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Healthy Gay Men Must Be Allowed to Donate Blood, Says GMHC

There are 101 comments on the EDGE story from Mar 8, 2013, titled Healthy Gay Men Must Be Allowed to Donate Blood, Says GMHC. In it, EDGE reports that:

Tired of the bureaucratic foot-dragging, the Gay Men's Health Crisis has teamed up with the Sarah Lawrence College Student Life Committee and the Student Senate to create a We The People online petition to demand that the President Barack Obama force the Food and Drug Administration to reform their policy preventing gay men from donating blood.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96 Mar 11, 2013
my journey wrote:
Being gay is a unsanitary choice.
Of course it is, it's as sanitary as eating meat, cleaning your kitchen, touching your hair, and ... oh wait, it's as sanitary as pretty much anything you do in a regular day.
Endocrine Disorder

Winnipeg, Canada

#97 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Red herring, and a really stupid one, dismissed.
If KK was our leader we'd still be in caves.
Endocrine Disorder

Winnipeg, Canada

#98 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Fallacy of equivocation, a lot of them actually. Try using ... science, for a change.
Is terrified that being gay isn't natural. Terrified it has a cause and you are not a third sex or a community, but victims of poisoning.
quzzus

Rochester, PA

#99 Mar 11, 2013
youtube.com/watch... Reasons are Error

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#100 Mar 11, 2013
Endocrine Disorder wrote:
<quoted text>Is terrified that being gay isn't natural. Terrified it has a cause and you are not a third sex or a community, but victims of poisoning.
Um, "you?" I'm asexual, we .. well, don't have sex, that's sort of our thing, we don't like it no matter what position it's done.

The rest of your post is not just erroneous, it's fallacious on so many levels. Have fun being paranoid delusional.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#101 Mar 11, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe you, youre not a doctor...youre just a gay who's trying to convince people on a mere message board that theres nothing wrong with homosexuality.
I don't believe you, you're not a doctor...you're just an anti-gay who's trying to convince people on a mere message board that theres something wrong with homosexuality.

Yet all you would have to do is to check with the same CDC site where that claim gay men have the highest rate of infection came from, to find that is also estimates as high as 20% of the gay male population is infected. While way too high, that still leaves about 80% who are not. It also probably underestamates the number of gay men.

Again, most gay men are not infected.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#102 Mar 11, 2013
Most gay men and women are not infected with any disease. Gay women are the lowest risk group, far behind heterosexual women and men.

Disease transmission information has always been used to demonize and dehumanize populations targeted for punishment. It was used to justify inter-racial segregation, and continues to be used today, despite the fact straight folks become infected with all of the same diseases, and even more straight people do all of the same things gay people do.

But more fundamentally, we don't deny equal rights based on disease. Because there are some who would like to do that, we have even hat to pass laws protecting people with diseases, birth defects, etc, from discrimination.

Disease transmission information demonstrates the importance of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.

It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.

While blood donation is not a right, outdated disease transmission information still fails the test of our current understanding of the science. We now know it is a virus, anyone can catch it, yet not everyone is at risk.

It fails as an excuse for denial of equal fundamental rights.

“Trump fixing Obama's mess”

Since: Mar 09

& Making America Great Again!

#103 Mar 11, 2013
Whenever I see a gay, I think AIDs and that's not a knee jerk reaction, that's a natural reaction and the majority of people (worldwide) also feel that way.
Nelson

Cambridge, MA

#104 Mar 11, 2013
RalphB wrote:
My spouse and I have been together since 1973, and we are monogamous. Neither of us is positive. I used to give blood on a regular basis. When they decided that gays should not give, I willingly stopped. If they open it up to gays again, I will not resume. I will give blood only to those who know I am gay, and support me. The rest of humanity can bleed to death as far as I am concerned. The hospital contacts me quarterly to donate, and I politely refuse, and will continue to do do.
You're lying.
Nelson

Anonymous Proxy

#105 Mar 11, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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Yep, when they ask. They do sometimes, but not all the time. And this is the hospital I use when needed, and my doctor is on staff there. It is a Catholic hospital. They have my medical Power of Attorney and my Medical Directive, and each has my spouse as the responsible person. When I was admitted one time they asked me if that person was a "friend" or a "partner". I told them "partner". The lady didn't flinch, and neither did my doctor.
BS!!!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106 Mar 11, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
Whenever I see a gay, I think AIDs and that's not a knee jerk reaction, that's a natural reaction and the majority of people (worldwide) also feel that way.
So in other words, you prefer to live in fantasy land.
Endocrine Disorder

Winnipeg, Canada

#107 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So in other words, you prefer to live in fantasy land.
KK the QUEEN OF DENIAL
http://www.cmaj.ca/content/163/11/1471.full

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#108 Mar 11, 2013
Endocrine Disorder wrote:
<quoted text> KK the QUEEN OF DENIAL
http://www.cmaj.ca/content/163/11/1471.full
You are projecting here, and still posting fallacious information.

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#109 Mar 12, 2013
my journey wrote:
Being gay is a unsanitary choice.
You being alive to spread religious filth in an unsanitary choice.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#110 Mar 13, 2013
You know, whenever I see articles and comments about how prejudice and fear are making people want to keep the gay blood donor ban, I think that maybe gays could use a hefty dose of fear themselves. Maybe it would keep them from engaging in high-risk and unprotected promiscuous sexual activity so that they won't contract an incurable, often deadly disease.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#111 Mar 13, 2013
Chance wrote:
You know, whenever I see articles and comments about how prejudice and fear are making people want to keep the gay blood donor ban, I think that maybe gays could use a hefty dose of fear themselves. Maybe it would keep them from engaging in high-risk and unprotected promiscuous sexual activity so that they won't contract an incurable, often deadly disease.
Um, straight people do it more often, gay people just get tested more.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#114 Mar 13, 2013
Federation wrote:
<quoted text>
Go do sum carpet munching u d@mn Queer
I'm not gay though, so why would I?
Dino

Saint Paul, MN

#115 Mar 14, 2013
Ever been to places where they accept blood donors in exchange for a 20 dollar bill? Go in there on any given day and you'll see nothing but homeless, junkies, and prosties waiting to donate to get their bill! If you'd rather that be juice to save your life well then fine by me. Take their blood. Rather them than a homo, right?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#116 Mar 14, 2013
Dino wrote:
Ever been to places where they accept blood donors in exchange for a 20 dollar bill? Go in there on any given day and you'll see nothing but homeless, junkies, and prosties waiting to donate to get their bill! If you'd rather that be juice to save your life well then fine by me. Take their blood. Rather them than a homo, right?
You're so correct.
Blood Bank Lab Tech

Ocala, FL

#117 Mar 15, 2013
Dino wrote:
Ever been to places where they accept blood donors in exchange for a 20 dollar bill? Go in there on any given day and you'll see nothing but homeless, junkies, and prosties waiting to donate to get their bill! If you'd rather that be juice to save your life well then fine by me. Take their blood. Rather them than a homo, right?
Blood and blood products that are SOLD are NEVER used for human transfusion. It is against the law in the US. All blood and components intended for transfusion to humans MUST come ONLY from VOLUNTEER DONORS.

Those homeless folks and winos and starving college students and others who sell their blood are NOT contributing to the community blood supply. Their blood (usually plasma) is used for research and as an ingredient in other products like cosmetics (sorry ladies) and some types of glue and other non-medical products.

I think, with the new testing that can detect HIV in as little as a week following exposure, that the FDA regulation may change when that testing is done by ALL blood banks in the US. Most already do, but it is not universally done yet.

When the new tests are the universal norm, the only reason not to change the prohibition will be public confidence in the blood supply. Ignorance and paranoia take a long time to overcome.

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