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BrotherMoon

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Apr 13, 2010
 
What evidence of staging is there?
Henri McPhee

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FBI Assessment. "The FBI believed that JonBenet's vaginal trauma was not consistent with a history of sexual abuse, and they had turned up no evidence of any other type of abuse. The sexual violation of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators gratification. The penetration, which caused minor genital trauma, was more likely part of a staged crime scene intended to mislead the police." (PMPT pg 306)
BrotherMoon

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Apr 13, 2010
 

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Vaginal trauma does not equal sexual abuse.

This sentence;

"The sexual violation of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators gratification."

should read:

The vaginal damage of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators sexual gratification.

And that is correct.

This sentence;

"The penetration, which caused minor genital trauma, was more likely part of a staged crime scene intended to mislead the police."

assumes motive and assumes police to be a factor in that motive.

The described minor level of damage assumes the perp would believe the police would make a desired conclusion from slight evidence. Actual staging would more likely be overt.

The vaginal damage is so slight that previous violation could not be determined absolutely. An aaumption of staging for police by such slight damage is too big a leap of imagination.

Stronger evidence of staging is needed to be able to determine the perp's motive for staging for police.
LillyAndGish

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Apr 13, 2010
 
BrotherMoon, since you are PDI, why do you think JR wanted to leave for Atlanta that afternoon/evening?(And please remember, your theory now occupies top spot on my list even though I still have many questions, and this is one.:) I know it's tragic, not funny. I don't mean these :) to indicate it's funny. It's not. I just mean I'm not trying to be contentious.)
LillyAndGish

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Apr 13, 2010
 
Sorry, you are PDII.
BrotherMoon

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Apr 13, 2010
 
I don't know why he chose Atlanta. Did Patsy's parents live there then? The fact he thought he could do any such thing says to me he either thought he was above the law or he was thinking emotionally or he just had an instinct to run or maybe he just wanted to "go back". Didn't they come from Atlanta to Boulder?
LillyAndGish

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Apr 13, 2010
 
BrotherMoon wrote:
I don't know why he chose Atlanta. Did Patsy's parents live there then? The fact he thought he could do any such thing says to me he either thought he was above the law or he was thinking emotionally or he just had an instinct to run or maybe he just wanted to "go back". Didn't they come from Atlanta to Boulder?
Yes, and Patsy's family was in Atlanta. I wondered why you thought JR assumed he could "just leave" that afternoon? You don't think even he cared to wait on his youngest daughter's body? Assuming your theory is the correct one, do you think he wanted to get PR away from Boulder?

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

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Apr 13, 2010
 
LillyAndGish wrote:
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Yes, and Patsy's family was in Atlanta. I wondered why you thought JR assumed he could "just leave" that afternoon? You don't think even he cared to wait on his youngest daughter's body? Assuming your theory is the correct one, do you think he wanted to get PR away from Boulder?
I think John was emotionally distanced from both Patsy and JonBenet for some time. I think he not only wanted to get Patsy away from Boulder but get her away from himself without drawing attention to his complicity in obstruction. He could do that in Atlanta, maybe.
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BrotherMoon wrote:
Vaginal trauma does not equal sexual abuse.
This sentence;
"The sexual violation of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators gratification."
should read:
The vaginal damage of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators sexual gratification.
And that is correct.
This sentence;
"The penetration, which caused minor genital trauma, was more likely part of a staged crime scene intended to mislead the police."
assumes motive and assumes police to be a factor in that motive.
The described minor level of damage assumes the perp would believe the police would make a desired conclusion from slight evidence. Actual staging would more likely be overt.
The vaginal damage is so slight that previous violation could not be determined absolutely. An aaumption of staging for police by such slight damage is too big a leap of imagination.
Stronger evidence of staging is needed to be able to determine the perp's motive for staging for police.
If the slight vaginal trauma was not for sexual gratification or staging, what was the motive?
CommonSense

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BrotherMoon wrote:
Vaginal trauma does not equal sexual abuse.
This sentence;
"The sexual violation of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators gratification."
should read:
The vaginal damage of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators sexual gratification.
And that is correct.
This sentence;
"The penetration, which caused minor genital trauma, was more likely part of a staged crime scene intended to mislead the police."
assumes motive and assumes police to be a factor in that motive.
The described minor level of damage assumes the perp would believe the police would make a desired conclusion from slight evidence. Actual staging would more likely be overt.
The vaginal damage is so slight that previous violation could not be determined absolutely. An aaumption of staging for police by such slight damage is too big a leap of imagination.
Stronger evidence of staging is needed to be able to determine the perp's motive for staging for police.
Could you be more retarded? I don't think so.

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

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learnin wrote:
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If the slight vaginal trauma was not for sexual gratification or staging, what was the motive?
Latent autoeroticism by proxy.

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

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Apr 13, 2010
 
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Could you be more retarded? I don't think so.
Could you be more vulnerable? I don't think so.
CommonSense

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BrotherMoon wrote:
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Could you be more vulnerable? I don't think so.
Look, retardo, it's extremely simple. It's late. Patsy goes to JonBenet's room to have her use the bathroom. JonBenet is not in her room.

Patsy finds Jonbenet downstairs, in the living room where all of her toys are. She had just stopped by the kitchen not too long ago for a piece of pineapple.

"JonBenet, you're supposed to be in bed. It's late. We have to get up early in the morning. Now, I am very tired and I want to go to bed. Let's go."

"In a minute mommy."

"No, right now."

Eventually, Patsy simply grabs Jonbenet by the shirt collar, twists the collar around her fist, and starts directing JonBenet through the house to the back spiral staircase. The collar is tight enough to cut off the blood supply, but maybe not tight enough to cut off Jonbenet's ability to breathe.

The two reach the spiral staircase. Patsy directs JonBenet up the staircase. Patsy is behind Jonbenet, that's wide the ligature marks read the way the do. Somewhere on the spiral staircase Jonbenet grabs the Christmas decoration and begins to pull it off of the staircase. Patsy eventually pulls her hand out of Jonbenet's shirt collar, Jonbenet tumbles down the stircase, gets wrapped up in the Christmas decoration, hits her head at the base of the staircase, cracks her skull open and dies soon afterwards.

No question left unanswered!

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

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Apr 14, 2010
 
Then what is the evidence of staging?
CommonSense

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BrotherMoon wrote:
Then what is the evidence of staging?
If you are too stupid to figure it out yourself from what I have already told you, nothing more I tell you will allow you to understand. Go ehf yourself you ehfing retard.
LillyAndGish

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Apr 14, 2010
 
BrotherMoon wrote:
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I think John was emotionally distanced from both Patsy and JonBenet for some time. I think he not only wanted to get Patsy away from Boulder but get her away from himself without drawing attention to his complicity in obstruction. He could do that in Atlanta, maybe.
Thank you, BrotherMoon. Yes, he could have left PR in the care of her parents and sisters in Atlanta. In Boulder, it was camping out at their friends' home.
MOON JACK

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ladies and gentlemen,someone judged me and gave me a hamburger with spam on it thanks, LOL.moon jack. now if you think there was staging of the crime scene,where do you think the starting point was? i mean thats the way they do it in books and on stage ,is it not?? good luck moon jack!!
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MOON JACK wrote:
ladies and gentlemen,someone judged me and gave me a hamburger with spam on it thanks, LOL.moon jack. now if you think there was staging of the crime scene,where do you think the starting point was? i mean thats the way they do it in books and on stage ,is it not?? good luck moon jack!!
Another mindless retarded moron with access to the Internet. Well, thank God he's not driving, huh?

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

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There was no staging for police. What was done to JonBenet's body was done by Patsy for Patsy.
MOON JACK

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LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, I JUST GOT TWO MORE AWARDS FROM MY FRIENDS HERE,ONE IS I AGREE AND THE OTHER ONE WAS YOUR FUNNY,DOES IT MEAN THAT THEY AGREE I'M FUNNY?? lol NOW that i have my foot in the door let me draw your attn to something. or shall i say ask you this. have you concidered that when you play football you take a break at 1/2 time.how many trips were taken in moving the suitcase,pen,pad,body,S.B.T.C plaque,barbie gown,and in all these foward passes do you think they stoped at the 50 yd. line for a break.before they contiuned on with this operation? if so where would you estimate the 50 yard line was or is? just asking. moon jack, if some one would be so kind as to give me a nice reward next time i might give you a bonus ball, yours truly MOON JACK
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