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Caught on camera: Moment ancient bell tower crumbles during huge earthquake in Philippines

There are 164 comments on the Daily Mail story from Oct 19, 2013, titled Caught on camera: Moment ancient bell tower crumbles during huge earthquake in Philippines. In it, Daily Mail reports that:

This is the dramatic moment the bell tower of a Filipino church crumbles and falls to the ground during a 7.2 magnitude earthquake that killed 110.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#82 Oct 20, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
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Without the Catholic Church bringing Christianity to Philippines, INM cult wouldnt even exist. Like I said before...if the Trinity believing Catholics and Protestants are apostates then INM cult is an abomination.
Ozzy,

Catholicism and Protestantism are not Christianity!!! Catholic and Protestant writers have admitted to this fact:

"Christian--From the Greek words Christos,'the annointed one': Christ and ian,'like','similar to'. The word refers to one who lives a life like Jesus, the Christ, are generally known."

"Cristiano" ay nagmula sa pangalang Cristo at angkop na ikapit sa mga taong sumusunod sa mga aral o salita ni Cristo."

Reference:[Miethe, Terry L. The Compact Dictionary of Doctrinal
Words, p.56. Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA: Bethany House Publishers, 1988.}

"whoever he is and whatever he is, he who is not in the Church of Christ is not a Christian."

"Sinuman siya at anuman siya, siya na wala sa Iglesia ni Cristo ay hindi isang Cristiano."

Reference:[Fremantle, Anne. The Papal Encyclicals: In Their Ministerial Context, p. 39. New York, USA: Mentor Book, 1956]

"....the Church of Christ today must be in nature, in power, in teaching, what it was when it served men through the twelve apostles. It is to this Church that all are obliged to belong in order to be saved. Those people who, though doubtful, deliberately refuse to join it, cannot be saved."

Reference:(Father Smith Instructs Jackson, pp. 60-61)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#83 Oct 20, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
That means nothing. If you're so wealthy, why are you not providing funds for all the locales in Europe and North America to move out of those basements and rented halls.
I've already explained that the government committed to these cultural sites along time ago, so they have responsibility.
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Who told you that the Iglesia ni Cristo does not??? Would your Catholic "For Sale" churches including that of Protestants be now owned by the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) if funds are not provided???

There is church and state separation!!! A Vatican State cannot make use of the money of the Philippine State!!! It is the sole duty of the Vatican State to preserve what it had landgrabbed!!!
You have to stop aiding and abetting the 666 Vatican thieves!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#84 Oct 20, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
LOL Im seeing a lot of desperate grasping by Jose and Leisure.
Leisure, how is it you know that Elias is NOT Jose?
Of course I have no idea if Elias is really Jose. Then again, you have no idea if I belong to the INM cult and I just hate being a member too.
Hmmm...who is any one of us here. Frankly, I dont care who is who. I have fun with it and enjoy seeing you get worked up LOL It brings out the best of your insecurities! LOL!!!
Then again, you arent intelligent enough to understand when someone is being facetious. Do you know what facetious means? Use your Google to look it up, m-kay?
I love when Jose quotes Leonard Tuggy because he never brings up what else Tuggy uncovered...Tuggy interviewed Felix Manalo's right hand man and uncovered that Manalo preached the trinity until sometime in the 1930s.
Manalo jumped from sect to sect not knowing what to believe. In fact, he was so confused, he even changed his doctrines 20-30 years later! LOL!! Manalo was uneducated, poor in english, and no skill in Aramaic or Hebrew. He began preaching and had to invent lies so he didnt look like a dumbass. But oops, he failed at that too. The false teachings he passed down are easily exposed so now what the ministers teach and what the cult followers defend make them all sound like dumbasses.
Manalo even lied about attending Berkeley School of Theological Studies. It is proven that he was never a student there.
Keep on defending your Manalo! LOL
Ozzy,

This is Brother Felix Y. Manalo and the true Church he proselytized:

"What Felix Manalo and his Iglesia have done demonstrate all over again that Christianity, when practiced in earnest, always succeeds, not only in spiritual but even in material terms."

Reference: Nick Joaquin, National Artist of the Philippines for Literature (As published in his book, Ronnie Poe and other Silhouettes,(c) 1977.

Stop being jealous and envious!!! The earthquake and the aftershocks have decided against Catholicism and Protestantism in their pagan practices!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#85 Oct 20, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
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So you admit INM would not exist if it were not for the Catholic Church. You should be thanking the Catholic Church every day in your prayers. Ooops...your prayers are too full with thanking FYM LOL!!!!
Ozzy,

God's prophecies in the Bible have to have fulfillment!!! After the turning away from the true faith after the ascension of Christ and death of the apostles in the first century, the Mother Harlot with a daughter (Protestantism) would come out to bring deception!!!

But God's master plan of salvation for mankind will re-emerged in these last days!!! The Iglesia ni Cristo is the last work of salvation and is the Modern Ark which mankind should be boarding in order to attain what is eternal life!!! A Roman Catholic priest attested to this fact:

"....the Church of Christ today must be in nature, in power, in teaching, what it was when it served men through the twelve apostles. It is to this Church that all are obliged to belong in order to be saved. Those people who, though doubtful, deliberately refuse to join it, cannot be saved."

Reference:(Father Smith Instructs Jackson, pp. 60-61)

God's plan are fulfilled in the true Church of Christ, the place where He adds those who will be saved:

"Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." (Acts 2:47, KJV Authorized Version)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#86 Oct 20, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
They won't bloom into a full congregation until the Filipino community of immigrants is large enough to piggyback off of in those areas.
Yet 448 years after the Spanish arrived, and 115 years after they left, 76 million Filipinos chose to be Catholic under their own free will.
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Being Catholic by birth is not a choice!!! Infants know nothing during their baptism by way of the sprinkler system!!! There is no infant baptism in the Bible!!!

Iglesia ni Cristo members by the millions are mostly Catholics and Protestants!!! Ignorance of the Bible is not free will!!! God said, "Choose life"!!! And not the religions under curses and plagues as evidenced by their crumbling to ignominy and defeat!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#88 Oct 20, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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INC would have ceased to exist if Felix manalo didn't get kicked out if the seventh day adventists for committing adultery. His lust for puss on the side had occured to give way to the fulfillment of God's prophecy recorded in the scriptures.
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Old gossips from the spurious religions!!! The Sabbath is no longer for observance according to the Bible!!! It is only intended for Israel and not the Christians!!! Those spurious who came to the Philippines were angry with Brother Felix Y. Manalo for exposing their false doctrines!!! Gossipmongerings and fabrications were their options!!! Their pastors and ministers had scampered away from the Iglesia ni Cristo ministers!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Brain Twister

Surrey, Canada

#90 Oct 20, 2013
most of those catholic churches were made by the spanish during the 15th century. Its a shame very historic.
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#92 Oct 21, 2013
Brain Twister wrote:
most of those catholic churches were made by the spanish during the 15th century. Its a shame very historic.
Brain Twister,

The Catholic Church with their ignorant Spaniards administered the construction but these were actually built through forced labor imposed upon the Filipinos!!!

Also, lands used were the product of landgrabbing under the Treaty Of Tordesillas which was inspired by a Roman Catholic pope who acted as arbiter between two quarreling Catholic countries, Spain and Portugal!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#93 Oct 21, 2013
A Warning To The Public:

Avoid flooded Catholic and Protestant cemeteries!!! Thousands of rodents which escaped from damaged Catholic and Protestant chapels have made flooded cemeteries as their habitat!!!

The animals are known to carry debilitating diseases which have killed hundreds of Catholics and Protestants recently!!!

Don't blame me if something ill happens to you!!! Blame Catholic bishops and Protestant ministers who have no discipline for not cleaning what they built!!! They kept their chapels unmaintained while doing their best when gossipmongering!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#94 Oct 21, 2013
After confirmation of bapitism at 12-13 years old, these youth remain CATHOLIC. You fail yet again.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Being Catholic by birth is not a choice!!! Infants know nothing during their baptism by way of the sprinkler system!!! There is no infant baptism in the Bible!!!
Iglesia ni Cristo members by the millions are mostly Catholics and Protestants!!! Ignorance of the Bible is not free will!!! God said, "Choose life"!!! And not the religions under curses and plagues as evidenced by their crumbling to ignominy and defeat!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#96 Oct 21, 2013
What's your numbers on visitors?

10 million people visit Rome every year to visit the sites of the Catholic Church. 20 million people visit Rome during Jubliee years.

You are not comparable to the Catholic church in any capacity, pathetic INC members screaming 'look at us' while nobody gives a shit!
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Watch for the flocking of tourists, including Catholic priests, nuns, seminarians, and students, to the Iglesia ni Cristo chapels through our INCTV and NET 25!!! Watch the millions this coming July 27, 2014 as we celebrate our Centennial!!!
Also, keep on watching and hearing the crumbling noise of the citadels of falsities as the edifices of the landgrabbing Catholic Church made its way to the morass of historical ignominy!!!
Realo Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#97 Oct 26, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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As if this wasn't obvious already, but Jose shows us that Erano's rant about liars in his cult was valid.
If he went to Cebu city and saw a pile of rubble where those INC towers once were, he would call it a photoshop fabrication by Catholics and Protestants.
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

We have GMA 7 and ABS-CBN here in Guam!!! And what these TV stations are showing were the damaged Basilica Menore del "child which does not Grow up", bells which fell down and which are now "For Sale" to the antique shops, decapitated bodies, arms, fingers, neck, feet of alleged miraculous scarecrows, altars, friscoes, and etc.!!!

Remember that in Bohol, the quake was stronger and none of the Iglesia ni Cristo chapels were damaged but scores of Catholic and Protestant churches got damaged because of the curse and the plague!!! If the matter did not happen to Iglesia ni Cristo chapels in Bohol, the more it will not happen also with oursw in Cebu!!!

You have to stop lying!!! Help move those boulders for these have become eyesores for your sore eyes!!! The priests can't do it, they are pregnant with the "colossal rackets"!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#98 Oct 26, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
After confirmation of bapitism at 12-13 years old, these youth remain CATHOLIC. You fail yet again.
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

There is no confirmation mentioned in the Bible!!! Catholic confirmation should have been the time for baptism since the person could already understand!!! But being a false religion, the Catholic Church has to differ from the true baptism!!! The anti-Christ known as the "666" in the Book of Revelation had made the false teaching!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#99 Oct 26, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
What's your numbers on visitors?
10 million people visit Rome every year to visit the sites of the Catholic Church. 20 million people visit Rome during Jubliee years.
You are not comparable to the Catholic church in any capacity, pathetic INC members screaming 'look at us' while nobody gives a shit!
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko,

The Iglesia ni Cristo chapels have millions of visitors!!! They are former Catholics and Protestants!!! Those undergoing Bible studies are in the thousands!!! And our "Aid To Humanity" undertakings are visited by millions too!!! The whole Metropolitan Manila has to declare a non-working and non-schooling day to avoid problems!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#100 Oct 26, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
What's your numbers on visitors?
10 million people visit Rome every year to visit the sites of the Catholic Church. 20 million people visit Rome during Jubliee years.
You are not comparable to the Catholic church in any capacity, pathetic INC members screaming 'look at us' while nobody gives a shit!
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

But those killed during the Catholic Inquisitions were several millions more than that and here's the admission of the representative of the criminal gangster clique!!! John A. O'Brien, a Jesuit priest reveals:

"'The first law of history', declared Pope Leo Xlll, as we mentioned previously,'is to assert nothing false and to have no fear of telling the truth'. In conformity with that wise principle, we frankly acknowledge the responsibility of the popes in the use of torture and in the burning of thousands of heretics at the stake. Their sanctioning of such cruel and brutal measures is unquestionably one of the blackest strains on the record of the Holy Office and will remain to the end of time a cause of obloquy and shame upon the papacy." (p. 49)

Reference:(O'Brien, John A., Ph.D., L.L.D., The Truth About the Inquisition. Nihil Obstat: Thomas E. Dillon, Censor Librorum. Imprimatur: John F. Noll, D.D., Bishop of Fort Wayne. New York, USA: The Paulist Press)

Now, millions of tourists are visiting the Vatican in order to have knowledge of "unquestionably one of the blackest strains on the record of the Holy Office and will remain to the end of time a cause of obloquy and shame upon the papacy."

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#101 Nov 1, 2013
Not only does the Catholic Church have rubbled churches but also temples with empty pews and are for auction!!!

Here's one more proof of the so-called "Great Religious Recession" involving the landgrabbing Roman Catholic Church!!! The Vatican cult is using E-Bay to ask for help but not the Holy Quadruplets :

Unused church properties to be auctioned for quick sale

BY MATTHEW GAMBINO

The Archdiocese of Philadelphia will auction off several properties in Philadelphia and the suburbs later this month in hopes of raising much-needed cash, it announced June 28. Max Spann Real Estate and Auction is leading the process for the Archdiocese.

http://catholicphilly.com/2013/07/local-news/ ...

Where is the missing Vatican billions??? Produce the money or suffer the consequence of putting up more "For Sale" signs!!!

Catholics must now be informed of the true state of their corrupt religion!!! It is bankrupt!!! And no amount of denial could make an arrest of this very dysfunctional situation!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
lol

San Francisco, CA

#102 Nov 1, 2013
dysfunctional when you take pride of condemning the faults of others....what will you gain Elias????

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#103 Nov 1, 2013
There is no mention of Felix Manalo, INC and the Philippines in the bible!

Catholic Confirmation = saying 'I want to continue being Catholic'. So where does the bible restrict that?

There are lots of things the bible does not mention. Speaking english? Not there. Driving a car? Not there. Using the internet? Not there. Speaking tagalog in a church service? Not there. Going to church twice a week, mandatory attendance and an overseer stalker on your back? not there either. Building a sports arena? Not there. Celebrating Eduardo Manalo's birthday? not there. July 27th celebrations? not there.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
There is no confirmation mentioned in the Bible!!! Catholic confirmation should have been the time for baptism since the person could already understand!!! But being a false religion, the Catholic Church has to differ from the true baptism!!! The anti-Christ known as the "666" in the Book of Revelation had made the false teaching!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#104 Nov 1, 2013
lol wrote:
dysfunctional when you take pride of condemning the faults of others....what will you gain Elias????
Lol,

We are not faultfinders!!! We are anti-false doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant cults!!! False doctrines when able to dupe will endanger the salvation of mankind!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#105 Nov 1, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
There is no mention of Felix Manalo, INC and the Philippines in the bible!
Catholic Confirmation = saying 'I want to continue being Catholic'. So where does the bible restrict that?
There are lots of things the bible does not mention. Speaking english? Not there. Driving a car? Not there. Using the internet? Not there. Speaking tagalog in a church service? Not there. Going to church twice a week, mandatory attendance and an overseer stalker on your back? not there either. Building a sports arena? Not there. Celebrating Eduardo Manalo's birthday? not there. July 27th celebrations? not there.
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Many things are not mentioned in the Bible!!! Biblical prophecies having intended fulfillment in these last days will not mention the name/names of people who are the fulfillment of the prophecies because the Bible was already a closed book in the first century!!!

Prophecies are about the future!!! So, Brother Felix Y. Manalo could be discerned as being the true messenger of God through the result of his work or task!!! The phenomenal stature of the Iglesia ni Cristo is one proof of his calling by God!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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