Philippines Seeks Experts' Help To Restore Churches Damaged By Earthquake

Oct 17, 2013 Full story: Malaysian National News Agency 111

The Philippine government has invited foreign experts to help in restoring historical churches in central provinces of Bohol and Cebu damaged in a recent earthquake, Xinhua news agency reported.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#1 Oct 17, 2013
The land wherein damaged Roman Catholic churches were constructed are not owned by the Vatican Church!!! Even the coral stones and boulders used to form the edifices are not owned by the false Church of Mary!!!

It is owned by the state and by the Filipinos!!! If the government desires to renovate and rebuild the structures, one should bear in mind the laws regarding Church and State separation!!! Any act of the governmewnt to help and aid a separate state and religion is to be construed as a violation of the laws about Church and State separation!!!

If it would still be for use by the Vatican cult, then, it would just be proper for the government not to get involve in its renovation!!! For the Philippine state is not the Vatican state!!! Two independent entities are involved here!!!

The Roman Catholic Church had been remiss in her duties in maintaining the soundness of the structures!!! Therefore, it is her which should bear the consequence of her centuries of negligence and not the suffering Filipino people again!!!

Down with the corrupt Roman Catholic Church with missing billions that could not be explained!!! Down with her graft and corruption:

"In contemporary history one is reminded again of the scandals in the center of Roman Catholicism. Bank scandals, counterfeiting, laundering of Mafia money from illegal business,(Narcotics, prostitution, kidnapping, etc.) name it you have it, kickbacks, hidden wealth-connections with the Mafia, the CIA, Communists and subtle hypocritical connections within the P2 (Propaganda Due-a secret and powerful Masonic Group headed by Licio Gelli).

"The graft and corruption involves billions of dollars. All these eventually leads to the untimely and tragic death of Pope John 1 (Albino Cardinal Luciani) who occupied the papacy for only 33 days ending on September 28, 1978. Research and formal investigations show evidences to murder!"

Reference:(Fajardo, Reynaldo T. Bulletin Today, April 16, 1986, p. 8.)

Tama na ang mga pagkakanlong sa mga kawatan!!! Isauli sa pamahalaan ang nakaw na mga lupa!!! Lansagin ang mga panukalang lalong magbabaon sa atin sa kahirapan!!! Tutulan ang hayagang mga pagnanakaw at sabwatan!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#2 Oct 17, 2013
All Roman Catholic churches which were built through forced labor centuries ago and standing on landgrabbed properties must be subjected to government inspection!!! Those found cracking including those reportedly found with mangrove (Alimango) and blue (Alimasag) crabs in its decaying floors and walls must be declared unfit for occupancy!!!

The presence of cross-eyed graven images both inside and outside of its perimeters and which were alleged to be miraculous must not serve as basis in considering the safety of the structures!!! Government inspections must not be mixed with pagan notions, ignorance, and damaging traditions!!!

Crabs of any kind, roaches, rodents, fruit bats, termites, and the swallows of Capistrano including banyan trees, lichens, ferns, molds, and mildews must be given more consideration for these animals and plants help much in the decay of the structures!!!

If the heritage structures are found with these animals and plants, these must be declared as ruined heritage and a police or safety line must be immediately placed on its perimeters for the safety of the public and tourists!!! We must avoid misundertsanding with the international community just because of a simple negligence brought about by maimings and loss of lives to tourists visiting the sites!!! No repeat of what happened to the Hongkong tourists who were killed because of the Catholic criminals!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#3 Oct 17, 2013
Looks like God is flicking down INC chapels as well. Fortunately there will be no government assistance in rebuilding because inc buildings are insignificant.

INC towers destroyed
Two towers of Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) on General Maxilum Avenue in Cebu City collapsed while cracks were found on the walls of Fort San Pedro, the Bureau of Customs building and approaches to the flyover in Barangay Mambaling

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/507373/bohol-ear...
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#4 Oct 17, 2013
Government entities assigned and involved in tourism and in historical or heritage sites can move for the sequestration of Roman Catholic properties more particularly damaged churches!!! public safety, history, and the absence of ownership papers can be used to advance the idea!!!

Mere historical claims that were made by Roman Catholic conquistadores from Europe including the administering by the Roman Catholic Church of the arhipelago should be laughed at!!! We should learn from history that landgrabbing is not a virtue but a crime:

"Pagan temples were either closed, transformed into Christian shrines or demolished. Their properties were summarily added to the Church's patrimony. The wealth of sundry religions was mercilessly expropriated, their clergy dismissed or persecuted, when not civilly or even physically obliterated. The transfer of political might made an easy transition into acquisitional power, the Roman Catholic Church set in earnest to promote a policy of swift appropriation of real estae, of highly renumerative governmental posts, and even of speculative monetary and commercial enterprises."

Reference: Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, p. 21. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.


"That all priests do not practice all the virtues, that some have fallen into the grave and scandalous error, is a fact which no serious person could deny. From the earliest days priests have been guilty even of heresy, indeed, all the heresies of Christendom have been started and promoted by priests..."

Reference:(Whereon To Stand: What Catholics Believe And Why, pp. 240-241)

To the Roman Catholic Church: "Thou shall not steal"!!! Landgrabbing is stealing!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#5 Oct 17, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
Looks like God is flicking down INC chapels as well. Fortunately there will be no government assistance in rebuilding because inc buildings are insignificant.
INC towers destroyed
Two towers of Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) on General Maxilum Avenue in Cebu City collapsed while cracks were found on the walls of Fort San Pedro, the Bureau of Customs building and approaches to the flyover in Barangay Mambaling
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/507373/bohol-ear...
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

The news story is a Roman Catholic hoax!!! The Roman Catholic Church is a religion of gossipmongers, sinners, and fools!!! A former Catholic priest had testified on the matter:

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)
Imnprove your low I.Q.!!!

"That all priests do not practice all the virtues, that some have fallen into the grave and scandalous error, is a fact which no serious person could deny. From the earliest days priests have been guilty even of heresy, indeed, all the heresies of Christendom have been started and promoted by priests..."

Reference:(Whereon To Stand: What Catholics Believe And Why, pp. 240-241)

Inggit ka lang!!! Lumang picture na iyan noong retrofitting!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#6 Oct 18, 2013
Blah blah blah.
A little geology lesson. The Philippines is located in the 'Pacific Rim of Fire' where seismic activity has been frequent for millions of years. Earthquakes are inevitable. Volcanic activity is inevitable.

The towers of INC in Cebu City collapsed in seconds, just like your doctrines collapse in seconds under scrutiny.

Your chapels are also collapsing. So if you say damaged Catholic and Protestant chapels are God's punishment, damaged INC chapels are also God's punishment.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
The news story is a Roman Catholic hoax!!! The Roman Catholic Church is a religion of gossipmongers, sinners, and fools!!! A former Catholic priest had testified on the matter:
"Church of sinners and of fools."
Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)
"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."
Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)
Imnprove your low I.Q.!!!
"That all priests do not practice all the virtues, that some have fallen into the grave and scandalous error, is a fact which no serious person could deny. From the earliest days priests have been guilty even of heresy, indeed, all the heresies of Christendom have been started and promoted by priests..."
Reference:(Whereon To Stand: What Catholics Believe And Why, pp. 240-241)
Inggit ka lang!!! Lumang picture na iyan noong retrofitting!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#7 Oct 18, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
Looks like God is flicking down INC chapels as well. Fortunately there will be no government assistance in rebuilding because inc buildings are insignificant.
INC towers destroyed
Two towers of Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) on General Maxilum Avenue in Cebu City collapsed while cracks were found on the walls of Fort San Pedro, the Bureau of Customs building and approaches to the flyover in Barangay Mambaling
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/507373/bohol-ear...
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Thank you for admitting that the Roman Catholic Church is a beggar aside from being corrupt!!! For that is really the true character of a false religion!!! Your Holy Trinity has no power at all to extricate the cult from the morass of the so-called "Great Religious Recession"!!!

The Vatican state is not the P{hilippine state and thus when she uses the money of the latter to solve her unbearable and punishment woes, she exposes herself as a gangster religion!!! For the Filipino people and the Philippines have the sole rights to those money and not the pagan Vatican State and Church!!!

Why not ask your bishops as to the whereabout of the Vatican Billions???

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#8 Oct 18, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
Blah blah blah.
A little geology lesson. The Philippines is located in the 'Pacific Rim of Fire' where seismic activity has been frequent for millions of years. Earthquakes are inevitable. Volcanic activity is inevitable.
The towers of INC in Cebu City collapsed in seconds, just like your doctrines collapse in seconds under scrutiny.
Your chapels are also collapsing. So if you say damaged Catholic and Protestant chapels are God's punishment, damaged INC chapels are also God's punishment.
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Poor you!!! When Roman Catholics are made to kiss the underwear and skivies of alleged miraculous saints, there is never a mention of science and geology from the bishops!!! Remember that your Vatican cult still believes that the earth is flat like most of your churches destroyed by the earthquake!!!

There is no collapsing of any tower of the Iglesia ni Cristo chapels!!! But these are what collapsed from the landgrabbing Roman Catholic Church:

1. Hundreds of Catholic fatalities as well as injured.

2. Scores of missing Roman Catholics.

3. Scores of Catholic churches sitting on langrabbed properties.

4. Hundreds of cross-eyed graven images which were advertised as miraculous.

5. Hundreds of crosses which in ancient times were used by pagans to punish criminals!!!

6. Scores of belfries and banyan trees!!!

7. Scores of bells!!!

8. Thousands of pictures of alleged miraculous saints!!!

Remember that it is not only the Catholic Church in the Philippines that got whacked by earthquakes through the years!!! Other Catholic countries too had the same kind of torment!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#9 Oct 18, 2013
AWWW ARE YOU MAD THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE COLLAPSED INC CHAPELS LIKE THE ONE IN CEBU CITY?

Of course the Vatican is not the Philippine state, but the majority of Filipinos are ROMAN CATHOLIC which is why these chapels will get restored and rebuild, because it's the will of the people
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Thank you for admitting that the Roman Catholic Church is a beggar aside from being corrupt!!! For that is really the true character of a false religion!!! Your Holy Trinity has no power at all to extricate the cult from the morass of the so-called "Great Religious Recession"!!!
The Vatican state is not the P{hilippine state and thus when she uses the money of the latter to solve her unbearable and punishment woes, she exposes herself as a gangster religion!!! For the Filipino people and the Philippines have the sole rights to those money and not the pagan Vatican State and Church!!!
Why not ask your bishops as to the whereabout of the Vatican Billions???
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#10 Oct 18, 2013
Such lies!

You don't believe the INC towers collapsed like a pile of sunbaked shit in the desert because 'Pasugo' and 'INCTV' acted like nothing happened? LOL

Typical INC, you will rejoice when death hits others, but when death hits you, you deny that it ever happened. Pathetic.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Poor you!!! When Roman Catholics are made to kiss the underwear and skivies of alleged miraculous saints, there is never a mention of science and geology from the bishops!!! Remember that your Vatican cult still believes that the earth is flat like most of your churches destroyed by the earthquake!!!
There is no collapsing of any tower of the Iglesia ni Cristo chapels!!! But these are what collapsed from the landgrabbing Roman Catholic Church:
1. Hundreds of Catholic fatalities as well as injured.
2. Scores of missing Roman Catholics.
3. Scores of Catholic churches sitting on langrabbed properties.
4. Hundreds of cross-eyed graven images which were advertised as miraculous.
5. Hundreds of crosses which in ancient times were used by pagans to punish criminals!!!
6. Scores of belfries and banyan trees!!!
7. Scores of bells!!!
8. Thousands of pictures of alleged miraculous saints!!!
Remember that it is not only the Catholic Church in the Philippines that got whacked by earthquakes through the years!!! Other Catholic countries too had the same kind of torment!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#11 Oct 18, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>

Remember that it is not only the Catholic Church in the Philippines that got whacked by earthquakes through the years!!! Other Catholic countries too had the same kind of torment!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Would you like to know why Iglesia ni Cristo countries don't get whacked by earthquakes?

Because THERE ARE NO IGLESIA NI CRISTO COUNTRIES. NONE. NAAAADA. ZIP. ZERO.
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#12 Oct 19, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
AWWW ARE YOU MAD THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE COLLAPSED INC CHAPELS LIKE THE ONE IN CEBU CITY?
Of course the Vatican is not the Philippine state, but the majority of Filipinos are ROMAN CATHOLIC which is why these chapels will get restored and rebuild, because it's the will of the people
<quoted text>
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

The will of the people is determined through democratic means such as an electoral exercise and not by the collusion of corrupt politicians and a Vatican cult:

"In contemporary history one is reminded again of the scandals in the center of Roman Catholicism. Bank scandals, counterfeiting, laundering of Mafia money from illegal business,(Narcotics, prostitution, kidnapping, etc.) name it you have it, kickbacks, hidden wealth-connections with the Mafia, the CIA, Communists and subtle hypocritical connections within the P2 (Propaganda Due-a secret and powerful Masonic Group headed by Licio Gelli).

"The graft and corruption involves billions of dollars. All these eventually leads to the untimely and tragic death of Pope John 1 (Albino Cardinal Luciani) who occupied the papacy for only 33 days ending on September 28, 1978. Research and formal investigations show evidences to murder!"

Reference:(Fajardo, Reynaldo T. Bulletin Today, April 16, 1986, p. 8.)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#13 Oct 19, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
AWWW ARE YOU MAD THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE COLLAPSED INC CHAPELS LIKE THE ONE IN CEBU CITY?
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

If there is a religion that cares for everything that She owns, it is the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo)!!! Here's one proof:

'Distinctive, imposing, High Standard, dynamic'

" ... the INC each year dedicates approximately 100 church buildings that bristle with magnificent spires, feature concrete soaring arches, are painted in distinctive pastel colors, and display high standards of maintenance. Enclosed by imposing fences and carefully manicured grounds, each church dominate the local skyline. The imposing sacred structures of this dynamic religion have thus imprinted both urban and rural landscapes of the Philippines."

Reference:(Reed, Robert. "From local to global: The expanding mission of the Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines and throughout the world." Retrieved April 21, 2003 from http://www.ethnicstudies.ucsd.edu/html/spring ...)

Only the Iglesia ni Cristo maintains Her chapels in consonance with building codes!!! She is the only Church that has a Construction and Engineering Department!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#15 Oct 19, 2013
Yet they cant grow in 20+ years. That doesnt look like a whole lot of respect because people are not flocking to join a cult founded by a rapist.

Philippines census shows INM cult at 2.3% for more than 20 years. You will see a decline in that 2.3% by the time the next Philippines presidential election comes around.

Your Manalo leader claims 2013 The Year of Intense Edification and thats because they are losing so many members due to expulsion and voluntary departing.

Since: Jul 13

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#16 Oct 19, 2013
Is this the millionth time you posted the quote about INC chapels being pastel, with fences, and somebody cuts the lawn?

Nobody cares.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
If there is a religion that cares for everything that She owns, it is the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo)!!! Here's one proof:
'Distinctive, imposing, High Standard, dynamic'
" ... the INC each year dedicates approximately 100 church buildings that bristle with magnificent spires, feature concrete soaring arches, are painted in distinctive pastel colors, and display high standards of maintenance. Enclosed by imposing fences and carefully manicured grounds, each church dominate the local skyline. The imposing sacred structures of this dynamic religion have thus imprinted both urban and rural landscapes of the Philippines."
Reference:(Reed, Robert. "From local to global: The expanding mission of the Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines and throughout the world." Retrieved April 21, 2003 from http://www.ethnicstudies.ucsd.edu/html/spring ...)
Only the Iglesia ni Cristo maintains Her chapels in consonance with building codes!!! She is the only Church that has a Construction and Engineering Department!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#17 Oct 21, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
Yet they cant grow in 20+ years. That doesnt look like a whole lot of respect because people are not flocking to join a cult founded by a rapist.
Philippines census shows INM cult at 2.3% for more than 20 years. You will see a decline in that 2.3% by the time the next Philippines presidential election comes around.
Your Manalo leader claims 2013 The Year of Intense Edification and thats because they are losing so many members due to expulsion and voluntary departing.
Ozzy,

Why not employ a private entity to watch the thousands who are joining the Iglesia ni Cristo??? The closure of Metropolitan Manila to traffic last October 14, 2013 was proof of what is going on with the faithfuls of Catholicism and Protestantism!!! They now consider the Iglesia ni Cristo as their friend!!!

And the Catholic and Protestant cults as the hypocrites for abandoning the poor!!! Philippine lawmakers and other government officials declared:

" ... Through the years the INC contributed not only to the spiritual development of many Filipinos but also in shaping the country's destiny.

"Through the inspired leadership of Ka (Brother) Erdie as executive minister, the Iglesia ni Cristo has become one of the country's biggest religious orgnizations and a vanguard in the religious growth of the Filipino people ... the INC also plays a crucial role in improving the socio-economic condition of the followers and other Filipinos here and abroad."

Reference: "INC, Manalo cited by officials for role in RP". Manila Bulletin, pp. 1:3, 5:1, Jan. 2, 2008.

Also, in that issue, the national daily editorialized on the leadership of the Church:

"Under his leadership, the Iglesia ni Cristo has steadily grown not only in the country but also abroad....the cohesiveness of the Iglesia has been sustained over the years, a trait that has served its faithful members well and made the Iglesia ni Cristo an influential social institution."

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#18 Oct 21, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
Is this the millionth time you posted the quote about INC chapels being pastel, with fences, and somebody cuts the lawn?
Nobody cares.
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

We are not Catholics who are into repetitious prayers in their rosaries!!! And in their constant begging for government money to repair eyes of cross-eyed scarecrows which fell from belfries together with the banyan trees!!! Have shame!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#19 Oct 21, 2013
It is very funny for the Roman Catholic Church to inculcate in the minds of their faithfuls that a pope is the Vicar of Christ while at the same time seeking help from human experts to restore churches damaged by an earthquake!!!

The doctrine is now exposed as a falsity because the Bible clearly shows that the true Christ asked help from God and not from human experts!!!

Thus, the pope being Christ's replacement is a "Colossal Racket"!!! The true Christ of the Bible never had such an idea that He has a replacement!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#20 Oct 21, 2013
A Warning To The Public:

Avoid Roman Catholic and Protestant cemeteries that are flooded!!! Thousands of rodents had escaped from their damaged structures and are making their cemeteries as habitat!!!

The animals are known to carry debilitating diseases!!! Unknown numbers of Catholics and Protestants have died because of the plague!!!

Catholic bishops and Protestant ministers have no discipline!!! They lack leadership capabilities regarding chapel maintenance!!! They kept them unclean and unsafe to the public!!!

Don't be sick because of hardheadedness!!! Do not allow yourself to be scammed again by them!!! Masses for the dead is unbiblical!!! The dead knows nothing but priests and Protestant ministers know how to pull out scams!!! Beware!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
balasubas

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Oct 21, 2013
the earthquake victims are more important that these old churches which represent the repression of Spanish colonizers on the natives. I say let them rubble down and just destroy it.

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