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jameson

Asheville, NC

#1 May 22, 2009
"The Rams did NOT cooperate ! "
Posted by Sparrow on Sep-02-01 at 01:23 PM (EST)
Or did they? We've heard for a long time that the Ramseys refused to cooperate with police, canceled meetings, and "lawyered" up.
Let's examine the record and truth. Did the Ramseys want to help find the killer of their child and cooperate with authorites or not? You decide.
John & Patsy Ramsey called police after finding a ransom note and their youngest child missing from her bed. John expected that the FBI would be notified, airports would be monitored, road blocks set up, and a massive hunt begun for their daughter. She was later found dead in their basement.
When a lawyer friend called on the family to comfort them shortly after the murder, he saw their agony and knew where the police investigation was headed. He asked if John would trust him to make some decisions for him. John agreed.
This friend helped with arrangements, offered a shoulder to cry on, and contacted attorneys who represented the family of JonBenet.
Boulder police officers, including detectives, questioned John & Patsy throughout the day beginning about 6:00 am on Dec. 26, 1996. From that time police were with them 24 hrs a day until they left for the funeral in Atlanta at about 2:00 pm on Dec. 29th.
The Ramseys fully cooperated, told police everything they knew. They were accused of "throwing people under the bus" because they answered the detectives questions honestly.
Police interrogated Burke on December 26th and tape recorded the session. Neither parent was present. Again, with a police approved psychologist on January 8th. That session was video taped. Burke was again interviewed in May of 1998 for three days.
jameson

Asheville, NC

#2 May 22, 2009
John willingly gave handwriting samples on December 26, 28, and January 5th. Patsy gave handwriting samples on Dec. 28, January 4, February 28, April 12, and May 20. Burke also gave handwriting samples on Dec. 28.
After the funeral, the Ramseys appeared on CNN in Atlanta and asked a national audience for help in finding the killer. Patsy warned other mothers to "hold your babies" close, there is a murderer on the run...soon after the Mayor of Boulder announced there was no need to worry about intruders.
After the Ramseys returned from the funeral, their attorneys offered to make them available for a joint interview on January 18, 1997, at 10:00 am.
This offer was declined by police in writing and stated that such an interview would not "be helpful" because "the time frame for interviewing John and Patsy as witnesses who could provide critical information that would be helpful in the initial stages of the investigation has passed."
Very early in the investigation they agreed to give blood and hair samples, offered to allow searches of both homes, offered to release records, told police everything they knew, and offered to meet with BPD and answer any further questions put to them. In Feb. 1997 John & Patsy also gave pubic hair samples.
On Friday, April 11, 1997, John & Patsy met with the District Attorney. They were offered an apology for the way BPD had treated them and John accepted the apology. They agreed to move forward and NO conditions were placed on the manner in which the interview would be conducted.
On Saturday, April 12 John & Patsy also agreed to let police search their house again without a warrant, and agreed to several other requests, including making themselves available again for seperate interviews on Wednesday April 23, 1997. Again, they agreed to answer every question put to them.
On April 22, the day before the interrogation, the Boulder police department canceled the scheduled interviews.
John and Patsy then agreed to be interrogated by the district attorneys office for three full days beginning on April 30, 1997. Patsy was interviewed for six hours and John for two.
The Ramseys were also interrogated by the District Attorneys office for three full days each, in June of 1997.
They willingly signed over a hundred releases for information during the course of the investigation. Any and all things requested were given to police, including medical records, credit card records and video tape rentals.
John Andrew, Melinda and Burke Ramsey testified before the Grand Jury. Patsy and John offered to testify before the Grand Jury and were not subpoenaed.
The Ramseys asked to meet with the Governor of Colorado and his advisory council. The request went unaswered.
They met again for hours with BPD at the infamous Atlanta meetings.
They remain "under the umbrella of suspicion" of murdering their six year old child, and accused of not cooperating, lawyering up, and not searching for the killer of their daughter.
Patricia Fox

Hogansville, GA

#3 May 22, 2009
LOL. I give up. It is useless to try to explain somethings to some people. The Ramseys cooperated, sure, you bet. What the heck, just let them go on believing that.
Nelly

AOL

#4 May 22, 2009
Patricia Fox wrote:
LOL. I give up. It is useless to try to explain somethings to some people. The Ramseys cooperated, sure, you bet. What the heck, just let them go on believing that.
LOL PF! This psycho beotch is like the Tokyo Rose for the Ramsey's. Spin, lies, and misinformation free of charge! Next thing you know, she'll be demanding Topix pay her 50 bucks a poster while she hogs the board.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#5 May 23, 2009
Patsy killed JonBenet deliberateley.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#6 May 23, 2009
Nelly wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL PF! This psycho beotch is like the Tokyo Rose for the Ramsey's. Spin, lies, and misinformation free of charge! Next thing you know, she'll be demanding Topix pay her 50 bucks a poster while she HOGS the board.
Topix has the pig flu virus.
koldkase

Lawrenceville, GA

#7 May 23, 2009
For the millionth time, the Ramseys had NO CHOICE but to give handwriting, blood, and hair samples. NONE. Again, you are spreading DISINFORMATION, jams.

The only choice they had was to give them without forcing LE to get a warrant for the samples, or force LE to get the warrant, which BY LAW would have been done had the Ramseys refused. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS.

So they went in and gave the samples, and now the RST never stop citing that as proof the Ramseys "cooperated". BS!

The Ramseys HAD to call 911. What else were they going to do? Tell their friends and family that JonBenet was on vacation with the Pageant Angels? Permanently?

I was thinking the other day, while watching some news replays of parents with missing or murdered children, fathers tearful and distraught, that I have NEVER seen John Ramsey shed ONE TEAR for JonBenet while telling the world endlessly how innocent he is. NOT ONE TEAR. He can bearly speak about her. When asked about her by Larry King in the fall after Patsy died, John said, "She was a handful." That's all. Period.

The Ramseys are the ONLY parents of murdered children I have ever seen who went straight to "It's all the cops' fault." The Ramseys were more concerned with how LE was treating them than finding THE KILLER OF THEIR BABY.

The Ramseys acted from DAY ONE like they were so distraught they simply handed over every single element of their lives to lawyers, family, and friends. John Ramsey, CEO of Access Graphics, a Lockheed Martin company, was in truth unable to talk with LE because his lawyers told him not to? Right. In reality, John Ramsey has never even been upset on TV during one of their many publicity spin appearances, beginning the day after he buried JonBenet--except when he faced Steve Thomas, of course, because Thomas nailed the Ramseys over their obstruction of the investigation.

The Ramseys were so distraught, they couldn't be responsible enough to help LE find the person who entered their home and spent hours there, murdered their child under their noses, and was STILL AT LARGE, endangering their entire family. Except NOT. The Ramseys were more worried about the media and LE than any intruder. Did they ask for protection--from ANYONE? Lockheed Martin sure should have been all over this, considering the words in the ransom note. But LM didn't seem to even exist while a "foreign faction" was murdering its executives' family members. Strange, for one of the world's leading defense contractors.

Yet the Ramseys had NO PROBLEM with being quite aggressive when it came to knowing exactly what they had to cover up in interviews. Then they were ALL OVER the case evidence and distancing themselves from each and every incriminating detail. They could go from "I don't know" and "I don't remember" to "I read about it in the autopsy report" in a heartbeat, particularly when they slipped up, as Patsy did after she'd told Haney she SAW the heart on JonBenet's hand that morning.

John and Patsy Ramsey had separate lawyers WITHIN DAYS of the murder. They lawyered up everyone in their immediate family. Even JAR, who was allegedly in Atlanta at the time of the murder, and Lucinda, JAR's mother and John's ex-wife, had a lawyer present when talking to LE! LE had to barter with the Ramseys to get ANYTHING from them, once releasing a press statement that JAR and Melinda were cleared to trade with the Ramseys for "their cooperation."

(cont.)
koldkase

Lawrenceville, GA

#8 May 23, 2009
(cont. from above post #7)

Once the tone was set by the Ramseys--WHICH WAS IMMEDIATE--family and friends OF JONBENET refused to cooperate with LE in the simplest of ways, like talking freely with LE. How can LE find a CHILD KILLER when the very people with whom she lived and had routine contact REFUSE TO EVEN TALK TO THEM FACE TO FACE WITHOUT CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS? It took FOUR MONTHS for LE to get the Ramseys to an interview, and the Ramseys ONLY ALLOWED LE TWO HOURS EACH, as well as SET FORTH RESTRICTIONS ON QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ASKED--LIKE WOULD THEY TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST! To this day, THE RAMSEYS HAVE NEVER GONE TO THE BOULDER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR AN INTERVIEW in the murder of JonBenet. NEVER.(Not that Patsy didn't break her neck to get there to help her good buddy Pasta Jay when he was arrested for attacking people with a baseball bat on her behalf.)

Did I mention THEY WITHHELD CRITICAL EVIDENCE from the BPD FOR FIVE YEARS--THE ALLEGED SIZE 12-14 PACKAGE OF BLOOMIES--until Wood's threats to sue the BPD got the case handed over to then DA LACY, A TRUE RAMSEY SHILL FROM THE BEGINNING? Yeah, THAT'S cooperation! The kind they branded this case with, anyway.

This is just a small part of how the Ramseys disabled the BPD investigation into this murder. I don't think anyone who isn't on the Ramsey SHILL Team would ever expect the parents of a murdered child to BLOCK THE INVESTIGATION AT EVERY TURN. Not innocent parents, that is.

If you think an intruder did this, obviously I think you're wrong, but fine, we disagree. However, in light of your POV, it's unconscionable while defending the evasive actions of the Ramseys to leave out the obvious fact that if it was an intruder, he hasn't been caught because of the Ramseys' own REFUSAL TO COOPERATE WITH LE, including their determination to control the investigation through their powerful and influential lawyers, and therefore their outright obstruction of the investigation.

The plain truth is that Patsy wrote the note, which means she knew exactly what happened to JonBenet, and THAT'S WHY THE RAMSEYS OBSTRUCTED THE INVESTIGATION.
Capricorn

Brooklyn, NY

#9 May 23, 2009
As always KK, beautifully articulated and infuriatingly true
cyber

United States

#10 May 23, 2009
jameson wrote:
John willingly gave handwriting samples on December 26, 28, and January 5th. Patsy gave handwriting samples on Dec. 28, January 4, February 28, April 12, and May 20. Burke also gave handwriting samples on Dec. 28.
After the funeral, the Ramseys appeared on CNN in Atlanta and asked a national audience for help in finding the killer. Patsy warned other mothers to "hold your babies" close, there is a murderer on the run...soon after the Mayor of Boulder announced there was no need to worry about intruders.
After the Ramseys returned from the funeral, their attorneys offered to make them available for a joint interview on January 18, 1997, at 10:00 am.
This offer was declined by police in writing and stated that such an interview would not "be helpful" because "the time frame for interviewing John and Patsy as witnesses who could provide critical information that would be helpful in the initial stages of the investigation has passed."
Very early in the investigation they agreed to give blood and hair samples, offered to allow searches of both homes, offered to release records, told police everything they knew, and offered to meet with BPD and answer any further questions put to them. In Feb. 1997 John & Patsy also gave pubic hair samples.
On Friday, April 11, 1997, John & Patsy met with the District Attorney. They were offered an apology for the way BPD had treated them and John accepted the apology. They agreed to move forward and NO conditions were placed on the manner in which the interview would be conducted.
On Saturday, April 12 John & Patsy also agreed to let police search their house again without a warrant, and agreed to several other requests, including making themselves available again for seperate interviews on Wednesday April 23, 1997. Again, they agreed to answer every question put to them.
On April 22, the day before the interrogation, the Boulder police department canceled the scheduled interviews.
John and Patsy then agreed to be interrogated by the district attorneys office for three full days beginning on April 30, 1997. Patsy was interviewed for six hours and John for two.
The Ramseys were also interrogated by the District Attorneys office for three full days each, in June of 1997.
They willingly signed over a hundred releases for information during the course of the investigation. Any and all things requested were given to police, including medical records, credit card records and video tape rentals.
John Andrew, Melinda and Burke Ramsey testified before the Grand Jury. Patsy and John offered to testify before the Grand Jury and were not subpoenaed.
The Ramseys asked to meet with the Governor of Colorado and his advisory council. The request went unaswered.
They met again for hours with BPD at the infamous Atlanta meetings.
They remain "under the umbrella of suspicion" of murdering their six year old child, and accused of not cooperating, lawyering up, and not searching for the killer of their daughter.
jameson, do you know what body language is? It's when physical behavior tells the truth. The Ramseys behaved like slippery snakes. They weren't open. They weren't outraged. They weren't demanding, angry, incensed that Boulder police were looking at them. They didn't hold press conferences to declare that they were being railroaded. They didn't act appropriately for innocent parents.
cyber

United States

#11 May 23, 2009
koldkase wrote:
(cont. from above post #7)
Once the tone was set by the Ramseys--WHICH WAS IMMEDIATE--family and friends OF JONBENET refused to cooperate with LE in the simplest of ways, like talking freely with LE. How can LE find a CHILD KILLER when the very people with whom she lived and had routine contact REFUSE TO EVEN TALK TO THEM FACE TO FACE WITHOUT CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS? It took FOUR MONTHS for LE to get the Ramseys to an interview, and the Ramseys ONLY ALLOWED LE TWO HOURS EACH, as well as SET FORTH RESTRICTIONS ON QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ASKED--LIKE WOULD THEY TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST! To this day, THE RAMSEYS HAVE NEVER GONE TO THE BOULDER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR AN INTERVIEW in the murder of JonBenet. NEVER.(Not that Patsy didn't break her neck to get there to help her good buddy Pasta Jay when he was arrested for attacking people with a baseball bat on her behalf.)
Did I mention THEY WITHHELD CRITICAL EVIDENCE from the BPD FOR FIVE YEARS--THE ALLEGED SIZE 12-14 PACKAGE OF BLOOMIES--until Wood's threats to sue the BPD got the case handed over to then DA LACY, A TRUE RAMSEY SHILL FROM THE BEGINNING? Yeah, THAT'S cooperation! The kind they branded this case with, anyway.
This is just a small part of how the Ramseys disabled the BPD investigation into this murder. I don't think anyone who isn't on the Ramsey SHILL Team would ever expect the parents of a murdered child to BLOCK THE INVESTIGATION AT EVERY TURN. Not innocent parents, that is.
If you think an intruder did this, obviously I think you're wrong, but fine, we disagree. However, in light of your POV, it's unconscionable while defending the evasive actions of the Ramseys to leave out the obvious fact that if it was an intruder, he hasn't been caught because of the Ramseys' own REFUSAL TO COOPERATE WITH LE, including their determination to control the investigation through their powerful and influential lawyers, and therefore their outright obstruction of the investigation.
The plain truth is that Patsy wrote the note, which means she knew exactly what happened to JonBenet, and THAT'S WHY THE RAMSEYS OBSTRUCTED THE INVESTIGATION.
Thank you for this long and detailed post. I believe that anyone who pretends not to understand what you're saying here has a personal agenda - some way to make money by supporting the R's, some personal need to defend them or some other irrational reason.
learnin

Spring Hill, KS

#12 May 23, 2009
koldkase wrote:
(cont. from above post #7)
Once the tone was set by the Ramseys--WHICH WAS IMMEDIATE--family and friends OF JONBENET refused to cooperate with LE in the simplest of ways, like talking freely with LE. How can LE find a CHILD KILLER when the very people with whom she lived and had routine contact REFUSE TO EVEN TALK TO THEM FACE TO FACE WITHOUT CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS? It took FOUR MONTHS for LE to get the Ramseys to an interview, and the Ramseys ONLY ALLOWED LE TWO HOURS EACH, as well as SET FORTH RESTRICTIONS ON QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ASKED--LIKE WOULD THEY TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST! To this day, THE RAMSEYS HAVE NEVER GONE TO THE BOULDER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR AN INTERVIEW in the murder of JonBenet. NEVER.(Not that Patsy didn't break her neck to get there to help her good buddy Pasta Jay when he was arrested for attacking people with a baseball bat on her behalf.)
Did I mention THEY WITHHELD CRITICAL EVIDENCE from the BPD FOR FIVE YEARS--THE ALLEGED SIZE 12-14 PACKAGE OF BLOOMIES--until Wood's threats to sue the BPD got the case handed over to then DA LACY, A TRUE RAMSEY SHILL FROM THE BEGINNING? Yeah, THAT'S cooperation! The kind they branded this case with, anyway.
This is just a small part of how the Ramseys disabled the BPD investigation into this murder. I don't think anyone who isn't on the Ramsey SHILL Team would ever expect the parents of a murdered child to BLOCK THE INVESTIGATION AT EVERY TURN. Not innocent parents, that is.
If you think an intruder did this, obviously I think you're wrong, but fine, we disagree. However, in light of your POV, it's unconscionable while defending the evasive actions of the Ramseys to leave out the obvious fact that if it was an intruder, he hasn't been caught because of the Ramseys' own REFUSAL TO COOPERATE WITH LE, including their determination to control the investigation through their powerful and influential lawyers, and therefore their outright obstruction of the investigation.
The plain truth is that Patsy wrote the note, which means she knew exactly what happened to JonBenet, and THAT'S WHY THE RAMSEYS OBSTRUCTED THE INVESTIGATION.
Yes, KoldKase, their behavior is totally inexcusable. I've said from the time I began reading about this sad event that, if they didn't do it, they know who did or at least one of them know. And I maintain, that if they are completely innocent, they are guilty of hindering the investigation whether intentionally or unintentionally.
learnin

Spring Hill, KS

#13 May 23, 2009
cyber wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for this long and detailed post. I believe that anyone who pretends not to understand what you're saying here has a personal agenda - some way to make money by supporting the R's, some personal need to defend them or some other irrational reason.
I agree, Cyber. It is absolutely inexcusable to defend such behavior. If I were a parent of a murdered baby girl, I'd rather rot in jail, wrongly convicted by LE, than to avoid, frustrate, lawyer up everyone, delay and make demands before being interviewed by LE.
Listen to what I say. I'd rot in jail before I would avoid, delay, place restrictions on LE who are investigating the murder of my baby girl.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#14 May 23, 2009
learnin wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, Cyber. It is absolutely inexcusable to defend such behavior. If I were a parent of a murdered baby girl, I'd rather rot in jail, wrongly convicted by LE, than to avoid, frustrate, lawyer up everyone, delay and make demands before being interviewed by LE.
Listen to what I say. I'd rot in jail before I would avoid, delay, place restrictions on LE who are investigating the murder of my baby girl.
What a bunch of fanatical hate filled RDI posters.

We all know you are RDI because you don't believe a thing that explains the Ramseys innocents.

Take KK's little speech. It is the ANTI-POST of Jameson. What ever she claimed KK claims the exact opposite. What is cooperation, KK claims is only because they had no choice, and yet they did choose to.

The Ramseys cooperated with most everything except putting a hangman's noose around their necks, which you RDI keep hoping to do to them.
Anti-K

Fort Saint John, Canada

#15 May 23, 2009
koldkase wrote:
For the millionth time, the Ramseys had NO CHOICE but to give handwriting, blood, and hair samples. NONE. Again, you are spreading DISINFORMATION, jams.
The only choice they had was to give them without forcing LE to get a warrant for the samples, or force LE to get the warrant, which BY LAW would have been done had the Ramseys refused. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS.
So they went in and gave the samples, and now the RST never stop citing that as proof the Ramseys "cooperated". BS!
The Ramseys HAD to call 911. What else were they going to do? Tell their friends and family that JonBenet was on vacation with the Pageant Angels? Permanently?
I was thinking the other day, while watching some news replays of parents with missing or murdered children, fathers tearful and distraught, that I have NEVER seen John Ramsey shed ONE TEAR for JonBenet while telling the world endlessly how innocent he is. NOT ONE TEAR. He can bearly speak about her. When asked about her by Larry King in the fall after Patsy died, John said, "She was a handful." That's all. Period.
The Ramseys are the ONLY parents of murdered children I have ever seen who went straight to "It's all the cops' fault." The Ramseys were more concerned with how LE was treating them than finding THE KILLER OF THEIR BABY.
The Ramseys acted from DAY ONE like they were so distraught they simply handed over every single element of their lives to lawyers, family, and friends. John Ramsey, CEO of Access Graphics, a Lockheed Martin company, was in truth unable to talk with LE because his lawyers told him not to? Right. In reality, John Ramsey has never even been upset on TV during one of their many publicity spin appearances, beginning the day after he buried JonBenet--except when he faced Steve Thomas, of course, because Thomas nailed the Ramseys over their obstruction of the investigation.
The Ramseys were so distraught, they couldn't be responsible enough to help LE find the person who entered their home and spent hours there, murdered their child under their noses, and was STILL AT LARGE, endangering their entire family. Except NOT. The Ramseys were more worried about the media and LE than any intruder. Did they ask for protection--from ANYONE? Lockheed Martin sure should have been all over this, considering the words in the ransom note. But LM didn't seem to even exist while a "foreign faction" was murdering its executives' family members. Strange, for one of the world's leading defense contractors.
Yet the Ramseys had NO PROBLEM with being quite aggressive when it came to knowing exactly what they had to cover up in interviews. Then they were ALL OVER the case evidence and distancing themselves from each and every incriminating detail. They could go from "I don't know" and "I don't remember" to "I read about it in the autopsy report" in a heartbeat, particularly when they slipped up, as Patsy did after she'd told Haney she SAW the heart on JonBenet's hand that morning.
John and Patsy Ramsey had separate lawyers WITHIN DAYS of the murder. They lawyered up everyone in their immediate family. Even JAR, who was allegedly in Atlanta at the time of the murder, and Lucinda, JAR's mother and John's ex-wife, had a lawyer present when talking to LE! LE had to barter with the Ramseys to get ANYTHING from them, once releasing a press statement that JAR and Melinda were cleared to trade with the Ramseys for "their cooperation."
(cont.)
Sounds like one side of a distorted story. No surprise.
AK
Anti-K

Fort Saint John, Canada

#16 May 23, 2009
koldkase wrote:
<snip>
The plain truth is that Patsy wrote the note, which means she knew exactly what happened to JonBenet, and THAT'S WHY THE RAMSEYS OBSTRUCTED THE INVESTIGATION.
LOL.
The plain truth is that none of the Document Examiners – NONE – who had access to, and used, necessary and original exemplars identified Mrs Ramsey as the author. The consensus was that she fell into the same category that almost everyone (according to the Thomas depo) fell into – could not be excluded IN OTHER WORDS – could not be included. Like it or not, the scale is real and Mrs Ramsey by all informed accounts was very low on that scale.

Lots of people identified as the author by lots of experts, but, none of those qualified and informed were able to identify anyone. So, KKK, how is that you are able to do it? What resources, exemplars, documents, methodology and experience did you use? Just how is it that you are able to do what these people could not?

Ps I Love Your Rants.

AK
Anti-K

Fort Saint John, Canada

#17 May 23, 2009
cyber wrote:
<quoted text>jameson, do you know what body language is? It's when physical behavior tells the truth. The Ramseys behaved like slippery snakes. They weren't open. They weren't outraged. They weren't demanding, angry, incensed that Boulder police were looking at them. They didn't hold press conferences to declare that they were being railroaded. They didn't act appropriately for innocent parents.
“Do you know what body language is?” LOL. Do you know what evidence is? No? Didn’t think so.

AK
Anti-K

Fort Saint John, Canada

#18 May 23, 2009
cyber wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for this long and detailed post. I believe that anyone who pretends not to understand what you're saying here has a personal agenda - some way to make money by supporting the R's, some personal need to defend them or some other irrational reason.
..and, I believe that anyone who pretends to understand what KK was saying here has a personal agenda - some way to make money by accusing the R's, some personal need to attack them or some other irrational reason.

AK
Anti-K

Fort Saint John, Canada

#19 May 24, 2009
learnin wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, KoldKase, their behavior is totally inexcusable. I've said from the time I began reading about this sad event that, if they didn't do it, they know who did or at least one of them know. And I maintain, that if they are completely innocent, they are guilty of hindering the investigation whether intentionally or unintentionally.
So, you offer up the possibility that they are completely innocent and unintentionally hindered the investigation. Cool, about time you started thinking rationally and reasonable and stopped speaking from your gut. So, here’s a question – let’s say that this possibility is the reality - they are completely innocent, they don’t know who or why or what-for (pretend if you must); what good are they? I mean, if they are completely innocent and if they don’t know who or why or what-for, than what, beyond what has occurred to date, can/could they possibly do or say to help solve the case?

AK
jahazafat

Holland, MI

#20 May 24, 2009
jameson wrote:
“Police interrogated Burke on December 26th and tape recorded the session. Neither parent was present.
The Ramseys had the interrogation of Burke from the 26th expunged from the record. It was challenged because when Burke was questioned his parents were not present.
jameson wrote:
"Boulder police officers, including detectives, questioned John & Patsy throughout the day beginning about 6:00 am on Dec. 26, 1996. From that time police were with them 24 hrs a day until they left for the funeral in Atlanta at about 2:00 pm on Dec. 29th.
That is incorrect and negates everything you say. John Ramsey himself admits he was alone walking the foothills on 12/28. This is the approximate time an order was dropped in the US mail for a doll duplicate to an American Girl doll the Ramseys had Pam Paugh remove from the crime scene. This order was received in Wisconsin on December 31st 1996 and UPSed to John Ramsey’s office the first week in January 1997. Why do you suppose he didn’t run to the media or the police or DA with the new doll and the one they removed from the crime scene?

The ability for police to interview suspects separately is key in any criminal investigation. It is basic police science. Because the Ramseys evaded this form of inquiry they both become culpable for what transpired in their home. They knew exactly what happened to JonBenet or wouldn’t have made a laundry list of items for Pam Paugh to remove from the crime scene. That’s as ridiculous as if John Wayne Gacy’s sister had been allow to remove frozen meat from his freezer. The ability to make a list also shows they were in a cognizant state of mind.

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