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deb

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#1 Nov 29, 2007
17 A. Detective Harmer inherited I think
18 the Fleet and Priscilla White assignment, if
19 you will, and was friends with them,
20 compassionate to them trying to do her job as
21 a police detective.

Q. Yes. His friends that were house
3 guests, did you all ever get any
4 non-testimonial evidence, hair, DNA,
5 handwriting from Mr. Cox or Mr. Gaston?
6 A. I believe Detective Harmer received
7 that assignment and made attempts to conduct
8 that investigation. And I'm not sure whether
9 or not she was successful in those attempts.
Capricorn

New York, NY

#2 Nov 30, 2007
They WERE successful and the Whites were subjected to all the same tests for DNA, handwriting and alibis as everyone else

EVERYONE around the Ramseys provided more than the Ramseys did, AND willingly AND without attorneys AND nobody ELSE left Boulder....except for the Stines, but that's a whole different kettle of fish

By the way Deb, do you know if the STINES provided any samples to the police?
Henri McPhee

Plymouth, UK

#3 Nov 30, 2007
I agree with deb about this.

Fancy putting a rookie and novice female cop like Jane Harmer in charge of investigating Fleet White and his accomplices. That was never a thorough or proper, or even a professional investigation. That was disregarding leads and suspects.

Nobody knows about Fleet White's murky background in California because nobody has ever bothered to investigate it.

What we do know about Fleet is that Fleet and Priscilla seem to know the mother of Nancy Krebs well. There is very real evidence that Nancy's mother is involved in the child prostitution business.

Even the Borg don't deny that Fleet White might have known the Boykins in California. The Boykins are unsavory characters. One or two of the Boykins have been involved in garrottes of little girls in the past.

Just because Fleet White may be charming and sexually attractive doen't mean that he's not a murderer, as Nelly seems to think. You mustn't be like Nelly, and assume, and err on the side of leniency in these murder cases. Just because Fleet White may be above a certain taxable level doesn't make him innocent, as Don Bradley on Jameson's forum seems to think.

In my opinion, the California police should pull up their socks and do a complete background check on Fleet White, and even on Gaston and Cox.
Capricorn

New York, NY

#5 Nov 30, 2007
Henri states:

"Nobody knows about Fleet White's murky background in California because nobody has ever bothered to investigate it."

If NOBODY knows then how do you even dare to claim it is "murky"?
Dee

Mount Holly, NJ

#6 Nov 30, 2007
deb, your attempt is indeed appalling. The fact that you want to go that route is scary.
Ashley

Avondale, AZ

#7 Nov 30, 2007
Why is that scary, Dee? There is a killer of a little girl out there whom has never been brought to justice. Why, is it ok, it's the Ramsey's but NOT the Whites. No one knows who do this so let the evidence speak.

Imo, it speaks to the Whites as well as other suspects, whom have not been investigated under a microscope like the R's Have.

I wouldn't let Harmer investigate a dog.
Ashley

Avondale, AZ

#8 Nov 30, 2007
That should say: who would do this to JonBenet? Jsut tell me this: Why is it so easy to believe the Ramsey's did this to their own child, but not a close friend of the family? The odds are it was exactly someone like Fleet White.
koldkase

Athens, GA

#9 Nov 30, 2007
Ashley, you've been told over and over, given the OFFICIAL SOURCES, even the BPD's OWN WEBPAGE, that the Whites have been investigated MORE than anyone else, and you CONTINUE TO LIE ABOUT IT.

Just because you are DESPERATE for an intruder, and just because you hate the Whites, does NOT mean whatever you WANT to believe is the truth, all EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY.
Nelly

AOL

#10 Nov 30, 2007
FOTFL! Ooooh, maybe the White's and their guest's weren't tested!
What in the name of good Southern sense do you people REALLY think of John Ramsey?! LOL he'd have to be a complete dullard not to throw a royal fit, along with Lin Wood, Alex Hunter, Hal Haddon, and even his crazy sister in law, if those people weren't tested!
Thanks for starting my day with a laugh:D
Ashley

Avondale, AZ

#11 Nov 30, 2007
Lies? NEVER, have I seen anything even remotely suggesting (by competant Investigators) that the WHITES have been cleared.

Cleared? Based on what?

If, I knew he had been cleared I wouldn't waste my time suspecting him, like you do the Ramsey's.
Ashley

Avondale, AZ

#12 Nov 30, 2007
PS, KK... I don't HATE the Whites. I want the killer found. Don't you want the same?

I can't help that I suspect him based on his own actions and behaviour. Although true, i do hate the killer of this child, I don't hate HIM, until I know without a shadow of a doubt, he's the killer.

Like I've said many times before, there are definitely others who are very suspicious and, they ALL should have their DNA checked and checked again.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#13 Nov 30, 2007
Steve Thomas's information is very old. I doubt that the police do not have DNA from the Coxes or Gaston's or handwriting exemplars. Team Scamsey would be screaming if they didn't and leaking that information.
FoolsGold

Grand Rapids, MI

#14 Dec 2, 2007
I don't think any particular training or experience is really necessary to assemble the basic information as to who Fleet's houseguests were, where they lived and what they did. It seems a rather unchallenging assignment. Ofcourse for the BPD ... who knows?
SeenItAll

AOL

#15 Dec 6, 2007
It seems to me that if Fleet White was guilty of anything at all, he would never have constantly urged people -- the D.A., the Boulder Police, the Governor -- to bring in a special prosecutor. If he was guilty of anything, that would be the last thing he would ever want.
Mary

Hummelstown, PA

#16 Dec 6, 2007
SeenItAll wrote:
It seems to me that if Fleet White was guilty of anything at all, he would never have constantly urged people -- the D.A., the Boulder Police, the Governor -- to bring in a special prosecutor. If he was guilty of anything, that would be the last thing he would ever want.
That's very logical reasoning, SIA. But you see, the IDI's minds don't work that way. They prefer the convoluted route.

In their scenario, FW's thought processes go something like this:

Step 1. I did it.
Step 2. If I keep quiet, they'll suspect me.
Step 3. I don't want to be a suspect. That's yucky.
Step 4. Golly gee, what to doÖ.what to do?
Step 5. Aha! Got it! I'll fool them into thinking I REALLY, REALLY want a special prosecutor.
Step 6. If they believe I REALLY, REALLY want a special prosecutor, they'll think I must be innocent, because a guilty person would never demand such a thing.
Step 7. Damn, Iím good!(huge sigh of relief).

Itís perfect, donít you think? IDIs neednít waste any more time making up lurid stories about FWís California days. All they need is his college transcript. If Fleet took Psych 101 - which always includes a discussion of reverse psychology - well, end of story. He did it.

And if that doesnít convince you, they will reverse the reverse psychology. The possiblities are endless ;)
Patricia Fox

Atlanta, GA

#17 Dec 7, 2007
Mary wrote:
<quoted text>
That's very logical reasoning, SIA. But you see, the IDI's minds don't work that way. They prefer the convoluted route.
In their scenario, FW's thought processes go something like this:
Step 1. I did it.
Step 2. If I keep quiet, they'll suspect me.
Step 3. I don't want to be a suspect. That's yucky.
Step 4. Golly gee, what to doÖ.what to do?
Step 5. Aha! Got it! I'll fool them into thinking I REALLY, REALLY want a special prosecutor.
Step 6. If they believe I REALLY, REALLY want a special prosecutor, they'll think I must be innocent, because a guilty person would never demand such a thing.
Step 7. Damn, Iím good!(huge sigh of relief).
Itís perfect, donít you think? IDIs neednít waste any more time making up lurid stories about FWís California days. All they need is his college transcript. If Fleet took Psych 101 - which always includes a discussion of reverse psychology - well, end of story. He did it.
And if that doesnít convince you, they will reverse the reverse psychology. The possiblities are endless ;)
FOTFL..Mary, this is priceless....
Mary

Hummelstown, PA

#18 Dec 7, 2007
Patricia Fox wrote:
<quoted text>
FOTFL..Mary, this is priceless....
Ahahahaaa! It's so true, though, isn't it, PF.

Patsy would turn over in her grave if she knew what the IDIs have done to her ransom note!
etal

AOL

#19 Dec 26, 2007
Ashley wrote:
... Why, is it ok, it's the Ramsey's but NOT the Whites. No one knows who do this so let the evidence speak.
Imo, it speaks to the Whites as well as other suspects, whom have not been investigated under a microscope like the R's Have...
Oh honey, Topix is infested with FFJ and WS acolytes of Tricia, who KNOW'S THE FLEET WHITE FAMILY. Tricia is such a tyrant over any mention of FW being a suspect on her forums and has apparently sent her bots over here to beat down anybody who mentions FW, Nancy Krebs, California, California houseguests, FW christmas pictures (Reckon Nancy's mom was in one of those pics? Why else withhold them from the public? Sure would go a long way toward vindicating NK's story, wouldn't it? If she's not in them, then explain why can't we see all the pictures?)

But don't get sucked in. The Ramsey's didn't raise a fuss about the lack of investigating of FW because to open the FW pandora's box would unleash hell on them as well. Just read NK's depo's, and then look at all the evidence in light of what she say's about pedo rings and how they actually molest the poor children imprisoned by their perversions. Then consider that it is beyond dispute that the Kreb's family knew the White's. It all fits.
Right on the Money

New York, NY

#20 Dec 28, 2007
etal wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh honey, Topix is infested with FFJ and WS acolytes of Tricia, who KNOW'S THE FLEET WHITE FAMILY. Tricia is such a tyrant over any mention of FW being a suspect on her forums and has apparently sent her bots over here to beat down anybody who mentions FW, Nancy Krebs, California, California houseguests, FW christmas pictures (Reckon Nancy's mom was in one of those pics? Why else withhold them from the public? Sure would go a long way toward vindicating NK's story, wouldn't it? If she's not in them, then explain why can't we see all the pictures?)
But don't get sucked in. The Ramsey's didn't raise a fuss about the lack of investigating of FW because to open the FW pandora's box would unleash hell on them as well. Just read NK's depo's, and then look at all the evidence in light of what she say's about pedo rings and how they actually molest the poor children imprisoned by their perversions. Then consider that it is beyond dispute that the Kreb's family knew the White's. It all fits.
Ashley and et al,

You know you IDIs are all nuts. You echo CL every time you open your mouths. Tricia sends no one any where. You are all so consumed with a conspiracy theory in the JB case you can't see the facts in front of you.j
etal

AOL

#21 Dec 28, 2007
Right on the Money wrote:
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Ashley and et al,
You know you IDIs are all nuts. You echo CL every time you open your mouths. Tricia sends no one any where. You are all so consumed with a conspiracy theory in the JB case you can't see the facts in front of you.j
What you say would not even make half assed sense even if I WERE an IDI. Read my post again. I DO NOT believe there was an intruder.

As for your accusations of being "consumed by conspiracy theory" what the hell do you think the R's engaged in when they conspired to cover-up the crime? Do you people over at FFJ as WS not constantly try to untangle this "conspiracy" by "theorizing"?

Plus, who or what the hell is CL?

If Tricia does not send you over here, then you are all mindless, brainless, robots who enforce her dogma of pretending FW is as innocent as the driven snow without even being asked. That is sad.

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