Pecos River: Meeting comes up dry on water solutions

Nov 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Carlsbad Current-Argus

When the New Mexico Interstate Stream Commission, the federal government and other water agencies in the Lower Pecos River Basin signed off on the Pecos River Settlement Agreement in 2010, bringing to a close one of the longest water disputes in New Mexico history, no thought was given to how the agreement would work in times of severe drought.

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1 - 10 of 10 Comments Last updated Dec 12, 2012
Carlsbad Resident

Hobbs, NM

#1 Nov 16, 2012
"There is nothing in the Settlement Agreement that addresses severe drought. In the agreement, there is no exclusion for equipment and water availability.
It's a legal document, so they are required to continue pumping to put water into Brantley reservoir (a water storage facility for CID)."

When I'm traveling back and forth to work,where are all these water trucks getting their water? And do not tell me it is salt water that is a bunch of BS, I know the truth on that.

If we are in severe drough why are we pumping so much water out of the ground for water trucks?
I haven't seen any water going down the river and very little going down the canal something just does not add up.

My gut feeling is Waters being piped somewhere, it is not going into Brantley Lake.
$$$$.
Smoking man

Artesia, NM

#2 Nov 17, 2012
...they've taken it downstream of your water-meter to your house. Haven't you noticed? Plus, they've replaced your wife with an EXACT replica only 34 pounds fatter since she turned 40.

The truth is out there.
Carlsbad

Hobbs, NM

#3 Nov 18, 2012
Yep Water is being piped somewhere, it is not going into Brantley Lake.

Since: Feb 09

Carlsbad, NM

#4 Nov 19, 2012
Carlsbad Resident wrote:
"There is nothing in the Settlement Agreement that addresses severe drought. In the agreement, there is no exclusion for equipment and water availability.
It's a legal document, so they are required to continue pumping to put water into Brantley reservoir (a water storage facility for CID)."
When I'm traveling back and forth to work,where are all these water trucks getting their water? And do not tell me it is salt water that is a bunch of BS, I know the truth on that.
If we are in severe drough why are we pumping so much water out of the ground for water trucks?
I haven't seen any water going down the river and very little going down the canal something just does not add up.
My gut feeling is Waters being piped somewhere, it is not going into Brantley Lake.
$$$$.
you are right .....brilliant deduction watson....the water trucks are hauling water.....mostly they get water when they make oil...they dont mix...so water is separated at the well site and taken by trucks to disposals....the disposals then inject the water back into the ground....the water then filtrates back up from waaaayyyy down deep and eventually comes out clean and then is pumped back up for the trucks to take to the frac tanks for the frac units to use to pump back into the ground again to frac the formations waaaayyyy down deep so that more oil can be pumped back up...of course with more water....every drop of water that ever was except maybe some astronaut piss is still here ....just circulating though the system....by the way...how did you drive to work....in a car or did you ride a bicycle to work????
Fed up

Carlsbad, NM

#5 Nov 19, 2012
ellvis wrote:
<quoted text>you are right .....brilliant deduction watson....the water trucks are hauling water.....mostly they get water when they make oil...they dont mix...so water is separated at the well site and taken by trucks to disposals....the disposals then inject the water back into the ground....the water then filtrates back up from waaaayyyy down deep and eventually comes out clean and then is pumped back up for the trucks to take to the frac tanks for the frac units to use to pump back into the ground again to frac the formations waaaayyyy down deep so that more oil can be pumped back up...of course with more water....every drop of water that ever was except maybe some astronaut piss is still here ....just circulating though the system....by the way...how did you drive to work....in a car or did you ride a bicycle to work????
You perfert, go away!

Since: Feb 09

Ballwin, MO

#6 Nov 20, 2012
Fed up wrote:
<quoted text>
You perfert, go away!
im not perfect and im out here in the oilfields so what do you mean go away couch potatoe
....
Carlsbad

Hobbs, NM

#7 Nov 25, 2012
Carlsbad Resident wrote:
"There is nothing in the Settlement Agreement that addresses severe drought. In the agreement, there is no exclusion for equipment and water availability.
It's a legal document, so they are required to continue pumping to put water into Brantley reservoir (a water storage facility for CID)."
When I'm traveling back and forth to work,where are all these water trucks getting their water? And do not tell me it is salt water that is a bunch of BS, I know the truth on that.
If we are in severe drough why are we pumping so much water out of the ground for water trucks?
I haven't seen any water going down the river and very little going down the canal something just does not add up.
My gut feeling is Waters being piped somewhere, it is not going into Brantley Lake.
$$$$.
The old potash mines they are pumping thousands and thousands of water down into the old potash mines, and dissolving the potash pillars, and pumping the water back out with dissolved potash, that is where all the water is going from Lakewood area.
just so you know

Roswell, NM

#8 Nov 26, 2012
Carlsbad wrote:
<quoted text>
The old potash mines they are pumping thousands and thousands of water down into the old potash mines, and dissolving the potash pillars, and pumping the water back out with dissolved potash, that is where all the water is going from Lakewood area.
The potash mines have been pumping water for their processing and solution mining for decades. Longer than most people have been alive. Well water in the LaHuerta area was purchased in the 60s to supplement water tapped from the Caprock/Ogalla for this purpose. Water from the LaHuerta area does not share the same aquifer as the Artesian aquifer that is tapped in Lakewood.

As a well water user myself, I know that over time the well must be sand scooped. I'm wondering if the farmers in the Lakewood area are too cheap to perform regular maintenace of their own water wells and are now looking for a cope out.
Resident

Hobbs, NM

#9 Dec 12, 2012
just so you know wrote:
<quoted text>
The potash mines have been pumping water for their processing and solution mining for decades. Longer than most people have been alive. Well water in the LaHuerta area was purchased in the 60s to supplement water tapped from the Caprock/Ogalla for this purpose. Water from the LaHuerta area does not share the same aquifer as the Artesian aquifer that is tapped in Lakewood.
As a well water user myself, I know that over time the well must be sand scooped. I'm wondering if the farmers in the Lakewood area are too cheap to perform regular maintenace of their own water wells and are now looking for a cope out.
Every potash mine east of Carlsbad they have left behind miles and miles of underground chambers that have been mined out, leaving pillars of potash holding up the ceilings.
There is just about as much potash in those ceiling support pillars what they mind out.
The problem is how do you get those pillars out without the ceiling collapsing down on you, solution to the problem is "" pump down reservoirs of water "" dissolve the potash let the ceilings collaps down creating pressure so they can pump out the water dissolved potash.
This will take huge reservoirs of water to fill these underground chambers, think of "" Thousands of Carlsbad city lakes "" being pumped underground, where is this water coming from?

Since: Feb 09

Carlsbad, NM

#10 Dec 12, 2012
Resident wrote:
<quoted text>
Every potash mine east of Carlsbad they have left behind miles and miles of underground chambers that have been mined out, leaving pillars of potash holding up the ceilings.
There is just about as much potash in those ceiling support pillars what they mind out.
The problem is how do you get those pillars out without the ceiling collapsing down on you, solution to the problem is "" pump down reservoirs of water "" dissolve the potash let the ceilings collaps down creating pressure so they can pump out the water dissolved potash.
This will take huge reservoirs of water to fill these underground chambers, think of "" Thousands of Carlsbad city lakes "" being pumped underground, where is this water coming from?
the miine has already been flooded for years.....i worked there....it has a natural underground river about five hundred feet above it....and it had to be kept out of the mine already by pumps .....there will be a need to pump water back down when the water that is already down there is pumped out....but it will come from the caprock....that mine actually owned water rights that have been being sold for years and still has a lot of water available....its a different aquifer from the carlsbad water supply...if you dont count the water that the mine gave to carlsbad a few years ago....

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