver's license. But, of course you already know this, you have a license don't you? Whatever happened to "Share the Road"?
Tulsan

Tulsa, OK

#30 Aug 16, 2010
Blue wrote:
The sun didn't cause him to "drift" onto the shoulder; when you kill someone with your vehicle, and you leave the roadway, you should be charged with murder.
Further, you should not be allowed to drive anymore. Bet this all would stop if laws like this were enacted! Everyone knows they will serve no time when they kill someone with their car; How much you bet he was on the phone? texting? He is 19 years old! Safe bet
And I bet you're some old fart who pulls out in front of people at lights, drives way too slow, and swerves all over the road. They shouldn't be allowed to drive either then. Safe bet?! Well your idiotic assumption is as close to what maybe the truth as mine is.

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Since: Nov 08

Osage County

#31 Aug 16, 2010
Do Rightly wrote:
<quoted text>
Problem being, those trails aren't everywhere. I drive from Claremore to Broken Arrow to be able to ride my bike on the trails. I don't want to cause a wreck nor do I want to be in one.
There are a lot of plans for new bike trails in the area but even then they don't go everywhere and some people commute to work and such. You drivers are just going to have to be a little more patient and courteous...please!!!
As long as bikes have the legal right to ride on the street you can be charged if you hit them out of negligence or under the influence. I can't believe anyone would really run them over on purpose but I'm sure there are people that could do anything under the right circumstances.
There is a great trail that runs north from downtown Tulsa to Sperry. At one time the trail was the old Katy railroad track. A trail that runs from Sand Springs onto Riverside and down to Jenks. So yes around Tulsa There are miles and miles of Trails. Why do the cyclist have to ride on hiways and narrow country roads? I know they will say "We have a RIGHT to be there." Actually driving and /or riding a bike on public roads, is NOT a right but a PRIVILEDGE. If you want to see how rude and inconsiderate bike riders can be, go norht of Sand Springs on Wednesday evenings. There is a group that rides the roads out there that is terrible. They ride 3-4 abreast, and refuse to stop at the stop signs. They are the most arrogant bunch of bast ards on the road.

I have noticed that most bike riders do NOT obey the rules of the road. How many times have you been in downtown Tulsa and saw bikes riding the wrong way up a one way street? Is that legal? No it isnt. They must follow the rules of the road, and going the wrong way is NOT. How many times have yoy seen a bike rider run a stop light ? I see it all the time, again...not following the rules of the road. I know the bike riders are gonna come back and ask how many car drivers do you see speeding..ect.ect..? But the difference is, the speeder knows he is wrong, the bike rider thinks that the rules of the road does not apply.
beezlbub

Tulsa, OK

#32 Aug 16, 2010
bicyclesRAroadhazard wrote:
<quoted text> There is a great trail that runs north from downtown Tulsa to Sperry. At one time the trail was the old Katy railroad track. A trail that runs from Sand Springs onto Riverside and down to Jenks. So yes around Tulsa There are miles and miles of Trails. Why do the cyclist have to ride on hiways and narrow country roads? I know they will say "We have a RIGHT to be there." Actually driving and /or riding a bike on public roads, is NOT a right but a PRIVILEDGE. If you want to see how rude and inconsiderate bike riders can be, go norht of Sand Springs on Wednesday evenings. There is a group that rides the roads out there that is terrible. They ride 3-4 abreast, and refuse to stop at the stop signs. They are the most arrogant bunch of bast ards on the road.
I have noticed that most bike riders do NOT obey the rules of the road. How many times have you been in downtown Tulsa and saw bikes riding the wrong way up a one way street? Is that legal? No it isnt. They must follow the rules of the road, and going the wrong way is NOT. How many times have yoy seen a bike rider run a stop light ? I see it all the time, again...not following the rules of the road. I know the bike riders are gonna come back and ask how many car drivers do you see speeding..ect.ect..? But the difference is, the speeder knows he is wrong, the bike rider thinks that the rules of the road does not apply.
I have no problem with folks riding their bikes anywhere they want to but to have the arrogant attitude that people in cars have to watch out for them is where I have a problem. I make sure to give them plenty of room but watching them ignore all the other traffic laws and then cry when one of them gets run over is frustrating. Elwood out by Glenpool is traveled alot on the weekends. They ride 2 to 3 abreast and make no attempt to share the road. I watched them for awhile and they almost caused wreck after wreck because they didn't want to let cars by. Then at 91st they all just rode through the redlight. If they are going to ride on the street and demand respect they must give that respect in return. For those saying they should ride on the trails....well they are just as arrogant there. I used to walk everyday on various trails in Tulsa and they seemed to get a thrill out of seeing how close they could get to you at speed. We got into a confrontation with one of the stringbeans because he clipped my buddy. We always try to stay out of their way but this was too much. Now i know all of the riders are not like this but the bike nazis are and they know who they are

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#33 Aug 16, 2010
bicyclesRAroadhazard wrote:
<quoted text> There is a great trail that runs north from downtown Tulsa to Sperry. At one time the trail was the old Katy railroad track. A trail that runs from Sand Springs onto Riverside and down to Jenks. So yes around Tulsa There are miles and miles of Trails. Why do the cyclist have to ride on hiways and narrow country roads? I know they will say "We have a RIGHT to be there." Actually driving and /or riding a bike on public roads, is NOT a right but a PRIVILEDGE. If you want to see how rude and inconsiderate bike riders can be, go norht of Sand Springs on Wednesday evenings. There is a group that rides the roads out there that is terrible. They ride 3-4 abreast, and refuse to stop at the stop signs. They are the most arrogant bunch of bast ards on the road.
I have noticed that most bike riders do NOT obey the rules of the road. How many times have you been in downtown Tulsa and saw bikes riding the wrong way up a one way street? Is that legal? No it isnt. They must follow the rules of the road, and going the wrong way is NOT. How many times have yoy seen a bike rider run a stop light ? I see it all the time, again...not following the rules of the road. I know the bike riders are gonna come back and ask how many car drivers do you see speeding..ect.ect..? But the difference is, the speeder knows he is wrong, the bike rider thinks that the rules of the road does not apply.
To tell you the truth, I could say the same about car drivers. But there is no excuse for lawlessness.

I will tell you the main reason I quit riding on country and city roads was the fact that people were so impatient. They would pass me going up a hill in the wrong lane (I don't know how many times I saw this but enough to make me give up street riding). If someone had come over the hill while they were passing me in the opposite lane it would've been curtains for both cars and possibly for me as well depending on my location when the crash occurred,(head on wreck @ speeds greater than 35-45,in other words 70-90mph impact, the drivers and passengers more than likely terribly injured if not killed). All this to avoid me, that's when I decided to move to the trails.

People on bikes riding more than two abreast are driving illegal but I'm sure they drive illegal in their cars as well. Most everyone does.

If the cops don't put a stop to it, along with speeding and every other act of lawlessness it will continue. That's just human nature. I got away with it last time...maybe this time too.

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Since: Jul 10

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#34 Aug 16, 2010
bicyclesRAroadhazard wrote:
<quoted text> There is a great trail that runs north from downtown Tulsa to Sperry. At one time the trail was the old Katy railroad track. A trail that runs from Sand Springs onto Riverside and down to Jenks. So yes around Tulsa There are miles and miles of Trails. Why do the cyclist have to ride on hiways and narrow country roads? I know they will say "We have a RIGHT to be there." Actually driving and /or riding a bike on public roads, is NOT a right but a PRIVILEDGE. If you want to see how rude and inconsiderate bike riders can be, go norht of Sand Springs on Wednesday evenings. There is a group that rides the roads out there that is terrible. They ride 3-4 abreast, and refuse to stop at the stop signs. They are the most arrogant bunch of bast ards on the road.
I have noticed that most bike riders do NOT obey the rules of the road. How many times have you been in downtown Tulsa and saw bikes riding the wrong way up a one way street? Is that legal? No it isnt. They must follow the rules of the road, and going the wrong way is NOT. How many times have yoy seen a bike rider run a stop light ? I see it all the time, again...not following the rules of the road. I know the bike riders are gonna come back and ask how many car drivers do you see speeding..ect.ect..? But the difference is, the speeder knows he is wrong, the bike rider thinks that the rules of the road does not apply.
I just noticed the last part of this...sorry!

In case you didn't notice, I'm from Claremore, I didn't drive to Broken Arrow to ride on the streets. I don't know what goes on in Tulsa(other than on the trails from NSU to Southwest Blvd. and back). I do know that bicyclists are supposed to ride with the traffic as close as humanly possible to the curb. Drivers are supposed to give three feet clearance between their car and the bicycle. So yes, if the bicyclists are going the wrong way they are in error.

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Since: Jul 10

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#35 Aug 16, 2010
This is off topic but the same as we've been talking about.

There is nothing that irritates me more than for a semi or dump truck to pull out in front of me when I'm doing 55-65mph on a highway just because they know I won't run into them. If they can't get up to, at least minimum speed limits before the person they are pulling out in front of they should wait. That's the most deadly judgement call I can think of. Working at the Port of Catoosa for most of my life I saw it way more times than I wanted to.

Bicyclists shouldn't being doing that either. That's just plain rude.

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Since: Jul 10

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#36 Aug 16, 2010
being= be....sorry!
softballmommy

Broken Arrow, OK

#37 Aug 16, 2010
First of all this woman was a dear friend to my father and a very safe and avid bike rider. Stillwater does not have many bike trails and this woman rode very far distances and trails don't offer that. She was not riding in the middle of the road,but far off to the side. Her husband had just left the state to start a new job and she was soon to follow. The driver that hit her is to blame not her. Keep your eyes on the road and we wouldnt have a problem. If it was a child hit and killed you wouldnt blame the child would you? A wonderful wife,mother and friend was killed so think about that before you throw out stupid comments and blame people. The family needs prayers and not your stupid thinking and judging!
justmyopinion

Ponca City, OK

#38 Aug 17, 2010
I feel very badly for the family and friends of this person that was killed... on the other hand, I don't believe riding bicycles on the roads are acceptable and very dangerous for the riders and the vehicle drivers. I myself have almost hit a few while driving... also on very narrow roads, it may be the difference of hitting the bicyclist or another car.
Bikesoff

Owasso, OK

#39 Aug 18, 2010
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Then stay off the road ride on bike trails!
John, I totally agree. I am so sorry for this woman and her family and friends. So many of these accidents could just be prevented if bike riders rode their bikes where they are supposed to be ridden. Otherwise you are just taking your life, and possibly other lives, in your own hands. Motorcycles don't even have a chance against a car or even another motorcyle on the roads. How can anyone think riding a bicycle on a road, let alone a highway, and be any match for the other vehicles??? I feel sorry for this poor 19 yr. old guy having to live with the mistake the bicyclist made. It's all just so sad!
andrea

Norman, OK

#40 Aug 19, 2010
Bike trails, as you refer to them, aren't always for road bikes. Not only that, but they don't always go where a cyclist is going. Riding on the roadway or on a shoulder should be perfectly safe for a cyclist IF motorists pay attention. Even if there are bike lanes installed, unfortunately it wouldn't keep ignoramouses from entering the lane; you'd actually have to build a 6 foot wall or something. The only solution to this is to get rid of the hate and educate.
In this particular case the woman was riding on a bigass shoulder. It wouldn't have mattered if this was a pedestrian walking to get gas, a disabled vehicle w/folks working on it, or a cyclist. Clearly the driver of the pickup was distracted, and in that split second he took a life. Vehicles don't drive themselves. Yes it was an accident but one that could have been prevented. Why didn't he see her about a mile away? Because he wasn't scanning the roadway like he should have been. People nowadays drive with tunnel vision.
andrea

Norman, OK

#41 Aug 19, 2010
justmyopinion wrote:
I feel very badly for the family and friends of this person that was killed... on the other hand, I don't believe riding bicycles on the roads are acceptable and very dangerous for the riders and the vehicle drivers. I myself have almost hit a few while driving... also on very narrow roads, it may be the difference of hitting the bicyclist or another car.
Tell that to Lance Armstrong. You think he trained on sidewalks and bike trails?
andrea

Norman, OK

#42 Aug 19, 2010
Do Rightly wrote:
This is off topic but the same as we've been talking about.
There is nothing that irritates me more than for a semi or dump truck to pull out in front of me when I'm doing 55-65mph on a highway just because they know I won't run into them. If they can't get up to, at least minimum speed limits before the person they are pulling out in front of they should wait. That's the most deadly judgement call I can think of. Working at the Port of Catoosa for most of my life I saw it way more times than I wanted to.
Bicyclists shouldn't being doing that either. That's just plain rude.
Yeah, cuz you couldn't POSSIBLY fit on the same road with a bicyclist...

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