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BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#23 Jul 25, 2013
Stupid Eller wrote:
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The more I look at the facts of this case, the more I am convinced that Hunter was actively involved in making sure his business partners clients would never be brought to justice for what they did to JonBenet.
Post the facts that show Hunter's thoughts as you assert.
Post the facts that show JonBenet ate crab at the White's and it was digested as you assert.

Your wanderings into mediumistic channeling do not substitute for facts.

Since: Feb 12

Waipahu, HI

#24 Jul 25, 2013
Steve Eller wrote:
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Plea bargaining is extensive. Even if Alex Hunter had miraculously acquired the talents and skills of an enormously successful and competent prosecutor it would not have mattered in this case. The more I look at the facts of this case, the more I am convinced that Hunter was actively involved in making sure his business partners clients would never be brought to justice for what they did to JonBenet.
Hi SE,
I don't think Hunter was "on the take". I think he was just afraid to prosecute going up against a wealthy subject, although it is a possibility, being that most cities have a lot of corruption.
BAK
Steve Eller

United States

#25 Jul 25, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
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Post the facts that show Hunter's thoughts as you assert.
Post the facts that show JonBenet ate crab at the White's and it was digested as you assert.
Your wanderings into mediumistic channeling do not substitute for facts.
You are such a dork it does not matter what you write. Go back to your imaginary friends, your imaginary bar, and your overall gormless worthlessness. You've been discredited so thoroughly time and time again, that analysts advising heavy buys on Detroit's municipal debt would be taken more seriously.
Steve Eller

United States

#26 Jul 25, 2013
Bakatari wrote:
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Hi SE,
I don't think Hunter was "on the take". I think he was just afraid to prosecute going up against a wealthy subject, although it is a possibility, being that most cities have a lot of corruption.
BAK
I'm not sure how we can (or if we need) to define "on the take" in this case. Hunter had significant real estate investments with Haddon who had enormous political clout with the Governor and the rest of establishment in Colorado. I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter was consulted in the early hours of the alleged "kidnapping". He bent over backwards accomodating the Ramseys from the beginning. I don't think he realized the scope and magnitude that this case would take on and it overwhelmed him. If he was serious about finding justice he had a skilled team of prosecutors available and would have had no trouble recruiting others. In dealing with the Grand Jury I think he underestimated the effectivemess of Michael Kane.

Since: Feb 12

Waipahu, HI

#27 Jul 25, 2013
Steve Eller wrote:
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I'm not sure how we can (or if we need) to define "on the take" in this case. Hunter had significant real estate investments with Haddon who had enormous political clout with the Governor and the rest of establishment in Colorado. I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter was consulted in the early hours of the alleged "kidnapping". He bent over backwards accomodating the Ramseys from the beginning. I don't think he realized the scope and magnitude that this case would take on and it overwhelmed him. If he was serious about finding justice he had a skilled team of prosecutors available and would have had no trouble recruiting others. In dealing with the Grand Jury I think he underestimated the effectivemess of Michael Kane.
I think Hunter was basically a lazy government worker, who was on a "permanent coffee break". He didn't do much while in office, and did not "work" when this case came up.

And BTW SE. don't pay any attention to spammers. They thrive on being recognized even if look as stupid as they really are.
BAK
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#28 Jul 25, 2013
Stupid Eller wrote:
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I'm not sure how we can (or if we need) to define "on the take" in this case. Hunter had significant real estate investments with Haddon who had enormous political clout with the Governor and the rest of establishment in Colorado. I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter was consulted in the early hours of the alleged "kidnapping". He bent over backwards accomodating the Ramseys from the beginning. I don't think he realized the scope and magnitude that this case would take on and it overwhelmed him. If he was serious about finding justice he had a skilled team of prosecutors available and would have had no trouble recruiting others. In dealing with the Grand Jury I think he underestimated the effectivemess of Michael Kane.
Channeling again.

Post the evidence JonBenet ate crab at the White's and it was digested as you have asserted.

Post any evidence you have that explains Hunter's thoughts and actions as you claim to understand.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#29 Jul 25, 2013
Hunter said that he never met Haddon in his life. He had other reasons to fear him, the same fear your junior high school basketball team would feel if the LA Lakers showed up to oppose them. Totally out of their league. Knowing you are going to be blown out, unless you are given a can't lose case.

Sadly, I see very little actual difference between Hunter, Lacy and now Garnett. They all act like they wish they were defense attorneys, that they admire defense attorneys, their "issues" are more in line with what a defense attorney would be interested in. None of them want a difficult circumstantial case. They want an easy case they can't lose. As I mentioned previously last year about Garnett, I thought he would be doing something with pot, and he was recently appointed to some committee having to do with it. And he's personally trying the only case they care about in Boulder, that case of the cops shooting an elk.

I STRONGLY believe in the two times Boulder EVER moved, one, to convene the Ramsey grand jury and two, to convene the Midyette grand jury, they were PUSHED by State officials to ACT. One, Governor Romer DID push back on Hunter after ST's resignation letter, in which ST wanted a special prosecutor, Romer went with a grand jury focused on the Ramseys. Hunter would have hemmed and hawed forever. So would have Lacy. Caplis and Silverman had us write the State Attorney General's office about the INACTION in the Midyette case. They wrote me back about 48 hours before the news became public that a grand jury had been convened. I'm SURE they brought pressure to bear in that case. That or someone doing the work for them from the outside, or a supernatural breakthrough is the only way I see Justice in this case.
Steve Eller

United States

#30 Jul 26, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
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Channeling again.
Post the evidence JonBenet ate crab at the White's and it was digested as you have asserted.
Post any evidence you have that explains Hunter's thoughts and actions as you claim to understand.
I have addressed these issues countless times, sorry but I'm not taking the bait Brother Bufoon.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#31 Jul 26, 2013
Stupid Eller wrote:
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I have addressed these issues countless times, sorry but I'm not taking the bait Brother Bufoon.
No you have not coward.
Steve Eller

United States

#33 Jul 26, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
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No you have not coward.
Oh wow. All of a sudden you got serious. Just proves my point. Have fun in your imaginary world.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#34 Jul 26, 2013
This has always been a huge problem in this case, then and now:

On a "20/20'' segment devoted to the Ramsey investigation, noted former Los Angeles County DA Vincent Bugliosi who became famous for prosecuting killer Charles Manson said the Ramsey case needs a tough, aggressive prosecutor, not Alex Hunter.

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/jon1226.htm
Just Wondering

Oak Hill, WV

#37 Feb 8, 2015
christie wrote:
what is the difference between Alex Hunter and the person who murdered JB.
One did it and one covered it up.
Case solved.
After learning of the two indictments against the Ramseys, why was he not concerned for Burke's safety?

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#38 Feb 9, 2015
Just Wondering wrote:
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After learning of the two indictments against the Ramseys, why was he not concerned for Burke's safety?
I think because the higher official of Boulder knew the truth. Remember when Patsy was on TV telling everyone to 'hold their babies close - there is a killer out there'? The Mayor at the time, Leslie Durgan, held her own press conference, and had this to say:

"Patsy answered in a tearful voice: "There is a killer on the loose, I don't know who it is, I don't know if it's a he or a she but if I were a resident of Boulder I would tell my friends to keep their babies close to you."

Rather than explain their point of view, the broadcast only served to bolster the theory that the Ramseys were pretending and would rather talk on television than talk to the police.

The next day, Mayor Leslie Durgan gave a press conference to reject Patsy's claim, stating: "People in Boulder have no need to fear that there is someone wandering the streets of Boulder, as has been portrayed by some people, looking for young children to attack. Boulder is safe, it's always been a safe community and it continues to be a safe community."

The Ramseys were outraged. They simply couldn't understand why someone such as Mayor Durgan would say such things publicly when it was obvious to them that JonBenet's killer was still out there. Sadly, they were yet to realize that Durgan's comments were indicative of the opinions of the police and a large percentage of the general public who believed that John and Patsy were solely responsible for the death of their daughter.

During a 1997 interview, Durgan explained her reasons for making the announcement: "It was done in large part to allay the fears of children in our community and to let people know that the information that I had at that time was that we did not have some crazed person wandering the streets of University Hill."

When asked by the interviewer where she had gotten her information from, she replied, "The police chief." "

From the article by Marilyn Bardsley and Patrick Bellamy.

Since: May 11

AOL

#39 Feb 9, 2015
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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I think because the higher official of Boulder knew the truth. Remember when Patsy was on TV telling everyone to 'hold their babies close - there is a killer out there'? The Mayor at the time, Leslie Durgan, held her own press conference, and had this to say:
"Patsy answered in a tearful voice: "There is a killer on the loose, I don't know who it is, I don't know if it's a he or a she but if I were a resident of Boulder I would tell my friends to keep their babies close to you."
Rather than explain their point of view, the broadcast only served to bolster the theory that the Ramseys were pretending and would rather talk on television than talk to the police.
The next day, Mayor Leslie Durgan gave a press conference to reject Patsy's claim, stating: "People in Boulder have no need to fear that there is someone wandering the streets of Boulder, as has been portrayed by some people, looking for young children to attack. Boulder is safe, it's always been a safe community and it continues to be a safe community."
The Ramseys were outraged. They simply couldn't understand why someone such as Mayor Durgan would say such things publicly when it was obvious to them that JonBenet's killer was still out there. Sadly, they were yet to realize that Durgan's comments were indicative of the opinions of the police and a large percentage of the general public who believed that John and Patsy were solely responsible for the death of their daughter.
During a 1997 interview, Durgan explained her reasons for making the announcement: "It was done in large part to allay the fears of children in our community and to let people know that the information that I had at that time was that we did not have some crazed person wandering the streets of University Hill."
When asked by the interviewer where she had gotten her information from, she replied, "The police chief." "
From the article by Marilyn Bardsley and Patrick Bellamy.
funny how they were so outraged but didn't sue..considering how much they sued over the lesser outrages they 'suffered'. LOL They had a big case against Boulder that could bankroll three Purdue degrees for Burke and for some reason (gee, what could that be?) they didn't so much as threaten the mayor or the city. Hmm, where were JR's balls then? And what about good old Hal Haddon? Didn't he believe in his client enough to take Boulder down for the outrageous statement?
Rangerette

Round Rock, TX

#40 Feb 9, 2015
The mayor was right to make that statement since it was massively obvious to any law enforcement official and seriously parents everywhere, that Patsy and John were lying. They themselves wrote the note, staged the crime after the fact---and indeed the crime occurred inside their home...someplace.

Whether JB was hit by Burke or shoved by Patsy or fell down the stairs incurring a head injury, it doesn't matter. someone did it and it required a cover-up to Protect That Person.

In My Opinion...
I have always thought that Alex Hunter was buddies with the lawyers for the Ramseys.
Most attorneys in a town know each other and respect each other.
And if Patsy and John did confide to their attorney what happened, especially if they said Burke did it, it was an accident, patsy panicked and staged the crime scene, wrote the note, etc...if they told this to their attorney and he in turn told AH---Alex Hunter would not want to bring a child to court and have him testify to what he did.

A child that age would either be disturbed BEFORE the accident or disturbed afterwards. In any case, there is a REASON hunter quashed the indictment.
Figure that out and you have solved the murder.
Steve Eller

Brooklyn, NY

#41 Feb 9, 2015
Rangerette wrote:
The mayor was right to make that statement since it was massively obvious to any law enforcement official and seriously parents everywhere, that Patsy and John were lying. They themselves wrote the note, staged the crime after the fact---and indeed the crime occurred inside their home...someplace.
Whether JB was hit by Burke or shoved by Patsy or fell down the stairs incurring a head injury, it doesn't matter. someone did it and it required a cover-up to Protect That Person.
In My Opinion...
I have always thought that Alex Hunter was buddies with the lawyers for the Ramseys.
Most attorneys in a town know each other and respect each other.
And if Patsy and John did confide to their attorney what happened, especially if they said Burke did it, it was an accident, patsy panicked and staged the crime scene, wrote the note, etc...if they told this to their attorney and he in turn told AH---Alex Hunter would not want to bring a child to court and have him testify to what he did.
A child that age would either be disturbed BEFORE the accident or disturbed afterwards. In any case, there is a REASON hunter quashed the indictment.
Figure that out and you have solved the murder.
At best Hunter was a paranoid coward and at worst shamelessly corrupt.

Since: May 11

AOL

#42 Feb 10, 2015
Steve Eller wrote:
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At best Hunter was a paranoid coward and at worst shamelessly corrupt.
hunter shared real estate holdings with Haddon..guess that's reason enough to go along with the program. In the first weeks he hinted at his true belief that incest was the underlying factor because he brought Marilyn Vanderbur into the case to explain that ugly reality..then suddenly he had no clue what happened. If my business partner threatened my income (ranch), I might dance to his tune, too.

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