Note-odd detail?

Since: Jul 14

Dallas, Texas

#411 Aug 22, 2014
Just Wondering wrote:
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If there is anything more hilarious than the thought of one man shimmying through that small window, it is the thought of multiple men trying it without leaving traces of their presence in the home.
I saw all kinds of items strewn on the basement floor to be tripped over or stepped on. Surely, condensation on shoes would have left some type of prints on these articles or the basement floor itself. Especially boots--mud trackers. Snow and or soft grass and dead, wet or dry leaves and dirt would have been tracked in on their soles. Yet it is easier to believe in phantom intruders than to believe that the Ramseys may just be the guilty party.
There is no shimmying involved. It has been demonstrated multiple times that a fully grown man could get in through that window. Lou Smit recorded himself doing it. There was dirt and grass on the inside of the basement right next to the open window, where the perpetrators most likely dragged it in as they passed through.

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Swartz Creek, MI

#412 Aug 22, 2014
The side yard:
A place of interest is the South side yard. The Ramsey's property was 125 ft deep by 93 ft long on 15 th street. The backyard side of the house had a alleywall that was 15 ft wide and the driveway connected to this alleyway. The driveway was 26 ft long.
The alleyway is dark at night and is lined with pine trees and wood fences making it hard to view any one walking down the street at night.
The killer said in the ransom note that the house and family would be monitor. If this is true, the killer must had preplan the crime with this in mine. What would be the best location to monitor the family and the house before and after the crime.
Items connected to the crime scene on interest.
White paper note pad located in back hall of house near back steps. Counter.
Placement of water base Sharipe marker use to print ransom note.
Orange can in kitchen for family storage of pens and markers. Kitchen counter by phone.
Ransom note found location. Place on steps of back steps, back hallway.
Storage location of sivler spoon found in bowl of pineapple, china cabnet net to back steps.
Back Door that was missing a metal safty plate that would not lock the door property.
View into JonBenet bedroom window.
View of the son and parents bedroom windows. Monitor lights on or off from these rooms.
View of disable lamp post at the corner of the sun room.
View of Tea cup and pineapple bowl in dining room glass table.
View of basement windows.
View of Pasty placement of travel item place at bottom of back steps each time she travel.
Veiw of the family coming and going day to day.
View of JonBenet out side deck, service door and windows.
With this many views, the place of interest would be the South / West corner property line and the houses that had a view from this location. I believe the killer spent some time monitor the family before the crime from the vantage point.
This may be seen as ground (0).
All of the items connected to this crime listed above can be view from this location. Through the windows and door glass at dark.
The North side of the house was used as a cut through to the alleyway to 15th street by walkers on foot. The walker would pass by the Butler door many time. He would see the paintings Patsy and JonBent was working on before Christmas. He would see the paint tote, paint brushes, green paint and black tape tape to the back side of the framed paintings. These items were move to the basement hall way by the wine cellar just before Christmas. These item was used in this crime.
A Green paint strip was painted on JonBenet chin, a paint brush was broken and used in the crime and the items were taken from the paint tote. The killer place the broken end of the brush end back into the paint tote.
The Butler side of house service door was found unlock that morning. This door was just seps from the basement door and a killer fine a easy way in may use that same easy way out.
This door and room was not easly seen from inside the house.
The lab.
Just Wondering

Mount Hope, WV

#413 Aug 22, 2014
Detective Xyitech wrote:
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There is no shimmying involved. It has been demonstrated multiple times that a fully grown man could get in through that window. Lou Smit recorded himself doing it. There was dirt and grass on the inside of the basement right next to the open window, where the perpetrators most likely dragged it in as they passed through.
Then, pray tell, why John Ramsey admitted he felt the need to strip down to his undies in order to slip through the window? Perhaps he didn't care for the thought of catching his shirt or pants on any less than smooth areas on the window frame.

There were no threads or fibers caught on the window or the sill. There were, however, old cobwebs adhering to the window pane. Surely you do not think it would be possible to climb through that window and not leave a trace of clothing behind--no matter how small that fiber may be?

Since: Jul 14

Location hidden

#414 Aug 22, 2014
Just Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>Then, pray tell, why John Ramsey admitted he felt the need to strip down to his undies in order to slip through the window? Perhaps he didn't care for the thought of catching his shirt or pants on any less than smooth areas on the window frame.

There were no threads or fibers caught on the window or the sill. There were, however, old cobwebs adhering to the window pane. Surely you do not think it would be possible to climb through that window and not leave a trace of clothing behind--no matter how small that fiber may be?
you know nothing about the fiber evidence

Since: Jul 14

Dallas, Texas

#415 Aug 23, 2014
Just Wondering wrote:
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Then, pray tell, why John Ramsey admitted he felt the need to strip down to his undies in order to slip through the window? Perhaps he didn't care for the thought of catching his shirt or pants on any less than smooth areas on the window frame.
There were no threads or fibers caught on the window or the sill. There were, however, old cobwebs adhering to the window pane. Surely you do not think it would be possible to climb through that window and not leave a trace of clothing behind--no matter how small that fiber may be?
You think shedding pants would really make that much of a difference when it comes to slipping in through a narrow frame? Smit did it with trousers on. Maybe John Ramsey did not want to dirty his clothes.
I highly doubt you know anything about the fiber evidence.
The single cobwebs you refer to were recorded by a crime scene technician HOURS after the murder. Spiders can reform damaged webs in less than 30 minutes.
Just Wondering

Mount Hope, WV

#416 Aug 23, 2014
Detective Xyitech wrote:
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You think shedding pants would really make that much of a difference when it comes to slipping in through a narrow frame? Smit did it with trousers on. Maybe John Ramsey did not want to dirty his clothes.
I highly doubt you know anything about the fiber evidence.
The single cobwebs you refer to were recorded by a crime scene technician HOURS after the murder. Spiders can reform damaged webs in less than 30 minutes.
I suppose I may know as much as you know about the fiber evidence--unless you have inside info that the rest of us bloggers and followers of the case do not have.

It depends upon the type of spider and temperature as to whether a web will be spun in a given location. That morning, the web was noted. Not hours afterwards. Also, from what I could see, there was an old, dusty cob web clinging to the window frame. One that would have been dislodged, surely, if a person had shimmied through the window.

Now are you telling me that you can make it through a window that size and not leave a fiber from your clothing on the window frame? A very small, miniscule fiber?

This intruder must have been careful not to step on any of the paper items and clothing that was scattered on the basement floor. Otherwise, the condensation from his soles may have left a footprint.(Surely, we can agree that even though there were no footprints coming or going from the scene, he would have stepped in dampness somewhere before he reached the home.)
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Swartz Creek, MI

#417 Aug 23, 2014
Profile:

Our lab profile show this about the killer at the time of the crime.(His state of mind)
He channel all of his energy into the con. When it fall appart, the crime scene show us how he handle it. Overkill.
The call to 911 was the time it fell appart for him. Metal state.
The Lab.
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Swartz Creek, MI

#418 Aug 23, 2014
Lab Profile:

A crime committed in a house at night with the family asleep at Christmas night is highly SIMBOTLIST.

"serving as a symbol of something "

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Swartz Creek, MI

#419 Aug 23, 2014
Retype : Profile:

A crime committed in a house at night with the family asleep at Christmas night is highly SYMBOLIC.

"serving as a symbol of something "

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Swartz Creek, MI

#420 Aug 23, 2014
Profile

The ransom note printed the word "daughter" instead of using her name as JonBenet. The father was printed in the ransom note as Mr. Ramsey and then John near the end of the note. There was a distance shown toward the daughter by not using her first name.

Why?

The killer view of the VICTOMS in his crimes as a tool. He can not empathize with the victims or their pain in these crimes. He uses the victims to complete his goal. This is why the first name of his victims are not used.

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Swartz Creek, MI

#421 Aug 24, 2014
Profile:

Two foot impression found in the wine cellar and one freash shoe impression out side next to the basement window.

Line from the ransom note:

"We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction."
"The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them."
The neighborhood was a upscale neighborhood.
This was a high risk crime.
The crime was preplan.
Most offten, more that two people involved.

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Swartz Creek, MI

#422 Aug 25, 2014
Ransom note

The killer left us a clue, 118,000

Background:

Mile is an ancient length unit, commonly used by Romans (equals to 5000 Roman feet). When British started using it as a length unit, it was necessary to relate it to furlong which was a very common length unit used in agriculture. 1 furlong is 660 feet. It was decided that one mile to have eight furlongs, that's why there are 5280 feet in a mile (8 * 660 = 5280).

Denver CO.

22.34 miles = 118,000 feet

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Swartz Creek, MI

#423 Aug 26, 2014
JonBenet

"She liked crafts mostly, like making stuff. Painting, she liked painting. Watch movies and dressed up in makeup and dancing, tap dancing, singing. She got bent on taking violin one time, and I tried to talk her out of it, but she just insisted, so we got a little violin about that big, and she took that for awhile and she decided she didn't want to do that any more."

The Lab.
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Swartz Creek, MI

#424 Aug 26, 2014
"Patsy started taking a painting class, and JonBenet drew a lot with crayons and MARKERS. People and flowers. They had a big easel, but most of the time JonBenet painted on a card table in the butler's kitchen. Patsy had her paints and brushes in a white paint tote. Sometimes she asked me to take her paints down to the basement. "I don't want to see it." On the day of the Ramseys' Christmas party, I took the paint tote downstairs.....by Linda Hoffmann-Pugh"

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Swartz Creek, MI

#425 Aug 26, 2014
Detective Xyitech wrote:
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You think shedding pants would really make that much of a difference when it comes to slipping in through a narrow frame? Smit did it with trousers on. Maybe John Ramsey did not want to dirty his clothes.
I highly doubt you know anything about the fiber evidence.
The single cobwebs you refer to were recorded by a crime scene technician HOURS after the murder. Spiders can reform damaged webs in less than 30 minutes.
Black fibers were high on Boulder police list.. but they did not fine a match in the house.
Black fingerless gloves.
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Swartz Creek, MI

#426 Aug 26, 2014
Ransom note writer's profile:

Pretending or trying to have the qualities and manners of people who have high social status.

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Swartz Creek, MI

#427 Aug 26, 2014
Ransom note:

Premeditated base on actions.

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Swartz Creek, MI

#428 Aug 26, 2014
Ransom Note:

The killer new what time John will be up. He know his wake up patterns and times.
The South side property view is a place of interest.

Line from the note:
"I will call you between 8 and 10 a.m. tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. "

The killer new John would be up before 8:00 am on the day after Christmas.
Think about this.

The Lab.

Since: Aug 09

Round Rock, TX

#429 Aug 27, 2014
Detective Xyitech wrote:
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It could play to his benefit in delaying the body being found or throw detectives off by writing false information.
Patsy sounds too genuine in the 911 call for this to be staged. The Ramsey family had a very comfortable life with privileges and wealth, they would not risk it by killing their daughter.
They did not kill their daughter. That is why Patsy sounds so distraught because she knows exactly WHO did it, it was Burke. Yes it was unintentional. The kids got up after being put to bed and started arguing and he hit her with a golf club.
Burke had a violent history and he had already cold cocked JB when she was several years younger with a golf club!

Patsy knew or thought JB was dead and they drugged Burke, sent him to bed and created this horrible fake kidnapping. Did you hear the way they talked to him on the 911 call? You bet Patsy was upset. Her son killed her daughter, and she was distraught at that loss and over who did it.

They wanted to cover it up at all costs no matter who thought they did it. They just didn't want anyone to know Burke did it. Can you even imagine what went thru Patsy's head? I am not even sure John knew what had happened or how she handled it until the ransom note was discovered. it was her handwriting and he recognized it. Also when he went on a house search he knew exactly where to go to find the body. Witnesses said his behavior seemed forced or acting out, when he brought the body up.
There was no intruder.

Since: Aug 09

Round Rock, TX

#430 Aug 27, 2014
learnin wrote:
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Kidnappers do not write their ransom note on the premise, in their own handwriting, etc. Kidnappers do not write novels, they make it short and sweet. A kidnapper would not take his
victim down to the basement where an exit through the window would be extremely difficult; he would go out the first door he encountered.
This ransom note was not written by a stranger who wanted to kidnap this girl. It was written
by someone who wanted to misdirect; confuse the crime scene. It was not a kidnapping or an attended kidnapping because the ransom note would have been written before entering the house and not in the authors handwriting. If this was a kidnapping, the kidnapper had the victim on the first floor without anyone hearing. He would have gone out the nearest exit.
This is elementary....first grade detective work....It was staging pure and simple...misdirection. Only someone, who knew they would be a first class suspect, would try to misdirect.
Exactly. No detective would ever think that a stranger did all this. A stranger of course might have tried to kidnap Jb or kill her, but a true kidnapper would Never stand there and write SEVERAL practice notes and make it a ransom "novel". That is so dumb.
Even the police KNEW that everything was staged but they were so inept that they could not prove it. Patsy's sister went over the next day and took all kinds of things out of the house, including JBs golf clubs which he asked for. Now why would he need those? It was winter time and besides, isn't he grieving? yeah right.
Neither parent did it, but they would go to the ends of the earth to protect Burke who was probably disturbed in some way and had tried to hurt JbR before. Why people still insist it was an intruder is beyond the pale.
Children do kill. No they are not serial killers, they kill for child - type reasons. A toy, a game, yu got more gifts than me...JB even told her mom she wanted to share some of her gifts with Burke because she got more than he did! hmmm.
No one will ever arrest him. He will never go to prison. he perhaps does not even remember. But this is the only theory that works. The first time I head this was on a Fox news talk show and one person called in and said neither parent would continue to cover for each other!
But they would cover it up for the remaining child who was a child not a teen or an adult.

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