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Newsbytes: Sunspot Enigma – Will Inactive Sun Cause Global Cooling?

There are 8 comments on the Free Republic story from Jul 25, 2013, titled Newsbytes: Sunspot Enigma – Will Inactive Sun Cause Global Cooling?. In it, Free Republic reports that:

Something is happening to our sun. If history is anything to go by, the sun's change of mood could affect us all by cooling the earth and throwing our climate change calculations into disarray.

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SpaceBlues

United States

#1 Jul 25, 2013
Oh no! Our sun is misbehaving.. Their goes its inheritance.

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#2 Jul 26, 2013
Yep, something is happening to our sun.

http://www.solen.info/solar/images/comparison...

http://drtimball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/...

It's activity level is lower that it was during the time of warming.

Solar physicists are predicting lower solar activity for this cycle 24 as well as for cycles 25 and 26.

Since: May 13

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#3 Jul 26, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Oh no! Our sun is misbehaving.. Their goes its inheritance.
Not 'misbehaving' the sun is not a constant star, it's a variable star. Sometimes is has high activity as we saw in the last half of the 20th century and sometimes it has low activity as we saw in the Maunder minimum.

Some predictions are for a Dalton like minimum for the next three cycles.
SpaceBlues

United States

#4 Jul 26, 2013
ff missed my post's meaning. Not a constant star? Don't say it, sherlock!!!

From NYT: In Shakespeare's ''Julius Caesar,'' the title character declares,''But I am constant as the Northern Star, of whose true fixed and resting quality there is no fellow in the firmament.''

In modern astronomical terms, Caesar was saying that he was a flaky, unstable guy.

Astronomers have known for some time that Polaris, the North Star, sitting almost directly over the North Pole, is a Cepheid variable, a type of star that is caught in a cycle of bloating and collapsing because it has exhausted its hydrogen fuel.

In this unsettled state, Polaris brightens and dims every four days or so, and over time, its pulsations have been slowing, the period of oscillation lengthening eight seconds a year.

Yesterday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Denver, astronomers reported that Polaris is even unsteadier than they had thought.

Even Polaris's average brightness has not remained the same, reported Dr. Edward F. Guinan of Villanova University. Measurements over the past half century show it has brightened 10 percent. When he and Scott Engle, an undergraduate, checked older records, they found more surprises.
SpaceBlues

United States

#5 Jul 26, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Oh no! Our sun is misbehaving.. There goes its inheritance.
LOL.

Since: May 13

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#6 Jul 27, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
ff missed my post's meaning. Not a constant star? Don't say it, sherlock!!!
From NYT: In Shakespeare's ''Julius Caesar,'' the title character declares,''But I am constant as the Northern Star, of whose true fixed and resting quality there is no fellow in the firmament.''
In modern astronomical terms, Caesar was saying that he was a flaky, unstable guy.
Astronomers have known for some time that Polaris, the North Star, sitting almost directly over the North Pole, is a Cepheid variable, a type of star that is caught in a cycle of bloating and collapsing because it has exhausted its hydrogen fuel.
In this unsettled state, Polaris brightens and dims every four days or so, and over time, its pulsations have been slowing, the period of oscillation lengthening eight seconds a year.
Yesterday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Denver, astronomers reported that Polaris is even unsteadier than they had thought.
Even Polaris's average brightness has not remained the same, reported Dr. Edward F. Guinan of Villanova University. Measurements over the past half century show it has brightened 10 percent. When he and Scott Engle, an undergraduate, checked older records, they found more surprises.
"From NYT: In Shakespeare's ''Julius Caesar,'' the title character declares,''But I am constant as the Northern Star, of whose true fixed and resting quality there is no fellow in the firmament.''

In modern astronomical terms, Caesar was saying that he was a flaky, unstable guy."

Well maybe, but more likely he was demonstrating the perspective, or lack thereof, of his time. During his lifetime Polaris was constant. He only lived a short time and nothing much happened to Polaris during his observation.

Kinda like AGWs. They are so certain man has caused global warming because global warming has happened during their lifetime. Most of the time they have been aware of climate, it has warmed. Therefore the conclusion from a limited perspective is that it has warmed and had never done that before.

A look at history would inform them of other times of warming and cooling, but they must deny those past times to give validity to their conclusions.

No matter, Julius Caesar didn't live long and neither will the AGW premise.

"long" is a matter of perspective.

Aside: before there was Polaris, there was vega.
SpaceBlues

United States

#7 Jul 27, 2013
FF aka Fossil Fuels wrote:
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"From NYT: In Shakespeare's ''Julius Caesar,'' the title character declares,''But I am constant as the Northern Star, of whose true fixed and resting quality there is no fellow in the firmament.''
In modern astronomical terms, Caesar was saying that he was a flaky, unstable guy."
Well maybe, but more likely he was demonstrating the perspective, or lack thereof, of his time. During his lifetime Polaris was constant. He only lived a short time and nothing much happened to Polaris during his observation.
Kinda like AGWs. They are so certain man has caused global warming because global warming has happened during their lifetime. Most of the time they have been aware of climate, it has warmed. Therefore the conclusion from a limited perspective is that it has warmed and had never done that before.
A look at history would inform them of other times of warming and cooling, but they must deny those past times to give validity to their conclusions.
No matter, Julius Caesar didn't live long and neither will the AGW premise.
"long" is a matter of perspective.
Aside: before there was Polaris, there was vega.
blah blah argue in your dreams, twistedbrain.
SpaceBlues

United States

#8 Jul 28, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Oh no! Our sun is misbehaving.. There goes its inheritance.
Great!

The so-called coronal hole over the sun's north pole came into view between July 13 and 18 and was observed by the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, or SOHO. NASA released a video of the sun hole as seen by the SOHO spacecraft, showing the region as a vast dark spot surrounded by solar activity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/28/coro...

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