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JACK

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#1
Jun 23, 2007
 
Is he still a suspect?was he ever on the police list of suspects?
icedtea4me

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#2
Jun 23, 2007
 
I don't recall ever seeing Tom Miller listed as a suspect.
JACK

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#3
Jun 23, 2007
 
What would link Tom Miller to this case?what did he do to have his name linked in?
Are we barking up the wrong tree?
candy

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#4
Jun 23, 2007
 
Tom Miller is a lawyer and handwriting expert. He was hired by the Globe magazine, and accompanied a Globe reporter, Craig Lewis, to the home of Donald Vacca, who was analyzing the ransom note for the Ramseys. Lewis tried to bribe Vacca with $40,000 cash for a copy of the ransom note. Vacca turned in Lewis and Miller at the behest of Hal Haddon, who hired him. Lewis settled, Tom Miller took his case to trial and was aquitted by a jury in 1 and a half hours, including the lunch hour.
JACK

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#5
Jun 23, 2007
 
Thanks Candy-For some reason Henri has him on his list of suspects,over the years several things must have come up about him to make him think he could have been involved in someway.
Henrietta McPhee

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Jun 24, 2007
 
Tom Miller is a bit of a strange character to me. From what I can gather about him he can read latin and greek.

I believe Tom Miller started off his working life as some sort of a private investigator. I think he worked for the famous Pinkertons agency before starting his own private investigation business. He then became a lawyer in about 1995/1996, after selling his own private investigation business. He also seems to have worked as a substitute teacher, I think in adult education classes.

I think Tom Miller had a heart attack in about 1995. It sounds to me that his health is not all that robust.

In fact Tom Miller seems to be a 'jack of all trades' and I sometimes wonder what other trades he might have been involved with. Who exactly were his clients in the private investigation business? Were any of them shady characters, or perhaps in the cocaine importation, or child sex and child porn business?

From what I've read Colorado private investigators seem to be less wll regulated than in some other parts of America.

There was a British Observer magazine article, I think last year, which mentioned Tom Miller had a load of rifles stored in one of the rooms of his house. Goodness knows what that was all about. His wife Judith Phillips tried to explain that on Forums for Justice last year. I'm still a bit mystified by it.

I'm still not terribly sure why Tom Mileer was prosecuted in 2001. I have my own little theories about it. The official line seems to be that former Ramsey lawyer Hal Haddon was explosively angry because Tom Miller and the Globe tried to bribe Don Vacca, who was being employed as a Haddons detective at the time.

The law of commercial bribery is difficult for anybody to understand. I think it's something to do with the rule that an expert witness like Don Vacca is not allowed to discuss confidentail lawyers information with anybody, including the Globe and Tom Miller, or accept bribes for that information.

My own theory is that Hal Haddon had it in for Tom Miller, and Fleet White, and Steve Thomas and Haddon wanted to get them cross-exmined in a courtroom about the Ramsey case. I don't know if it's because those chracters are just anti-Ramsey, or whether it's because one or two of them might have been involved, somehow, in the JonBenet murder.

This is an interesting internet quote about that Miller court case, from the internet:

"March 4, 2000: A Jefferson County judge Friday refused to disqualify the prosecutor from the case of a man indicted in the attempted sale of the JonBenet Ramsey ransom note.

Lawyers for former lawyer Thomas Miller wanted prosecutor Dennis Hall thrown off the case because he reported Miller for calling CBI agents "a bunch of f------ Nazis" and giving Hall the Nazi salute after court hearings in December."
JACK

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Jun 28, 2007
 
This just another missing piece of the puzzle.maybe he knows something,maybe not.for some reason he has not been on the Radar like many suspects have,so he maybe a dead horse.
candy

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Aug 3, 2007
 
Since a chapter is coming out, I'm waiting for the chapter about Fleet White, who went to jail for contempt of court, and Steve Thomas, who he claims, was never served. There is nowhere to hide for either of these idiots, for whom, the beginning of the end of any crediblity whatsoever was this case. As Dave Williams, who also tried in vain to subpoena Steve Thomas wisely put in a sworn affidavit, a smoking gun about Steve Thomas and subpoenas:

www.cybersleuths.com

Affidavit of David Williams

On May 22, 2001, at 8:36 pm at (address redacted), County of Jefferson, Colorado,*****, the home address of Steve Thomas, I personally served a copy of the subpoena in a Civil Case to Steve Thomas by identifying the document, along with the date and time of appearance, and then by dropping it, after Thomas refused to take it, along with a $90 check for witness per diem and travel fee.

Dated May 24th, 2001
David Williams
Denver, Colorado
Tricia

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Aug 3, 2007
 
Fleet White served jail time for refusing to appear in court so he obviously didn't try to hide anywhere... and didn't the process servers admit that they lied about serving Thomas?
deb

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Aug 3, 2007
 
Judith Phillips surely didn't like Patsy AND does not sound like a very nice person - I wonder if she and John ever had a personal relationship - he did follow her out to Colorado. JEALOUSY??

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Aug 4, 2007
 
deb wrote:
Judith Phillips surely didn't like Patsy AND does not sound like a very nice person - I wonder if she and John ever had a personal relationship - he did follow her out to Colorado. JEALOUSY??
Wow, talk about grasping at straws!

Jealousy over John??????? Now THAT's funny

You have NO idea WHAT kind of person Phillips is NOR do you know whether or not she "liked" Patsy

You guys just make it up as you go along to rationalize

Do you have ANYTHING to back up those allegations?

Of course not
RiverRat

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Aug 4, 2007
 
deb wrote:
Judith Phillips surely didn't like Patsy AND does not sound like a very nice person - I wonder if she and John ever had a personal relationship - he did follow her out to Colorado. JEALOUSY??
Are you saying that John stalked her too like he did when he sat outside the home of his ex-mistress?!

Ewwww - and that was before his plastic surgery. Uck!
deb

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Aug 4, 2007
 
Capricorn wrote:
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Wow, talk about grasping at straws!
Jealousy over John??????? Now THAT's funny
You have NO idea WHAT kind of person Phillips is NOR do you know whether or not she "liked" Patsy
You guys just make it up as you go along to rationalize
Do you have ANYTHING to back up those allegations?
Of course not
It was just a thought...but you are right I do not know anymore than YOU DO!!!
Henri McPhee

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Aug 4, 2007
 
Tricia wrote:
Fleet White served jail time for refusing to appear in court so he obviously didn't try to hide anywhere... and didn't the process servers admit that they lied about serving Thomas?
No.

This is from the transcript of the Tom Miller case in 2001 with regard to the matter of Fleet White and Steve Thomas and their subpoena legal tangles:

The Court:

ďThe Court has been provided with a copy of a return of service that represents that Mr White was served on June 3rd at 3:50pm at what must be his residence address in Boulder, Colorado, by personally handing the subpoena to Fleet White. The CourtÖ and this is a notarised document. The Court believes that this is adequate evidence of a proper service as to Fleet White and the Court is going to issue a bench warrant and set bond in the amount of $1000 cash, surety, or property.

The Court would note that Mr White did fail to appear on May 3rd. He later - when he was subpoenaed early in the morning. He later appeared at 4:30 in the afternoon after apparently receiving some prompting to appear, since a warrant was issued but I stayed in the morning. When he appeared he went on record in this case without any counsel being present, at which time I explained to Mr White how important it was to comply with subpoenas, and that you canít just ignore court orders, or subpoenas to appear in court at some length.

So Iím completely satisfied that he understands the nature of the subpoena. And Iím sure he understands that, by not appearing that a warrant was likely going to be issued for his arrest. Because Iím quite confident I told him that would happen.

The Court has been provided with a document reflecting service on Mr Thomas in Arvada, Colorado, on June 3rd at 6:10 p.m., requiring him to be here at 8:30. Itís signed and notarised. Although I have a copy, not the original, and it reflects that the service was by personally handing the subpoena to Mr Thomas.Ē
candy

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Aug 4, 2007
 
Thank you Henri. There's a lot more in both of their contempt hearings, which I posted. Yeah, they are both finished and these "incidents" will be used to grill both of them the only place it matters, UNDER OATH.

The whole situation with Miller, attorney for the Globe, accompanying a "client" like Lewis to Vacca's home, is most unusual, as Don Bradley and others have noted for years. And what did Doc Miller think working for The Globe was all about? By then, they had already dumpster dived for autopsy photos and put them in their rag.
jameson

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Aug 4, 2007
 
From what I understand, JudithPhillips had not been a very good wife and her marriage was in serious trouble. She and her husband gave it another go - but she couldn't be good -- and it ended.

There was never anything between Judith and the Ramseys -- they were friends of her husband. She was just someone who was married to a man they rather liked.
Ashley

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Aug 4, 2007
 
Thanks for sharing that jams, I didn't realize they were friends with her ex and not really her.

That explains her bad behaviour a little better.

What a vile one she is.
koldkase

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#18
Aug 4, 2007
 
Ah, I see the REAL gossip mongers are out spreading their RST hatred of all who don't love child killers like they do.

And attacking living innocent children while they're at it.

What a lovely following the Ramseys have. Says so much about the true character of the Ramseys.
koldkase

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Aug 4, 2007
 
Tricia wrote:
Fleet White served jail time for refusing to appear in court so he obviously didn't try to hide anywhere... and didn't the process servers admit that they lied about serving Thomas?
Yeah, but don't expect those little facts to get in the way of the ever vengeful candy. Refuse to return her stalking phone calls and emails year in and year out, and sooner or later she's going to start obsessively calling you names and exaggerating your "crimes against humanity" sure as the sun is going to shine.

But you, Tricia, are clearly in violation of the "No one is allowed to reveal case information, url links, or develop resource contacts but Candy" Wingnutz Rule of Law. That carries a punishment of up to 100 years of harassment, doncha' know?

Or you could just attract her negative attention by existing without her permission. That crime should carry the death penalty in her world, where she is the Red Queen and OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

At any rate, anyone who wants to know the scandal of yet another Ramsey driven injustice during their rape of our legal system can go to FFJ and read about Tom Miller's trial in the public transcript from it, in which he was found not guilty of any crime whatsoever. Not to mention, one can clearly see the unabashed influence of the Ramsey's high-powered lawyers in hammering anyone into dust who would testify against the Ramseys. It's all in the public record, UNDER OATH.
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Aug 4, 2007
 
Her husband had been friends with the Ramseys in Atlanta. Judith was there, but she and Patsy didn't hang in the same circles -- Judith was not at all like Patsy. Different POV on so many things.

Judith's husband levt - moved to Boulder - I understand he moved alone because Judith had a wandering eye. Judith followed later and they tried again. But I heard Judith couldn't be a good wife so -- well, it ended.

She was, it would appear, romantically involved with John South, a tabloid reporter, after the murder of JonBenet. Remember they told a pedophile neighbor that he was a suspect in the Ramsey case and ..... well, it doesn't matter, the guy was innocent. But Judith was in that up to her ears.

Later she was involved with Tom Miller -- lived with him and married him after her divorce became final.

She has made a lot of money off this case - as has Linda Pugh. And you know what? I don't care that she made money selling the photos -- I really don't. I DO mind that she supported the ramseys 100% in the first days and flipped for profit.

That's how I see it -- and I see no reason to hide the story at this point. She is just what she is -- and I wouldn't want her as a friend.

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