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Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#44 Mar 2, 2013
I am glad that you are dealing so amiably with being EXPOSED! You manufactured this whole fake scenario about Kolar and now you are helpless to deal with it in a mature manner. Such is life dude.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#46 Mar 2, 2013
Banquo wrote:
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Actually, OM had just mentioned something about BB writing a book of his own. Presumably, this book would entail BB's theory regarding Patsy being an undiagnosed case of borderline/dissociative personality disorder.
As you can see, although BB is highly intelligent, he is also quite completely insane. That being said, madmen can often see the trees with exceptional clarity even though they miss the forest. If what Banquo is saying about Kolar's gaffe is true, then that is quite a huge mistake on Kolar's part and it calls to question his competency as both a writer and a detective.
Please refer to my previous post elucidating and clarifying definitively that what Blue Bottle wrote about Kolar is completely WRONG and without any merit whatsoever. Some people tend to get nervous when others start making bomb throwing type dramatic accusations and are afraid to reexamine the evidence and refute them head on. Anyone confused about the validity of Kolar's claims as misrepresented by Blue Bottle please start reading on page 63 not page 64 which is where we are originally directed.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#47 Mar 2, 2013
Banquo wrote:
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If what Banquo is saying about Kolar's gaffe is true, then that is quite a huge mistake on Kolar's part and it calls to question his competency as both a writer and a detective.
You mean if what Blue Bottle is saying not what Banquo (You ) is saying right?
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#48 Mar 2, 2013
WRONG. Dr. Meyer consulted Dr. Rorke about the injuries sustained by JonBenet and she examined pictures. Now we can parse about what Dr. Meyer wrote in the autopsy and give our own unqualified medical interpretations, HOWEVER, Kolar in no way shape or form misrepresents her opinion as the official opinion of the autopsy. She was brought on to give her opinion and that is what she did. Incidentally, Dr. Rorke was chairwoman of the neuropathology department at Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and the recipient of a medical Gold Medal in Japan for her research.
I'll let the rest of you get back to playing Doctor in your spare time.
Enjoy.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#50 Mar 2, 2013
Banquo wrote:
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How about if you spare us all some time and succinctly elucidate what Kolar actually says about the autopsy findings in his book? Does Kolar suggest or imply that JonBenet was struck on the head first then garroted an hour or so later?
I'm sorry but you are one person using so many profiles and you have just been busted on this thread as well as the others. Narcissistic Personality Disorder plaguing you perhaps? Just kidding...
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#54 Mar 2, 2013
Blue Bottle wrote:
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Hey brianiac. Use your buthery of the English language to expalin the difference between through the system and proximal intestine. And come up with a source for the swelling through the foramen magnum.
I guess while you and "Banquo" are discussing this (who uses which side of the brain?) You have been EXPOSED. There was no misrepresentation by Kolar, no mistake. Kolar was transparent.
UNLIKE YOU. And I guess when writing "YOU" I mean the singular and plural
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#57 Mar 3, 2013
Blue Bottle wrote:
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Hey brianiac. Use your buthery of the English language to expalin the difference between through the system and proximal intestine. And come up with a source for the swelling through the foramen magnum.
You can keep trying to obfuscate and conceal the truth by reposting the same thing over and over again but it is futile. You have been exposed.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#58 Mar 3, 2013
Banquo wrote:
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You are such a coward. Have you no self-respect?
One more time:
Does Kolar suggest or imply that JonBenet was struck on the head first then garroted an hour or so later?
WRONG. Dr. Meyer consulted Dr. Rorke about the injuries sustained by JonBenet and she examined pictures. Now we can parse about what Dr. Meyer wrote in the autopsy and give our own unqualified medical interpretations, HOWEVER, Kolar in no way shape or form misrepresents her opinion as the official opinion of the autopsy. She was brought on to give her opinion and that is what she did. Incidentally, Dr. Rorke was chairwoman of the neuropathology department at Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and the recipient of a medical Gold Medal in Japan for her research.
I'll let the rest of you get back to playing Doctor in your spare time.
Enjoy.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#60 Mar 3, 2013
Banquo wrote:
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Yes or no?
How about if you stop playing 10 year-old troll and answer like an adult.
Hi Banquo Blue Bottle and Brother Moon. You intentionally and carefully concocted a scheme to discredit James Kolar banking on the belief that the people on this forum would be too reluctant to challenge you. As you have seen, yesterday I thoroughly exposed your pathetic gambit. Kolar mislead no one. All we have to do is read one page before the one in which you directed us and everything is placed in proper context. Moreover, Dr. Rorke is a world renowned expert. Not only did Kolar not misrepresent or miscategorize information but gave us some valuable insight regarding the caliber of experts consulted by Dr. Meyer.
OpenMind

Chagrin Falls, OH

#62 Mar 3, 2013
You know what guys? This is not taking THE discussion form whatsoever!!!!
This thread starts in accusation of Kolar's book and ends in accusation of each other...Who'll take you seriously if you cannot control your own behavior??...bye...boring... waste of time...
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#63 Mar 3, 2013
OpenMind wrote:
You know what guys? This is not taking THE discussion form whatsoever!!!!
This thread starts in accusation of Kolar's book and ends in accusation of each other...Who'll take you seriously if you cannot control your own behavior??...bye...boring... waste of time...
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Bla bla bla Poseur...If you read the thread you see that the poster(s) accusations regarding Kolar have been thoroughly discredited.
Steve Eller

United States

#65 Mar 3, 2013
Blue Bottle wrote:
That's right. You don't know the difference between through the system and proximal intestine and you can't provide a source for swelling through the foramen magnum.
Kolar is a fraud and you have to stick your head up your ass to keep from seeing it.
It doesn't matter how competent Rorke is when her statement about the swelling is not distinguished as being from actuall autopsy observation or from a generalization about head wounds.
Kolar insinuates the later without connecting it to the former.
Just like he insinuates Burke without evidence.
Shame on him.
Got that fool?
Dear Lonely Man who makes up imaginary friends and fellow posters. Dr. Rorke was commenting directly about her findings regarding JonBenet's injuries. That is clear in Kolar's book. Kolar is transparent no matter how much mud you sling at him. I'm not playing your twisted little game. Own up to this fraud you attempted to perpetrate against Kolar and then start making demands of me.
learnin

Greeley, KS

#66 Mar 3, 2013
Steve Eller wrote:
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Dear Lonely Man who makes up imaginary friends and fellow posters. Dr. Rorke was commenting directly about her findings regarding JonBenet's injuries. That is clear in Kolar's book. Kolar is transparent no matter how much mud you sling at him. I'm not playing your twisted little game. Own up to this fraud you attempted to perpetrate against Kolar and then start making demands of me.
Steve,
First of all, my number one theory is BDI and parents covered.
I liked Kolar's book and thought it offered us a great deal of information to ponder.
But, I've always been perplexed by this new bit of information offered by Kolar concerning the head injuries. The first thing that confuses is: Thomas, and almost everyone, claimed experts said there was very little time between head blow and strangulation. Some were even at odds over which came first.
Meyer, no doubt, consulted this Dr. Rorke about head trauma. He may have even offered pictures. But, my question is this. Did Dr. Rorke simply present a timeline of head trauma or was Dr. Rorke commenting, directly, on JBR's head trauma? If JBR was strangulated shortly after the head trauma, then, the timeline does not hold. But, if Rorke is presenting a timeline based on what she sees from the pictures, then, why did other experts believe the strangulation took place shortly after the head wound?
I do not, for one second, believe Kolar, deliberately, misled his readers simply to concoct a theory. But, I do believe it's possible that Kolar mistook Rorke's report as a direct description of JBR's head trauma when it was simply a general report of head trauma.
At any rate, if Rorke did report directly, and specifically, on JBR's trauma, why does Thomas and others report that experts agreed that strangulation/head trauma came close together?

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#67 Mar 3, 2013
I just re-read the pertinent pages describing Rorke's input. It does seem as if Kolar is describing a report that was issued, by Rorke, as
a direct description of JBR's head wound.

But I, also, noticed that Rorke gives a timeline of 45 minutes to 2 hours from head wound to strangulation. So, 45 minutes would clear up some of the confusion between other experts stating a short timeline between head wound and strangulation.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#68 Mar 3, 2013
learnin wrote:
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Steve,
First of all, my number one theory is BDI and parents covered.
I liked Kolar's book and thought it offered us a great deal of information to ponder.
But, I've always been perplexed by this new bit of information offered by Kolar concerning the head injuries. The first thing that confuses is: Thomas, and almost everyone, claimed experts said there was very little time between head blow and strangulation. Some were even at odds over which came first.
Meyer, no doubt, consulted this Dr. Rorke about head trauma. He may have even offered pictures. But, my question is this. Did Dr. Rorke simply present a timeline of head trauma or was Dr. Rorke commenting, directly, on JBR's head trauma? If JBR was strangulated shortly after the head trauma, then, the timeline does not hold. But, if Rorke is presenting a timeline based on what she sees from the pictures, then, why did other experts believe the strangulation took place shortly after the head wound?
I do not, for one second, believe Kolar, deliberately, misled his readers simply to concoct a theory. But, I do believe it's possible that Kolar mistook Rorke's report as a direct description of JBR's head trauma when it was simply a general report of head trauma.
At any rate, if Rorke did report directly, and specifically, on JBR's trauma, why does Thomas and others report that experts agreed that strangulation/head trauma came close together?
Hi Learnin,
You raise some good points. I hope that we can agree after reading page 63 that there was NO DELIBERATE attempt by Kolar to mislead and that making that as in inference is a STRETCH worthy of Lin Wood. Dr. Rorke was shown photographs and other evidence and was consulted on the case, she was not describing general head trauma. Dr. Rorke was commenting SPECIFICALLY on JonBenet's injuries. Moreover, it may be up to interpretation what close together means. For instance, 45 minutes may be a long time for one expert while a short time to another expert. There may also be different thresholds (from the authors) regarding how much information and details need to be disclosed.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#70 Mar 3, 2013
Blue Bottle wrote:
That's right. You don't know the difference between through the system and proximal intestine and you can't provide a source for swelling through the foramen magnum.
Oh please do not act like an expert when you yourself (singular and plural) can not tell the difference between Blue Bottle/Brother Moon/ and Banquo. Before you even begin to expound on medical issues solve some of your own personal insecurities.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#72 Mar 3, 2013
Banquo wrote:
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Actually, OM had just mentioned something about BB writing a book of his own. Presumably, this book would entail BB's theory regarding Patsy being an undiagnosed case of borderline/dissociative personality disorder.
As you can see, although BB is highly intelligent, he is also quite completely insane. That being said, madmen can often see the trees with exceptional clarity even though they miss the forest. If what Banquo is saying about Kolar's gaffe is true, then that is quite a huge mistake on Kolar's part and it calls to question his competency as both a writer and a detective.
How are those trees in the forest Banquo/Blue Bottle/Brother Moon?
Eventually you will realize that intentionally and unfairly casting ridiculous aspersions against Kolar will do nothing for your publishing aspirations.
Steve Eller

United States

#75 Mar 4, 2013
Blue Bottle wrote:
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Brainiac thinks you are me.
That is entirely up to you to decide who you are when you are posting on any given thread apparently. We know you use multiple names on this forum and others. It has been well established...this practice wasn't able to do much for you when called into Peter Boyles show a few weeks ago huh was it? Carry on 'genius'.

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