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Lynette 22 wrote:
I would be embarrassed to accuse another poster of being intellectually and educationally inferior if my post had as many typing, spelling and grammatical errors as yours has.
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Lynette 22 wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you, yes, a source would be nice. But I believe you are correct and that Patsy did say something to that effect. We can only guess at what Patsy's innermost thoughts were, but my guess would be that, despite her belief that she was healed, the thought of her cancer returning some day was in the back of her mind and after JonBenet's murder her state of mind was at such a low ebb that at times she almost wished she WOULD die in order to be with her beloved child again and that is why she made that statement.
However, I would consider it very unlikely her cancer resurfacing was at the forefront of Patsy's mind on the night JonBenet died. Also, for anyone who subscribes to the BDI theory, there wouldn't need to be a stressor, so the point is moot. She would, in fact, have had to be cool, calm and clear-headed to stage such a cover-up.
There you go reading Patsys mind again. You claimed Patsy believed she was healed from cancer. You agree that she said something to the effect that she would be joining JB soon.(I think it was at their private press conference.) If she thought she was healed, she wouldn't have said such a thing regardless of the situation. No need for you to speak for her and try to analyze her words. They speak for themselves. What's with always making excuses for her? That just shows your need to be right about her and that you don't really care to find the truth.
Patsy didn't stage the cover up by herself so I'm guessing she didn't have to be all that cool, calm and clear-headed after all. IMO
In the BDI theory, there are other stressors. There are also many theories. Not everyone sees everything in black and white like you do. ;)
You IDI seem to think that things could have only been one way or another ("if it was an accident, they would have thrown her down the stairs" is one example that comes to mind.) As if that was the only choice they had. Seriously?
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Lynette 22 wrote:
<quoted text>Oops! I slipped up badly there! Better be more careful next time...
Well, since you always spell "realized" with an "s" instead of a "z", that's a pretty big slip up. No need to be more careful next time. We already know who and what you are. ;)
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The Truth Hurts wrote:
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There you go reading Patsys mind again. You claimed Patsy believed she was healed from cancer. You agree that she said something to the effect that she would be joining JB soon.(I think it was at their private press conference.) If she thought she was healed, she wouldn't have said such a thing regardless of the situation. No need for you to speak for her and try to analyze her words. They speak for themselves. What's with always making excuses for her? That just shows your need to be right about her and that you don't really care to find the truth.
Patsy didn't stage the cover up by herself so I'm guessing she didn't have to be all that cool, calm and clear-headed after all. IMO
In the BDI theory, there are other stressors. There are also many theories. Not everyone sees everything in black and white like you do. ;)
You IDI seem to think that things could have only been one way or another ("if it was an accident, they would have thrown her down the stairs" is one example that comes to mind.) As if that was the only choice they had. Seriously?
Where did I claim to KNOW what was in Patsy's mind? Didn't you see me say "my guess would be"? That means I was guessing, not that I KNEW. It's so exasperating trying to have a discussion with some of you RDI, because the simplest post often has to be explained two or three times to get the message through.

Patsy, towards the end of her treatment, had a CT scan, a laparoscopy and a laparotomy, all of which showed that there was no trace of cancer left in her body. She had surgery from her breastbone to her pelvis and her doctors took over forty samples from her abdominal cavity to check for any malignant cells which may have been lurking. There was nothing, she was clear. The information is in DOI, page 92. So what reason did she have NOT to believe she was healed? She believed it because the tests proved it. Yet after JonBenet's murder she said something about joining JonBenet soon. I don't know why she said that, I don't even know if she was referring to her cancer when she made that statement and neither do you. We are just assuming she was.(We still need to find that source to determine exactly what she said and in what context.)I try to offer an explanation and you see it as me making "excuses" for her. So what is your suggestion? That Patsy lied when she said she believed she was healed? Talk about seeing things in black and white!

In the generally held BDI theory, the catalyst that set the alleged cover-up in motion was Burke killing JonBenet by accident. Now please explain to me why PATSY would have needed a "stressor" for such a thing to happen. I'm speaking about BEFORE this alleged accident occurred, not AFTER. Why would a mother need a stressor for a child to do something by accident? I'd like to hear your reasoning as it doesn't make any sense to me.

I made it quite clear in my post that I was speaking of the BDI theory, one of the most commonly held RDI theories. It would have taken me half the day to cover every single RDI theory out there. But the only theory in which a "stressor" makes any sense is a PDI theory (BrotherMoon's excluded) so unless you follow Steve Thomas' or maybe CommonSense's theory,:), I don't see how a stressor even comes into the equation.

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The Truth Hurts wrote:
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Well, since you always spell "realized" with an "s" instead of a "z", that's a pretty big slip up. No need to be more careful next time. We already know who and what you are. ;)
You can drop the charade now. You're among friends. Bwwwaaaaaa!!
Just shows how much you know! I have never spelt "realised/realized" with an "s". Who do you think I am anyway? GAR? Well, I'm not, but I DO believe you're TWWO. So what? Let's stick to case discussion and leave the personal accusations/insinuations out of it.

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The Truth Hurts wrote:
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There you go reading Patsys mind again. You claimed Patsy believed she was healed from cancer. You agree that she said something to the effect that she would be joining JB soon.(I think it was at their private press conference.) If she thought she was healed, she wouldn't have said such a thing regardless of the situation. No need for you to speak for her and try to analyze her words. They speak for themselves. What's with always making excuses for her? That just shows your need to be right about her and that you don't really care to find the truth.
Patsy didn't stage the cover up by herself so I'm guessing she didn't have to be all that cool, calm and clear-headed after all. IMO
In the BDI theory, there are other stressors. There are also many theories. Not everyone sees everything in black and white like you do. ;)
You IDI seem to think that things could have only been one way or another ("if it was an accident, they would have thrown her down the stairs" is one example that comes to mind.) As if that was the only choice they had. Seriously?
If Patsy truly believed that God healed her, then what must she have thought when her cancer returned?
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Lynette 22 wrote:
<quoted text> Just shows how much you know! I have never spelt "realised/realized" with an "s". Who do you think I am anyway? GAR? Well, I'm not, but I DO believe you're TWWO. So what? Let's stick to case discussion and leave the personal accusations/insinuations out of it.
Pretty sure you did. Believe what you want. You're pretty much wrong about everything anyway. lol

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Capricorn wrote:
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If Patsy truly believed that God healed her, then what must she have thought when her cancer returned?
She blamed the intruder.

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moonjack wrote:
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She blamed the intruder.
LOL MJ, you are probably right

One does have to wonder, with such GREAT faith if Patsy felt that God was punishing her. IF she TRULY believed God healed her, then there had to be a reason God returned the cancer to her body.

Just sayin'

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And Casey Anthony went free!
So did George Zimmerman.

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BrotherMoon wrote:
Burke was cleared, she wasn't, she was indicted and she went to trial.
That does not make him innocent, sir. Now I know he didn't kill her, I know that Patsy committed the murder BUT, don't say he was cleared as if that makes him innocent. GUILTY people are cleared every day. If I go shoot someone's head off right now and leave no evidence and provide a good alibi which somehow is "verified"....I would be cleared.

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That does not make him innocent, sir. Now I know he didn't kill her, I know that Patsy committed the murder BUT, don't say he was cleared as if that makes him innocent. GUILTY people are cleared every day. If I go shoot someone's head off right now and leave no evidence and provide a good alibi which somehow is "verified"....I would be cleared.
That's Mr. Sir to you deary.

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Who will claim Burke for Christmas? John and his new wife with her daughters? JAR with whom he has never seemed close, Aunt Pam, Grandpa Paugh - if he’s still alive. He could always return to Boulder and speak with the police who want to help find justice for Jonbenet. Does he think they found answers for their questions from some place else?

You really don’t need to look any further for Jonbenet’s ‘murderer’ than the person and people closest to her in life.
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Biz wrote:
The BDI theory has never made any sense to me. Intelligent parents would never stage a horrific bondage scene to cover for their son. If it was an accident caused by Burke and the parents wanted to cover it up, the logical thing to do would be to say she fell down the steps. The elaborate scene left at the crime would only be more suspicious and unbelievable. It would be stupid to stage because doing so would only create more questions from LE, more investigation by LE, a more drawn out investigation.
These were intelligent caring parents. If their child died by accident and they wanted to cover it up I would think a bondage scene would be out of the question. It's out of character for a normal christian loving family that had nothing but accolades (even from the step children) for their parenting skills.
If Patsy knew that Burke had been sexually experimenting with his sister, or had she come upon them that night---then the cover-up makes perfect sense. She had to account for the prior sexual abuse and/or what had been going on that night.
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BrotherMoon wrote:
Burke was cleared.
Yes I was. I was 9 years old. on people.

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<quoted text>If Patsy knew that Burke had been sexually experimenting with his sister, or had she come upon them that night---then the cover-up makes perfect sense. She had to account for the prior sexual abuse and/or what had been going on that night.
Perfect sense? No. Not at all.

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Just Wondering wrote:
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If Patsy knew that Burke had been sexually experimenting with his sister, or had she come upon them that night---then the cover-up makes perfect sense. She had to account for the prior sexual abuse and/or what had been going on that night.
It certainly "appeared" from all aspects of the Ramsey behavior, the doctor visits, etc., etc. that at the very least, Patsy was aware that JBR had been violated

Even for those who don't believe it was necessarily Burke, the facts all point to Patsy and/or John knowing and no matter "who" it was, the prior abuse needed to be covered up

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What other reason is there for parents to not question autopsy results showing their little girl was the victim of chronic sbuse with physiologocal changes to the tissue?

These dirty parents didn't want to know who or why or when or how, they just pretened the 'what' wasn't there.

IMO JAR molested both kids as toddlers, molested as in experimented as only a teenager will, this is not the same as true pedophila. If JAR molested Burke it may be Burke went on and molested Jonbenet. That's what happens with abuse, those that are abused often become abusers. That is one way to emotionally deal with the devastation.

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