JMK and Randy Simons

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Since: Sep 16

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#1 Oct 3, 2016
After watching JMK's interview on the ID special, he said something that intrigued me. In addition, the HLN special was frequently posting photos of JB from Randy Simon's work. They were credited. I notice they are glamour shots and a few of them are seductive poses (at least what we see in publications featuring adult models in women's magazines, not porn, regular fashion mags.) Hair blowing back with the makeup and serious face etc.

So Karr was saying that there are people who work within pageants in certain capacities. He brought up photographers and a few other examples. Even if he is full of it and knows nothing about the case in itself, I do not doubt that he is familiar with the world of child porn and it's trade. They had a communication network even before the internet and ways to distribute between each other. Maybe he knows something, or maybe there is gossip in that world. Maybe he just has a good guess from his experience with it.

I did not read Singular's book about Jonbenet, but I know it's about child porn and it's possible underbelly in Boulder or in child pageants. People have said Simons acted strangely after her murder. Those photos he took were taken in June of 1996 and she was dead 6 months later. He was then caught wandering naked on the streets one night in a suburb in an incoherent state. Police said he told them "I didn't kill Jonbenet" without any prompting. The subject had not been brought up. This was 1999. So now I'm wondering if Randy knows something. Maybe he isn't the one who did it, but could he have been selling little girls' pageant glamour pics to pedophile networks? Pam Griffin has said that he asked about taking pics of her daughter semi nude or nude? Kind of a red flag. Maybe Simons felt guilty because he knows or guesses that what he was doing is the link to who killed her. I don't know how much he could have found out. What if a child perv found her pics within this network and set about to have her? He could insert himself into their life or have people within it do that in some way. Go to the home tours, watch the dance class or other things. Watch the pageants, ask questions. Could he have put himself in a situation to be employed either domestically in some capacity at the house or in construction, repair, or even at Access Graphics in order to learn more? At one point it didn't look like Simons had given DNA. Don't know if it's true.

Looking back, even though BPD keep saying they thoroughly investigated and cleared all these people, I don't think we can rely on that. It sounds like they barely did anything and then just dismissed them publicly. We only have their word and we know they have lied at times. Plus they could make some peripheral look and find the most remote reason possible to dismiss them because they didn't want it to be anyone else but the family. According to Singular, when he brought up Simons the DA's office didn't even know who he was. Some investigation.

It's also possible Simons isn't the link but someone working in pageants is. It makes sense to me that there would be jobs within the arena that some of these pedos might go for on purpose. It's just that his behavior was odd and he was the one that took those pictures not too long before her death. Maybe he doesn't even know for sure, but worries that someone will find out he was selling those pics on the underground and again, maybe he feels guilty that his doing this could have put her on the radar of child predators.

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#3 Oct 10, 2016
Depends on who talked to Simons. Did Smit talk to him or even Trip DeMuth? If it was one of the BPD who absolutely do not want it to be anyone other than a family member, how could we trust that they actually grilled him very hard? I'm saying what if the reason he had this breakdown of sorts is guilt over his possibly selling photos or even talking to others in the pedo world about her. Maybe he didn't do anything and he doesn't know who did, but worries that something he said or did could have inspired someone else to do it.

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#6 Nov 9, 2016
Stephen Singular has a new interview on the updated release of Presumed Guilty. It's very interesting. He mentions that after the murder Randy Simons called all these pageant people or mothers in the middle of the night crying and saying he didn't kill Jonbenet, though no one had said he did or as far as I could tell from what Singular was saying that he did. They made a big deal over Patsy saying she didn't kill her baby when she was in the middle of being fingerprinted. Pretty weird that Simons reacted this way when he wasn't on the radar apparently. Even if he didn't, there is something he has a guilty conscience over it sounds like.

I'm really intrigued by this angle. The podcast is called True Murder and it's on Blog Talk Radio or other podcast carriers. It's the newest episode.

Since: Jan 17

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#8 Jan 18, 2017
This is the first I've heard of Simons but I agree that he should have been checked thoroughly... still should be!
As far as my feelings on JMK, I feel like he definitely knows something.

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#10 Jan 19, 2017
jameson245 wrote:
JMK knows what he saw in the media and that was supplemented by Michael Tracey and others. There is no evidence he was in Colorado that week, never mind that day, never mind in Boulder, never mind in the Ramsey house. His confession to Tracey on the phone, the disgusting detailed one, the very emotional one --- he had a lot wrong. I don't think in that emotional state he was playing games or being coy, I think he believes that is what happened and .... well, I think that WAS the situation.

More recently he changed his story. Seems now he wants us to believe he was friendly with Patsy, told he he wanted to have her daughter as his lover and Patsy, thinking him such a nice man, invited him over to enjoy her little girl. Then she - no details on the exact reason why - but SHE ended up killing JonBenet, not him. He was there, he saw it, and -- being that gentleman and all -- he confessed to protect Patsy.

I think the man is absolutely insane and a danger to any child he is near. That's just my opinion, though. You all can decide how you feel about him.
I have not heard this story regarding Patsy. On that show I know he said someone else did it, but he made it sound like it was someone from the pageant world. He mentioned photographers. It sounded like he was saying he knew people in that industry, that he was with him when it happened or called in after to do a "clean-up". He acted like she died elsewhere and was brought back. When did he start saying this stuff about Patsy? He's definitely a nut.

I had only thought that he communicates with the underground pedo world and possbily could have heard something or guessed something prior to hearing this Patsy story.

Since: Jan 17

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#11 Jan 19, 2017
jameson245 wrote:
JMK knows what he saw in the media and that was supplemented by Michael Tracey and others. There is no evidence he was in Colorado that week, never mind that day, never mind in Boulder, never mind in the Ramsey house. His confession to Tracey on the phone, the disgusting detailed one, the very emotional one --- he had a lot wrong. I don't think in that emotional state he was playing games or being coy, I think he believes that is what happened and .... well, I think that WAS the situation.

More recently he changed his story. Seems now he wants us to believe he was friendly with Patsy, told he he wanted to have her daughter as his lover and Patsy, thinking him such a nice man, invited him over to enjoy her little girl. Then she - no details on the exact reason why - but SHE ended up killing JonBenet, not him. He was there, he saw it, and -- being that gentleman and all -- he confessed to protect Patsy.

I think the man is absolutely insane and a danger to any child he is near. That's just my opinion, though. You all can decide how you feel about him.
I haven't heard the newer JMK stories of Patsy. Let's not forget that I am new to this. Lol. I can't quite scratch him off my list yet, but this new stuff will get me closer to doing that. I'm still learning about all the people involved but I DO NOT believe any of the Ramsey were involved or had any knowledge of the crime!

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