'They told us to basically drop dead!' Angry New York residents and...

Jan 1, 2013 Full story: New York Daily News 267

Frustration flooded storm-battered parts of New York on Tuesday as Congress seemed ready to allow yet another day to pass without approving badly needed disaster aid.

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oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#105 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Where have I not given you respect?
Insinuating I'm an 8 year old and I'll lump you in with all the other teabaggers who jump right to the garbage talk like "the rest of us" did.
Wishing hurricanes on one's home state over a political dispute is not very tolerant or loving. I never mentioned respect, that is something you added in here yourself.

Saying "but he did it first" is the kind of excuse making one commonly associates with children, i.e. someone 8 years of age.

"Lumping in with all of the others" is actually the tactic I'm expecting next since you are out of arguments........
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#106 Jan 3, 2013
Pappa wrote:
<quoted text>
The house allocated money for Sandy victims. The senate added funds for Alaskan fishermen. Do you really not see a problem with this?
Yes, I stated earlier that it shouldn't be removed, that the speaker should expose the piece of crap that inserted that and other things not directly related to Sandy.

Publicly and broadcast to every news outlet.

Let people know who is installing pork.

It would be a N.Y. minute and that and others would be removed.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#107 Jan 3, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Had Bush pushed for a big disaster relief bill, and Democrats held it up in Congress, I'd have blamed Democrats.
FEMA screwed up in their response to Katrina, though they weren't the only ones who screwed up, of course.
You can still blame Democrats if you really want.

Nagin and Blanco did far more damage by their inaction and ineptitude. After all, disaster response and planning is first and foremost a local government responsibility.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#108 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I stated earlier that it shouldn't be removed, that the speaker should expose the piece of crap that inserted that and other things not directly related to Sandy.
Publicly and broadcast to every news outlet.
Let people know who is installing pork.
It would be a N.Y. minute and that and others would be removed.
LOL, and you accused me of not knowing how our government works?

The above will happen when pigs fly, GEICO commercials notwithstanding.......
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#109 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
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Two words: Unfunded mandate
Perfectly within the scope of Executive Orders........
Two words: Try again.

In the United States, unfunded federal mandates are orders that induce "responsibility, action, procedure or anything else that is imposed by constitutional, administrative, executive, or judicial action" for state and local governments and/or the private sector.

An unfunded mandate is a statute or regulation that requires a state or local government to perform certain actions, with NO MONEY PROVIDED for fulfilling the requirements. Public individuals or organizations can also be required to fulfill public mandates.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#110 Jan 3, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>How strange! And I thought I was fantasizing about playing shortstop with the New York Mets.
WOW

You must be stuck in the 1980s.

Do you also fantasize about QBing the Buffalo Bills?
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#112 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Two words: Try again.
In the United States, unfunded federal mandates are orders that induce "responsibility, action, procedure or anything else that is imposed by constitutional, administrative, executive, or judicial action" for state and local governments and/or the private sector.
An unfunded mandate is a statute or regulation that requires a state or local government to perform certain actions, with NO MONEY PROVIDED for fulfilling the requirements. Public individuals or organizations can also be required to fulfill public mandates.
OK, I'll try again.

Executive Orders:
http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html

Note especially this part:
Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.

Better?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#113 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>You really don't know how your own government works?

Presidential orders cannot allocate money.

They can legislate, not allocate.
Oh, you mean pay raises for Biden and congress isn't allocating money. You really don't understand much do you?
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#114 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Wishing hurricanes on one's home state over a political dispute is not very tolerant or loving. I never mentioned respect, that is something you added in here yourself.
Saying "but he did it first" is the kind of excuse making one commonly associates with children, i.e. someone 8 years of age.
"Lumping in with all of the others" is actually the tactic I'm expecting next since you are out of arguments........
See my post above, he wasn't disrespectful at all, no problem.

The person I was responding to stated that he was hoping the Sandy victims didn't get any help at all because they voted for Obama.

Not really he stated that all Obama supporters should send one weeks paycheck to the victims.

I merely responded I hope a disaster struck his state and see if he feels the same way.

I'm not out of arguments, I'm running out of patience trying to educate people.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#115 Jan 3, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>Had Bush pushed for a big disaster relief bill, and Democrats held it up in Congress, I'd have blamed Democrats.

FEMA screwed up in their response to Katrina, though they weren't the only ones who screwed up, of course.
The first responders screwed it up most. You know the mayor and governor that kept federal troops out for two extra days.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#116 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
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LOL, and you accused me of not knowing how our government works?
The above will happen when pigs fly, GEICO commercials notwithstanding.......
How did we find out about it?

Now if one of those "conservatives" would just attach a name to that amendment?

They say the bill is full of pork?

Name NAMES.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#117 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
You can still blame Democrats if you really want.
Nagin and Blanco did far more damage by their inaction and ineptitude. After all, disaster response and planning is first and foremost a local government responsibility.
Clearly your kind only DOES blame Democrats, which shows you as the partisan fanatic that you are.

Nagin certainly did a poor job as Mayor, not many would dispute that. But if you criticize him, criticize "Brownie" at FEMA too, and Bush for his apparent initial lack of concern over the human tragedy in NOLA.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#118 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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I merely responded I hope a disaster struck his state and see if he feels the same way.
There's a bit of a flaw in your story.

You responded to someone from Michigan wishing destruction upon Ohio and Virginia.

Regardless, "hoping" a disaster strikes anywhere is neither loving or tolerant........
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#119 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
There's a bit of a flaw in your story.
You responded to someone from Michigan wishing destruction upon Ohio and Virginia.
Regardless, "hoping" a disaster strikes anywhere is neither loving or tolerant........
... but it *is* a typical "liberal" response.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#120 Jan 3, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Clearly your kind only DOES blame Democrats, which shows you as the partisan fanatic that you are.
"My kind" enjoys pointing out sanctimonious hypocrites in a bipartisan manner.

The fact that most ARE Democrats is most likely evidence of the kind of selective outrage they are known for.

Regardless, the national narrative has been, and still is, that post Katrina problems were all Bush's fault. Nagin and Blanco do their jobs, and we likely never hear of Brownie!

Funny how the locals down there know better, they mainly blame Nagin..........but they saw the incompetence everyday.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#121 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, I'll try again.
Executive Orders:
http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html
Note especially this part:
Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.
Better?
And he did that.

Directing the National Guard from 11 states to the area.

FEMA and the $3.6 billion set aside for such matters.

Homeland security and their resources were dispatched.

He didn't need an executive order or an unfunded mandate to do that.

Declaring a state of emergency brought the needed resources.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#122 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
How did we find out about it?
Now if one of those "conservatives" would just attach a name to that amendment?
They say the bill is full of pork?
Name NAMES.
They'll start doing that right after they get rid of the filibuster......wake up, R and D are two sides of the same coin, and they're playing the same game for the same reasons.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#123 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
There's a bit of a flaw in your story.
You responded to someone from Michigan wishing destruction upon Ohio and Virginia.
Regardless, "hoping" a disaster strikes anywhere is neither loving or tolerant........
Wishing the denial of relief and aid for a disaster is too.

I'll look my comment up and apologize if I were in error.
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#124 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
And he did that.
Directing the National Guard from 11 states to the area.
FEMA and the $3.6 billion set aside for such matters.
Homeland security and their resources were dispatched.
WOW, all that without Congress!

So the badly needed disaster aid IS already available!

Has it all been spent?
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#125 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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Wishing the denial of relief and aid for a disaster is too.
True or not, that doesn't excuse your actions........

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