As Ice Shrinks, Demand for Arctic Shipping Heats Up

Dec 9, 2012 Full story: Hispanic Business 22

Shipping in the Arctic region is predicted to boom as ice sheets that formerly proved impenetrable recede due to global warming, opening up faster sea routes between Europe and Asia.

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Since: Feb 08

Yamashitacho, Japan

#1 Dec 9, 2012
Tsunami And Earthquakes Are Actually Secret Weapons

http://park.geocities.jp/j_con4/0104/p046.htm...

Most of the human beings are completely deceived.
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#2 Dec 9, 2012
Go away conspiracists, we don't need you.
PHD

Overton, TX

#3 Dec 10, 2012
Could it be a prosperous season this year?
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#4 Dec 10, 2012
This is the norwegian forum btw, if this isn't about Norway, go and discuss this somewhere else.
PHD

Overton, TX

#5 Dec 10, 2012
No itís a World wide forum.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#6 Dec 10, 2012
Arctic sea ice extent is 10,872,969 km2 (December 8, 2012), the day's gain only Maine-sized. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, mainland, & Siberia are to minus mid-thirties degC & lower. Average temperatures above the 80th parallel is -24degC.

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 11 weeks! Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of November, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~21% lower than any other year Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME during November for the period 1980-89, was ~18 thousand km3. Present November 2012 sea ice VOLUME is 6200 km3. The Arctic sea ice loss has been an uncontrolled plummet, desired by unscientific AGW deniers, who mostly have no or little mathematical or science background.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is 10,906,094 km2 (December 9, 2012), the day's gain, the size of tiny Maryland. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, the mainland & Siberia, are to the minus mid-thirties degC & lower.

Continued cold along Canadian islands has caused west Baffin Bay to ice, altho the eastern Bay along Greenland remains thinly clear. Due to solar heats absorbed into the shallow waters of Hudson Bay, the Bay has resisted icing. With past temperatures as low as -40 degC, due to cold spillage from the North Pole, the Bay is now icing, broadly north to south.

Long resisting the Arctic Ice Pack, Chief Joseph Land is now widely encircled by Arctic Ice Pack, due to 24/7 hours of darkness & a shifting but long enduring vortex, that moved cold Arctic sea water southward to the islands. Svalbard, also in winter darkness 24/7, is still clear of the Ice Pack, as is Novaya Zemlya,!!!!!!!!!

A detail noted a month & a half ago, is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle Ice Pack, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern?
Near the raggy taggy Ice Pack, developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. A day later, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!
Further data, showed that the vortex was true!

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 11 weeks & presently anywhere above the 68th parallel, now shrouding the Arctic with darkness for a good portion of the year! The sun is almost half an arcdeg above its farthest position to the south, due to the tilt of the Earth & present orbital position!
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#7 Dec 10, 2012
PHD wrote:
No itís a World wide forum.
This is the norwegian part of the forum. You might have noticed the huge "Norway Forum"
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#8 Dec 10, 2012
From the article:
Environmental groups have warned of the risk of oil spills in the region's fragile waters.
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litesong wrote:
When bp barges into the Arctic, there will be no risk. Oil spills will be guaranteed. As stated from the article:
A bp joint venture is planning to spend up to $10bn on developing onshore oilfields .........(with)...its experiences with the Macondo oil spill in the relatively benign waters of the Gulf.

Heard Las Vegas won't give odds, but Lloyds of London may give insurance.... if they can get oil people to give billions in premiums.

Ask bp. They'll pay the Lloyds of London premiums. Money can always make up for a pristine environment. Ask exxon...... of Prince Williams Sound fame. There are still problems in the Sound due to exxon.
PHD

Overton, TX

#9 Dec 10, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the norwegian part of the forum. You might have noticed the huge "Norway Forum"
No itís a Global warming forum, you might have noticed global meaning world forum.
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#10 Dec 11, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>No itís a Global warming forum, you might have noticed global meaning world forum.
If I scroll down when I read this, I see this:


51 Users are viewing the Norway Forum right now

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SpaceBlues

Manvel, TX

#11 Dec 11, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
<quoted text>
If I scroll down when I read this, I see this:
51 Users are viewing the Norway Forum right now
Search the Norway Forum:
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Why is Norway so expensive? 4 min Johnny 28
Looking for a job in Norway (Aug '08) 11 hr ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian 348
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Moving to Norway any tips?(Feb '07) 23 hr ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian 285
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Hey there! How are you? Did you get snow yet in the region?

I was traveling and saw no snow in Stockholm (of course, Sweden}last month.
PHD

Overton, TX

#12 Dec 11, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
<quoted text>
If I scroll down when I read this, I see this:
51 Users are viewing the Norway Forum right now
Search the Norway Forum:
Topic Updated Last By Comments
Why is Norway so expensive? 4 min Johnny 28
Looking for a job in Norway (Aug '08) 11 hr ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian 348
Zara clothes with 20 % discount 11 hr Oscar 1
[News] F18News Summary: Armenia; Belarus; Kazakhstan; ... 22 hr Mary Joe 11
Moving to Norway any tips?(Feb '07) 23 hr ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian 285
I need a girl friend in Norway.... i leave Norw...(Apr '12) Mon La Gioconda 19
DUTCH MAN KICKED TO DEATH. Boycot zion media G... Sun ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian 2
[Hot Thread] Mother Son incest LEGAL in Norway ??(Jan '12) Dec 8 Humhainna 73
See all threads in the Norway forum Ľ
Related Topix Forums: World News, Science, Europe, Global Warming, Natural Disasters, Boat Disaster, Tsunami, Environment, Tromso, Norway
Norway News
Students at NYU London get into the holiday spirit
DNV Appoint New V-P, Stefan Nerpin
Password-Cracking Expert Unveils 25-GPU Cluster...
Norse Energy files for Chapter 11
Monti seeks to calm market concerns over Italy
Norwegian Peace Activist: Top Role in Global Ar...
European Union accepts Nobel Peace Prize
Maintenance of changes in food intake and motiv...
Kenny in Oslo, as EU collect Nobel Peace Prize
Indecision over EU is costing Tories dear
As Ice Shrinks, Demand for Arctic Shipping Heat...
EU leaders accept Peace Prize in anti-EU bastion
More Norway News from Topix Ľ.........
Actually its a world wide forum. Much like the title says Global warming.
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#13 Dec 11, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Hey there! How are you? Did you get snow yet in the region?
I was traveling and saw no snow in Stockholm (of course, Sweden}last month.
There is snow here.
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#14 Dec 11, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Actually its a world wide forum. Much like the title says Global warming.
The forum itself is a global forum, but "Topix" was created so that local communities could chat about news etc.... and this is the norwegian part of the forum.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#15 Dec 11, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
The forum itself is a global forum, but "Topix" was created so that local communities could chat about news etc.... and this is the norwegian part of the forum.
Some of the global warming forum threads appear in other topix threads, besides global warming. A number of us are from the global warming forums. Seems you have found this thread through the Norwegian forum.
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#16 Dec 11, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Some of the global warming forum threads appear in other topix threads, besides global warming. A number of us are from the global warming forums. Seems you have found this thread through the Norwegian forum.
But if I go to the Chinese forum, Will thise thread appear there too? or is it only some threads?
PHD

Overton, TX

#17 Dec 12, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
<quoted text>
The forum itself is a global forum, but "Topix" was created so that local communities could chat about news etc.... and this is the norwegian part of the forum.
Actually its a world wide forum. Much like the title says Global warming.
ThehalfSamihalfN orwegian

Alta, Norway

#18 Dec 12, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Actually its a world wide forum. Much like the title says Global warming.
I just explained that there is different parts in this forum, Norwegian, Chinese and German etc....

Because topix was created for local communities to discuss news with eachother, and it expanded from American states to nations. He told me some threads gets published in more than one part of the forum, so I wonder if I go to the chinese part of the forum, do I see a thread like this there?
PHD

Overton, TX

#19 Dec 12, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
<quoted text>
I just explained that there is different parts in this forum, Norwegian, Chinese and German etc....
Because topix was created for local communities to discuss news with eachother, and it expanded from American states to nations. He told me some threads gets published in more than one part of the forum, so I wonder if I go to the chinese part of the forum, do I see a thread like this there?
Don't know give it a try and let us know. Thanks for the effort.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#21 Dec 12, 2012
ThehalfSamihalfNorwegian wrote:
He told me some threads gets published in more than one part of the forum, so I wonder if I go to the chinese part of the forum, do I see a thread like this there?
The closer a thread in a particular forum, may be related to another forum, should increase the changes of the thread appearing in that forum. Sometimes, global warming threads in the global warming forum, will appear in the much more general Sci-Tech forum.

Its quite obvious that increasing possibilities for shipping in Arctic waters due to sea ice disappearance could often appear in forums of countries surrounding the Arctic Ocean. Any country with a shipping industry where shorter routes are opening up, would be interested in future Arctic routes.

In this case, this thread seems to have popped up in the Norwegian thread.

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