For St. Paul police officer's family,...

For St. Paul police officer's family, it's been five long years

There are 49 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 7, 2010, titled For St. Paul police officer's family, it's been five long years. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The leaden sky and cold rain matched the mood at St. Paul police headquarters Friday morning.

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Jack

Saint Paul, MN

#3 May 8, 2010
Sgt. Vick was a hero in so many ways. Many times each day I think of Sgt. Vick and his dedication to his profession. I also think of Ron Ryan Jr. and Tim "Nipper" Jones. Tim was a master with his K9 partner and Ron was just starting his career and his dad was first class all the way.

I think of their service to our community daily and I appreciate all they have given to St. Paul.

THANK YOU for your service!
Thomas Cook

Saint Paul, MN

#4 May 8, 2010
dora wrote:
Vick Blood alcohol level was .20..I dont think we should be comparing the tragic death of Sgt. Bergeron who has hideously executed with the death of Vick who was runnning around the neighborhood "undercover" and drunk and ready to shoot someone...How was he going to get home after his shift had this not happened? Get in his car and drive drunk home????? Likely wasnt the first time!
Dora, you don't know the situation at all and your comments are hurtful. While you were in your nice warn home, Sgt. Vick and Joe were undercover doing a very difficult job. You just can't order diet coke in a bar while undercover. You have to blend in or you will be outed. If you are in a bar you do what they do in a bar, drink. Please use a little common sense.

You are starting to sound a lot like Grace Kelly from the St. Paul Issues Forum.
dora

United States

#5 May 8, 2010
Thomas Cook wrote:
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Dora, you don't know the situation at all and your comments are hurtful. While you were in your nice warn home, Sgt. Vick and Joe were undercover doing a very difficult job. You just can't order diet coke in a bar while undercover. You have to blend in or you will be outed. If you are in a bar you do what they do in a bar, drink. Please use a little common sense.
You are starting to sound a lot like Grace Kelly from the St. Paul Issues Forum.
Point well taken Thomas..but he was more than TWICE over the legal limit..thats not just having a drink to blend in..Dont you think anyones judgement (including an officer) is impaired when they are twice over the legal limit? And again..was he going to drive home like that? Dont get me wrong..Im not saying he deserved it or that he wasnt a hero in some other situations..Im saying he was impaired the night this happened..
JustMe

Saint Paul, MN

#6 May 8, 2010
Wow. An officer spends 16 years of his life doing good and yet he is still judged so harshly based on one night that none of us were witness to. Just as Bergeron is not a hero for how he died but how he lived, Jerry is due the same respect. He lived his life as a hero.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#7 May 8, 2010
Thomas Cook wrote:
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Dora, you don't know the situation at all and your comments are hurtful. While you were in your nice warn home, Sgt. Vick and Joe were undercover doing a very difficult job. You just can't order diet coke in a bar while undercover. You have to blend in or you will be outed. If you are in a bar you do what they do in a bar, drink. Please use a little common sense.
You are starting to sound a lot like Grace Kelly from the St. Paul Issues Forum.
maybe you cant order just a diet coke, but you dont have to drink yourslef to 2 and half time over the legal limit either, Vick was no hero, he was drunk looking for a fight. I support police and MR. Bergeron was a hero who was executed in cold blood.
too little too late

Saint Paul, MN

#8 May 8, 2010
Ryan, Vick, Bergeron, and countless others should be alive right now. Too many funerals, too many court cases, and too many crooks and future murderers being released by liberal judges in a failing judicial system.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#9 May 8, 2010
too little too late wrote:
Ryan, Vick, Bergeron, and countless others should be alive right now. Too many funerals, too many court cases, and too many crooks and future murderers being released by liberal judges in a failing judicial system.
Vick should not be mentioned with the others.
honor them all

United States

#10 May 8, 2010
In PA most of us thank all law enforcment officers for their service.

We know it is a very difficult job and we never want any of you hurt.

But that is not reality.

We respect you, we help you, we miss you, we continue the work in honor of you.
bucky

United States

#11 May 8, 2010
oxboro - shame on you and you too dora. when did you become judge and jury? when did i vote for you to decide who should and should not be mentioned with other fallen officers? when is the last time either of you worked undercover? chased someone with a gun? risked your life for people you don't even know? willingly went toward danger instead of turn, run and hide? i hope neither of you ever has the need for protection or to be forgiven in your glass house.
Steven

Minneapolis, MN

#12 May 8, 2010
JustMe wrote:
Wow. An officer spends 16 years of his life doing good and yet he is still judged so harshly based on one night that none of us were witness to. Just as Bergeron is not a hero for how he died but how he lived, Jerry is due the same respect. He lived his life as a hero.
But isn't that the way the cops judge the rest of us. Pass one bad check or make a mistake in life and do one bad thing and you are dirt till the day you die with them. What makes this guy any different?
dora

Minneapolis, MN

#13 May 8, 2010
bucky wrote:
oxboro - shame on you and you too dora. when did you become judge and jury? when did i vote for you to decide who should and should not be mentioned with other fallen officers? when is the last time either of you worked undercover? chased someone with a gun? risked your life for people you don't even know? willingly went toward danger instead of turn, run and hide? i hope neither of you ever has the need for protection or to be forgiven in your glass house.
Im not the judge and jury..this is simply a forum where readers post their OPINIONS..I happen to beleive that NO ONE should be at work intoxicated..I dont live in a glass house cuz........I have never been to work drunk! Do you want your Dr. or nurse or paramedic responding to your emergency with a blood alcohol level of .20? I dont.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#14 May 8, 2010
bucky wrote:
oxboro - shame on you and you too dora. when did you become judge and jury? when did i vote for you to decide who should and should not be mentioned with other fallen officers? when is the last time either of you worked undercover? chased someone with a gun? risked your life for people you don't even know? willingly went toward danger instead of turn, run and hide? i hope neither of you ever has the need for protection or to be forgiven in your glass house.
hey Bucky you didnt vote for me for anything, i dont believe i was running for anything, its my opinion and others too, Vick was a testosterone filled cop with too much to drink, thats a big problem
Thomas Cook

Saint Paul, MN

#15 May 9, 2010
dora wrote:
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Im not the judge and jury..this is simply a forum where readers post their OPINIONS..I happen to beleive that NO ONE should be at work intoxicated..I dont live in a glass house cuz........I have never been to work drunk! Do you want your Dr. or nurse or paramedic responding to your emergency with a blood alcohol level of .20? I dont.
Yes, you are being judge and jury.

Sure I don't want a doctor or nurse drunk when they are working on me, that is basic. They are following the rules of conduct as outlined in their code of conduct for their particular job.

Sgt. Jerry Vick was also doing what his job outlined. Going undercover one has to "blend in" and you become one of them. If you are in a bar you are going to have a drink and talk. Information from this talking is called intelligence gathering. Just think for a minute if all undercover officers refuse a drink or drug while undercover, do you think they will be accepted into the world of the criminal? I can see it now, "Do you want a drink?" "No, my department manual says I can't, but thank you." What do you suspect this officers life expectancy is? That is why this particular job is so dangerous in law enforcement, good cops being asked to risk it all so you can sit in front of your computer in your nice warm home and be safe from the lowest of low in our society.

So in short, Jerry Vick is a HERO in every way, and I think the 3 medals of Valor speak for themselves.
bob

Saint Paul, MN

#17 May 9, 2010
Gerald Vick wrote:
was he drinking on the job and Harrington tried to covered up?
ur a as#hole
bob

Saint Paul, MN

#18 May 9, 2010
dora wrote:
Vick Blood alcohol level was .20..I dont think we should be comparing the tragic death of Sgt. Bergeron who has hideously executed with the death of Vick who was runnning around the neighborhood "undercover" and drunk and ready to shoot someone...How was he going to get home after his shift had this not happened? Get in his car and drive drunk home????? Likely wasnt the first time!
let's go undercover, get down and waddle in the mud with these scumbags and have a diet coke at the same time. U dumbA$$
stpaul

Saint Paul, MN

#19 May 9, 2010
THANKS VICK.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#20 May 9, 2010
Gerlad Vick, Michael Vick..who cares?..Mr> Bergeron wwas executed in cold blood doing his job, Mr Vick was drunk while on the job,
nom de plume

New York, NY

#22 May 9, 2010
In Minnesota most of us who "think" thank all the COPS by paying them wage. If the risk is too great get a different job.

Don't expect Saint hood.
honor them all wrote:
In PA most of us thank all law enforcment officers for their service.
We know it is a very difficult job and we never want any of you hurt.
But that is not reality.
We respect you, we help you, we miss you, we continue the work in honor of you.
Reality of it all

Saint Paul, MN

#23 May 9, 2010
nom de plume wrote:
<quoted text>WHO EFFING DIED AND MADE YOU KING.

YOU COPS DON'T HAVE THE CORNER ON HERO. OK, SKIPPY?
Or just F off.
I guess you are a queen then.
nom de plume

New York, NY

#25 May 9, 2010
Reality of it all wrote:
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I guess you are a queen then.
No bag pipes for you!!!

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