Don't Call Them "Climate Deniers." Ca...

Don't Call Them "Climate Deniers." Call them "Climate Optimists."

There are 36 comments on the Mother Jones story from Jul 12, 2014, titled Don't Call Them "Climate Deniers." Call them "Climate Optimists.". In it, Mother Jones reports that:

Las Vegas is parched. A 14-year drought has left Lake Mead, the local water source, dangerously low.

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Gist spot

San Angelo, TX

#21 Jul 28, 2014
litesong wrote:
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Temperatures have been in the mid 80's in July above the Arctic Circle, in Canada, Siberia, northwestern Russia, & far northern Europe.
Consider the Antarctic ice formation with unprecented expansion. The debate is this caused by man. All other planets in our solar system also saw an increase in temperature during the time which you refer.
Franklin Mindt

San Francisco, CA

#22 Jul 29, 2014
Bundy For President wrote:
You liberal jerks are buying into the climate crap. Shame on you! This is a liberal smoke screen to keep you from finding god and doing Christ's work to stop all rents and stop all foreners, and stop all lesbians, our Teaparty is the Gay party and the brothers Koch are pronounced cock for a damn good reason. STOP TAXING THE RICH AS THEY DONT LIKE IT.
We are with anything that our amer Teaparty proposes. If it sounds goofy, the truth will out and it will be seen as perfect as scripture once we give it a chance.
We got to stop suing the leaders for liability and other claims. If you are injured, get sick, die, can't work after using, go nuts or blind from using any product it is because YOU used it. The costs that flow from suing to collect for your dead granny because she was in a car that didnt protect her or somesuch crap...those costs come outta me when I buy the next car, pill, battery or drug. That is not fair. Sue your granny. No more welfare or any other fare for these crabby bums as it is ruining everything and we cant win no wars when we are feared of suing so and so's. TEAPARTY FORE GOD.
Monroe

Dunbar, WV

#23 Jul 29, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
The IPCC was created to help public policy. It is composed of scientists and support personnel.
Deniers can't stand the IPCC. If there were no IPCC, deniers would keep the truth buried under the seas..
So, SpaceBlues likes and supports the IPCC as an honest and scientific report on climate change.

Is it a desire for ideological purity or simple stupidity which makes him unable to even acknowledge some information in IPCC reports which casts doubt on warming hysteria? Does he refuse to believe or is he unable to understand measured numerical information in IPCC reports?

For example, elsewhere SpaceBlues calls a clear statement in the most recent IPCC report delusional. That report clearly says the rate of warming the last 15 years has been only 0.05 degrees C per decade. That rate leads to an increase of one degree in 200 years, far less than what the IPCC predicts by 2100. SpaceBlues calls that delusional and "without mathematics", whatever that means to him.

An IPCC chart, linked in a post above, indicates that human activity produces only
3% of the annual increase of CO2. If true, is seems that a complete cessation of human CO2 output would have insignificant effect on warming or climate.

The IPCC IS political or at least inconsistent in its conclusions. While each succeeding report has reduced its predicted temperature changes, it claims increasing certainty in dire consequences.

Nevertheless, climate hysterics will remain terrified, while claiming skeptics to be unscientific.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#24 Jul 29, 2014
Deniers post nonsense, lies, misrepresentations.

Dismissed!

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#25 Aug 3, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Deniers post nonsense, lies, misrepresentations.
Dismissed!
hypocrite! why are you posting nonsense and lies......and wasting co2 emissions while doing so, punk?
SpaceBlues

Dallas, TX

#26 Aug 3, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>hypocrite! why are you posting nonsense and lies......and wasting co2 emissions while doing so, punk?
You just lied again.

You appear to die without talking to me; go live again, LOL.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#27 Aug 3, 2014
Yep2 wrote:
Ask a Leftist the time and he'll make a 2 hour speech.
Ask a Rightist the time and he'll stomp it out for you.
Yep2

Roy, WA

#28 Aug 4, 2014
Ask Elizabeth Warren if she's Jeb Magruder.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#30 Aug 4, 2014
Yep2 wrote:
Ask Elizabeth Warren if she's Jeb Magruder.
You are confused, again:

Jeb Magruder, a former high-level aide to President Richard M. Nixon who went to jail in the Watergate affair and who years later made the startling assertion that Nixon himself had ordered the break-in that set the scandal in motion, died on Sunday in Danbury, Conn. He was 79.

His death, announced on Friday, was caused by complications after a stroke, his family said.

Released from prison in 1975 after seven months, Mr. Magruder, a former successful businessman, went on to earn a master’s degree from Princeton Theological Seminary and serve as a Presbyterian pastor. For years he preferred not to speak about the scandal that led to Nixon’s downfall.

But he eventually yielded to continued questions, acknowledging in interviews that Nixon had not just covered up the burglary — at the Democratic Party’s national headquarters in the Watergate complex in Washington — but had been involved from the start.

[from nyt]
litesong

Everett, WA

#31 Aug 5, 2014
geedumb spot wrote:
Consider the Antarctic ice formation with unprecented(sic) expansion.
I'm glad you refer to Antarctic sea ice increase, since AGW scientists predicted it would increase in 2002, re-confirmed it in 2005 & sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liars refer to the proof, as if it wasn't AGW scientists' prediction.
Monroe

Charleston, WV

#32 Aug 11, 2014
litesong wrote:
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I'm glad you refer to Antarctic sea ice increase, since AGW scientists predicted it would increase in 2002, re-confirmed it in 2005 & sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liars refer to the proof, as if it wasn't AGW scientists' prediction.
How many AGW scientists predicted a warming rate of only 0.5 (+/- 0.1) degree per decade between 1998 and 3012 as revealed in the latest IPCC report?

Any at all? You will more likely see them claim the temperature measurements are wrong than that the models that predict catastrophe are wrong.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33 Aug 11, 2014
Monroe wrote:
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How many AGW scientists predicted a warming rate of only 0.5 (+/- 0.1) degree per decade between 1998 and 3012 as revealed in the latest IPCC report?
Any at all? You will more likely see them claim the temperature measurements are wrong than that the models that predict catastrophe are wrong.
What's your temperature today? What was your prediction yesterday?

See how ridiculous you appear. What's your line of work? Open heart surgery, I hope.

In the meantime, our man-made global warming aka AGW rages on thanks to deniers like you.
Monroe

Charleston, WV

#34 Aug 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
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What's your temperature today? What was your prediction yesterday?
See how ridiculous you appear. What's your line of work? Open heart surgery, I hope.
In the meantime, our man-made global warming aka AGW rages on thanks to deniers like you.
SpaceBalls, if you cannot find an appropriate cut/paste response (your specialty) you should not try to write something out yourself. When you do, you almost always end up looking stupid, like now.
SpaceBalls, if English is not your first language, you are doing a pretty good job. If English IS your first language, well.......

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#35 Aug 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You just lied again.
You appear to die without talking to me; go live again, LOL.
is this an original thought, spacenut? if so....it explains why it's so stupid.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#36 Aug 16, 2014
Sample the denier posts on this forum.. they are desperate and depressed. Feel sorry for them.

Come home to humanity, denier brothers and sisters.
Monroe

Charleston, WV

#37 Aug 16, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Sample the denier posts on this forum.. they are desperate and depressed. Feel sorry for them.
Come home to humanity, denier brothers and sisters.
Pure projection. Poor SpaceBlues thought he'd found an issue he could support and make himself look wise but it has not worked.

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