Utah district sued for segregating children's book about lesbian mums

Nov 15, 2012 Full story: www.guardian.co.uk 33

A lawsuit filed in Utah is claiming that the removal of a children's book featuring lesbian parents from library shelves is a violation of the first amendment.

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#22 Nov 16, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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understand , but when do we begin... children who can witness two of the same engaged in emotion may not be able to know there is a difference
As Gunner said, kids at that age don't know the difference - and I really don't think they would care. They just see two adults that love each other - which in this day in age, is a lot better than the voilent alternative they get on TV, IMO.

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#23 Nov 16, 2012
*violent (sorry, pre-coffee typing)

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#24 Nov 16, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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As Gunner said, kids at that age don't know the difference - and I really don't think they would care. They just see two adults that love each other - which in this day in age, is a lot better than the voilent alternative they get on TV, IMO.
exactly as I said they are great copy cats . for them to distinguish emotion mentally begins when ?????

same sex isn't the world's norm , not a school district

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#25 Nov 16, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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exactly as I said they are great copy cats . for them to distinguish emotion mentally begins when ?????
same sex isn't the world's norm , not a school district
Your logic is just slightly askew. Love isn't the world's norm either - war, hate, racism, etc., are. We, as adults, are terrible teachers - instead of leading by example, we tend nowadays to teach kids how to adapt to a violent and hateful world - always wary and cautious.

If homosexuality is indeed an inherited gene - as I pointed out, then any amount of exposure to it would not affect the child's development in any way, especially a book. I read Slaughter House 9 in grade school - it was a good read, but hardly affected my upbringing. Television violence on the other hand is not an inherited characteristic - instead, more of a learned experience if you will. Sesame Street is an excellent example - my daughter knew her alphabet by the time she was 3.

I was referring more to the love versus violence alternative than the homosexuality versus television alternative.

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#26 Nov 16, 2012
If gay marriages were the 'norm' we would have far less children. They can't reproduce and therefore need children from 'men and women' to 'increase'.
They are a pervertion of the norm.

Mormons and Catholics are the most outspoken about this, so they are hit hardest.
Just because a woman writes a fairytale story that makes two moms and their children look happy all the time and all the children are well adjusted and successful - is a fairytale.

I'm torn about banning it, but when they bring in the ACLU - that shows how desperate they are and shows me that the purpose of the book isn't to entertain - it is to recruit.

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#27 Nov 16, 2012
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If gay marriages were the 'norm' we would have far less children. They can't reproduce and therefore need children from 'men and women' to 'increase'.
They are a pervertion of the norm.
Never heard of artificial insemination or surrogate mothers, huh? I have many same-sex friends who have had chilren together - one lesbian couple has a heterosexual son who is approaching his masters degree at an Ivy League school - not bad for a couple "sinners," huh?

The divorce rate among gay and lesbian couples per capaita is much lower than hetrosexual couples - making homosexual relationships a more healthy environment for children.

Your "norm" is taken from a text book that has been re-written every 100 years since the beginning of that time. You have no idea what the word pervertion means - especially when using in the context the way you did.

I have the impression you'd advocate white hoods for all grade school children.

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#28 Nov 16, 2012
quilterqueen wrote:
I'm torn about banning it, but when they bring in the ACLU - that shows how desperate they are and shows me that the purpose of the book isn't to entertain - it is to recruit.
You really would benefit from an education before posting.

http://phys.org/news84720662.html

http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/10287/20...

http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.b...

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#29 Nov 16, 2012
I found this list of banned books interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_ba...

This would all go away if some morning in the dew a web had been spun that say's...."Some Lesbians"

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#30 Nov 16, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Your logic is just slightly askew. Love isn't the world's norm either - war, hate, racism, etc., are. We, as adults, are terrible teachers - instead of leading by example, we tend nowadays to teach kids how to adapt to a violent and hateful world - always wary and cautious.
If homosexuality is indeed an inherited gene - as I pointed out, then any amount of exposure to it would not affect the child's development in any way, especially a book. I read Slaughter House 9 in grade school - it was a good read, but hardly affected my upbringing. Television violence on the other hand is not an inherited characteristic - instead, more of a learned experience if you will. Sesame Street is an excellent example - my daughter knew her alphabet by the time she was 3.
I was referring more to the love versus violence alternative than the homosexuality versus television alternative.
ummmmmmmm all due respect you are opening categories
I stated emotions .. that covers the whole scoop
frogmann

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#31 Nov 16, 2012
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Gunner

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#32 Nov 16, 2012
I've never heard a gay person say, "Let's go recruit some kids to be gay!" That's preposterous.

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#33 Nov 16, 2012
Gunner wrote:
I've never heard a gay person say, "Let's go recruit some kids to be gay!" That's preposterous.
Lol...well you know, they do have like a gay biker gang in Utah - The Hell's Bangles - they recruit all the time at the Gap and follow the Latter Day Saints around door-to-door.

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George Michael

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#34 Nov 16, 2012
Gunner wrote:
I've never heard a gay person say, "Let's go recruit some kids to be gay!" That's preposterous.
It's a good thing you weren't arount me then!!

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