Woman killed in I-15 crash in the Caj...

Woman killed in I-15 crash in the Cajon Pass

There are 37 comments on the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin story from Jun 18, 2010, titled Woman killed in I-15 crash in the Cajon Pass. In it, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin reports that:

A Victorville woman died in a car crash on the 15 Freeway this morning in the Cajon Pass.

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What the Eff

Victorville, CA

#1 Jun 18, 2010
How sad that she died but wow! She had quite the record: possession, kidnapping, receiving stolen property, etc., etc. Karma baby, karma!
Dirtbag_alert

Redlands, CA

#2 Jun 18, 2010
Bummer.
She is going to miss her court date for receiving stolen property.
Anonymous

Adelanto, CA

#3 Jun 18, 2010
What the Eff wrote:
How sad that she died but wow! She had quite the record: possession, kidnapping, receiving stolen property, etc., etc. Karma baby, karma!
so you research dead peoples backgrounds just to blog about it after their untimely death? niiiiice....
PeopleTheseDays

Brea, CA

#4 Jun 18, 2010
What the Eff wrote:
How sad that she died but wow! She had quite the record: possession, kidnapping, receiving stolen property, etc., etc. Karma baby, karma!
So you're playing "Detective", huh?
What a loser!
Code 4

Costa Mesa, CA

#5 Jun 18, 2010
Her background, like that of most criminals, is newsworthy, and I appreciate your research.

I was stuck in this, and tried to get to the 138 in Phelan. I left home at 6:45, and finally made it to the 138 at 8:30!
Jimenez

AOL

#6 Jun 18, 2010
PeopleTheseDays wrote:
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So you're playing "Detective", huh?
What a loser!
So you think someone is a "loser" because they are interested in knowing a little more about someone they read about in an article? For those of us who are actually interested in learning a little more, the extra information gives us a better insight into the person and the story. For those like you, I guess maybe you should just stick to the comics and leave the real news to those who can actaully handle more than just the basics. With the comics you don't have to do much thinking or wonder about what a person you're reading about is really like.
Really now

Victorville, CA

#7 Jun 18, 2010
I find it interesting that a Riverside paper can do a better job of reporting on Victorville incidents than the newspaper reporting in the Victorville area. Hey DB, you're on your way to bankruptcy court for lack of ability.
Puhlease

San Diego, CA

#8 Jun 18, 2010
To the people who looked up this lady's criminal record, you have entirely too much time on your hands. Her record is of no relevance and has nothing to do with the article. You need a job or a hobby pronto.
Jimenez

AOL

#9 Jun 18, 2010
Puhlease wrote:
To the people who looked up this lady's criminal record, you have entirely too much time on your hands. Her record is of no relevance and has nothing to do with the article. You need a job or a hobby pronto.
Maybe someone should enlighten you as it seems you're very much in the dark. It takes less than a minute for someone to type a name into open access to look up a record. So it has nothing to do with anyone needing a job or hobby. In fact it takes less time than it did for you to come up with your "clever" little jab about a job or hobby. So possibly you need a job or hobby? Let me educate you a bit since you seem to be in dire need of it. The person that came up with the bit of information about the victim of this crash wasn't looking up her criminal record. I would be willing to bet that because of the circumstances of the type of accident she was involved in he was curious as to whether she had been involved in accidents like this before, or had either a bad driving record or drunk driving arrests. Those records also are combined with criminal files. So by simply spending 30 seconds or less looking at the San Bernardino driving records he saw the numerous criminal charges. So if you're ignorant enough to think that because someone spent 30 seconds or less means they need a hobby or job, then you obviously need educating. Because it also took me less than 30 seconds to find out what he did. In fact I also noticed that she had numerous traffic charges and an arrest for kidnapping a child under the age of 14 and another charge for cruelty to a child.

So yeah, if you think he needs a hobby or job because he spent 20 or 30 seconds (about the same amount of time it took you to write your little comment to him) inquiring about someones driving record, then maybe you need to take a look at yourself too.

This was a death. An incident where someone died. But just as easily as she died during the accident, she could also have caused the death of any of those motorists who tried to avoid her. It could have been a catastrophe. Yeah, you're dead wrong. Her past driving record has a lot of relevance. And that's how he happened upon this info. And because someone might have wanted a little insight into how or why something like this might have happened? You find fault at that? Crawl back into your cave, lol. That's where you belong.
Southern Crosses The Dog

Upland, CA

#10 Jun 19, 2010
To Puhlease of Anaheim & all you other parolees,
Any judge, policeman or public defender will tell you a person's tendencies towards drugs, criminal behavior shows a pattern towards their day-to-day behavior. Likewise, if you're on a jury & lean towards jury nullification for emotional reasons, the blood of all those hurt or killed-including the defendant, is on your hands This matches up with the woman in this story-if it's her, I'm sorry about the rush hour mess but it's best she's gone;
http://www.nctimes.com/news/state-and-regiona...
Really now

Victorville, CA

#11 Jun 19, 2010
Puhlease wrote:
To the people who looked up this lady's criminal record, you have entirely too much time on your hands. Her record is of no relevance and has nothing to do with the article. You need a job or a hobby pronto.
It might. Maybe she was a useless drunk who could have killed another family, instead of herself. A crash at 2:30ish, right during drunk hour, hmmmm.
What the Eff

Victorville, CA

#12 Jun 19, 2010
Jimenez wrote:
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Maybe someone should enlighten you as it seems you're very much in the dark. It takes less than a minute for someone to type a name into open access to look up a record. So it has nothing to do with anyone needing a job or hobby. In fact it takes less time than it did for you to come up with your "clever" little jab about a job or hobby. So possibly you need a job or hobby? Let me educate you a bit since you seem to be in dire need of it. The person that came up with the bit of information about the victim of this crash wasn't looking up her criminal record. I would be willing to bet that because of the circumstances of the type of accident she was involved in he was curious as to whether she had been involved in accidents like this before, or had either a bad driving record or drunk driving arrests. Those records also are combined with criminal files. So by simply spending 30 seconds or less looking at the San Bernardino driving records he saw the numerous criminal charges. So if you're ignorant enough to think that because someone spent 30 seconds or less means they need a hobby or job, then you obviously need educating. Because it also took me less than 30 seconds to find out what he did. In fact I also noticed that she had numerous traffic charges and an arrest for kidnapping a child under the age of 14 and another charge for cruelty to a child.
So yeah, if you think he needs a hobby or job because he spent 20 or 30 seconds (about the same amount of time it took you to write your little comment to him) inquiring about someones driving record, then maybe you need to take a look at yourself too.
This was a death. An incident where someone died. But just as easily as she died during the accident, she could also have caused the death of any of those motorists who tried to avoid her. It could have been a catastrophe. Yeah, you're dead wrong. Her past driving record has a lot of relevance. And that's how he happened upon this info. And because someone might have wanted a little insight into how or why something like this might have happened? You find fault at that? Crawl back into your cave, lol. That's where you belong.
Thank you to those who have the intellect to understand why I took the 15 seconds out of my life to look up this chicks record - I appreciate the support.

To the others that can't comprehend my curiosity or need for this information: I feel sorry for you that you live in such a shallow world and will take things at face value. In my opinion a shallow world equals a shallow person. Now as Jimenez so kindly said crawl back in to your cave where you belong or go watch Sponge Bob while the grown-ups talk.
The Speck

North Las Vegas, NV

#13 Jun 19, 2010
You are in the dark. Do you not know the Love Of God? I guess not because if you did you would have never posted that.How do you know if she has children old enough to read what you wrote. The Word say's a person shall reap what they sow. I have one last thing for you. I dare you too take the time to pull this up like you did on the deceased.Luke 6:41, better yet I'll save you some time. Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not preceive the plank in your own eye!!!!!!
Puppet

AOL

#14 Jun 19, 2010
The Speck wrote:
You are in the dark. Do you not know the Love Of God? I guess not because if you did you would have never posted that.How do you know if she has children old enough to read what you wrote. The Word say's a person shall reap what they sow. I have one last thing for you. I dare you too take the time to pull this up like you did on the deceased.Luke 6:41, better yet I'll save you some time. Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not preceive the plank in your own eye!!!!!!
Luke6:41, so I guess that's why you're accusing others of not knowing the love of God? You seem very quick to judge others in the same breath as quoting Luke:641.
Michael H

San Bernardino, CA

#15 Jun 19, 2010
It's funny how some idiot put "possession" as the #1 offense. This woman was convicted of cruelty to children and was arrested for receiving stolen property and attempted kidnapping (the latter being dismissed)... yet you put marijuana possession at the forefront like it's the worst crime she has committed. Sounds like another bunch of brainwashed low lives trying to stir up trouble on the internet forums again.
Logic Sense

Eugene, OR

#16 Jun 19, 2010
The Speck wrote:
You are in the dark. Do you not know the Love Of God? I guess not because if you did you would have never posted that.How do you know if she has children old enough to read what you wrote. The Word say's a person shall reap what they sow. I have one last thing for you. I dare you too take the time to pull this up like you did on the deceased.Luke 6:41, better yet I'll save you some time. Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not preceive the plank in your own eye!!!!!!
You're on here condemning others and you have the nerve to mention Luke 6:41? Had the newspaper printed a more thorough article it would have also mentioned that during the last 10 years she had also had her license suspended, yet she was arrested more than once for continuing to drive on that suspended license. She was a continual deadly menace on our roads. And since she had prior strikes in the California Three Strikes system she had spent time in California prisons. I'm sure her children if any would know. They always do. She also recently had a marijuana possession charge.

Kidnapping children, willful cruelty to children, marijuana charges, stolen property charges, driving on supsended license, theft, and that's just in the San Bernardino court system. We don't even know what may be in the Los Angeles County system.

If you had to quote the Bible or bring God into the conversation, perhaps it would have been more appropriate and thoughtful had you said "It only by the grace of God that she killed only herself and not an innocent family on vacation". Maybe that would have shown that you really care about others rather than the superficial reputations after death.


That being said, it's still a tragedy that anyone had to die, and our thoughts and prayers go out to her friends and family. But that doesn't mean we can't acknowlege and learn from her mistakes. Hiding those mistakes and pretending they didn't happen benefits no one.
Logic Sense

Eugene, OR

#17 Jun 19, 2010
Michael H wrote:
It's funny how some idiot put "possession" as the #1 offense. This woman was convicted of cruelty to children and was arrested for receiving stolen property and attempted kidnapping (the latter being dismissed)... yet you put marijuana possession at the forefront like it's the worst crime she has committed. Sounds like another bunch of brainwashed low lives trying to stir up trouble on the internet forums again.
I doubt it, most aren't trying to place the crimes in any order of severity. The posession charge was one of the more recent. Anybody could type that one in first or last without having any meaning behind it's importance. To call someone an idiot just because they didn't take the time to list the crimes in order of their severity is a little harsh. It doesn't really mean much in a simple newspaper comment section. Not everyone is expecting someone to read something sinister in failing to list the most severe crimes first.
Jimenez

AOL

#18 Jun 19, 2010
Logic Sense wrote:
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I doubt it, most aren't trying to place the crimes in any order of severity. The posession charge was one of the more recent. Anybody could type that one in first or last without having any meaning behind it's importance. To call someone an idiot just because they didn't take the time to list the crimes in order of their severity is a little harsh. It doesn't really mean much in a simple newspaper comment section. Not everyone is expecting someone to read something sinister in failing to list the most severe crimes first.
I tend to agree. The posession charge would probably be more relevant to this accident than the cruelty to children or kidnapping charges. I would strongly suspect that the autopsy may confirm levels of ThC in her system at the time of the accident. It could easily be ONE of the contributing factors of her fatal accident. Just speculation of course, but I have my suspicions that marijuana in her system may be a contributor to at least some degree.
Things to consider

Covina, CA

#19 Jun 19, 2010
She plead not guilty by reason of insanity on the kidnapping charges. She posed as a doctor and attempted to kidnap a newborn baby at Victor Valley Hospital in 2004. She said it was to replace a baby a relative had lost due to a misscarriage. She was in a mental hospital until the latter half of last year.
The most recent criminal charge was filed against her Thursday, the day before this accident. Felony charges of recieving stolen property, with prior strikes. This could have been a very sick way of committing suicide or an attempt to use mental illness as a way out again. There is more to this story.
Jimenez

AOL

#20 Jun 19, 2010
Things to consider wrote:
She plead not guilty by reason of insanity on the kidnapping charges. She posed as a doctor and attempted to kidnap a newborn baby at Victor Valley Hospital in 2004. She said it was to replace a baby a relative had lost due to a misscarriage. She was in a mental hospital until the latter half of last year.
The most recent criminal charge was filed against her Thursday, the day before this accident. Felony charges of recieving stolen property, with prior strikes. This could have been a very sick way of committing suicide or an attempt to use mental illness as a way out again. There is more to this story.
Thank you for the information. Right from the start it appeared that there was more to this story than met the eye. That's why some of us spent the extra 30 seconds to delve a bit deeper and run her name through San Bernardino County Open Access. Just out of innocent curiosity. But apparently that bit of curiosity severely ruffled the feathers of some of the other commenters. To some of us knowledge sheds light. But I guess some others don't like the light and would rather stay in the dark. Or is the proper term, "ignorance is bliss"?

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