Burke's Police Interview at the White's
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#21 Aug 13, 2011
candy wrote:
This story of Burke's that radically differed from his parents account of JonBenet being asleep and carried up the stairs is one of the most IMPORTANT revelations in all of ST's book. IT IS A HUGE DISCREPENCY, and it's WHY you ALWAYS separate people before interviewing them.
ST. hardback: p.316 "JonBenet's brother, Burke Ramsey, was interviewed in Atlanta for two hours a day on consecutive days in EARLY JUNE"...
"Burke Ramsey seemed to have recovered his memory"...
P.317 "He said that his sister fell asleep in the care on the way home, but awakened to help carry presents into the house of a friend. When they got home, JONBENET WALKED IN SLOWLY AND WENT UP THE SPIRAL STAIRS TO BED, JUST AHEAD OF PATSY. That was QUITE A DIFFERENCE from the inital and frequently repeated story that she was carried to bed."
Candy, Burke is supposed to have made a remark about a secret "not being a secret any more if it's told", or something similar. I have only heard this remark taken out of context.

Can you perhaps provide the full context in which he made this remark? I'm interested in knowing what the subject matter had been when he made the comment.

Thanks.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#22 Aug 13, 2011
Burke's interview with the cops in June, 1997 certainly was never expunged. I don't know what interview you are talking about.
candy

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#23 Aug 13, 2011
I believe he said that in the context of one of his interviews, when asked if there were "secrets" in the house, etc.
candy

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#24 Aug 13, 2011
Old South, it came from Dr. Henry Lee's book:

"Police were also pursuing other major suspects. Burke Ramsey certainly fell into that category. On Wednesday morning, January 8, JonBenet's nine-year-old brother traveled to the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot, where child psychologist Dr. Suzanne Bernhard questioned him. Patsy Ramsey sat sobbing inthe next room. Boulder police detectives Linda Arndt, Jane Harmer, and Ron Gosage observed this interview from the next room, behind a one-way window. The two hour conversation that the police observed proved very inconclusive. During breaks, the police suggested avenues to Dr. Bernhard that she should pursue. Burke did not ant to talk about the tragedy, an understandable mind-set. He seemed dazed, even indifferent. The child psychologist gingerly raised the subjects of sexual molestation and other forms of child abuse in the family, and Burke reacted as though there had never been any instances of this. He seemed to be telling the truth, according to both Dr. Bernhard and the detectives. Dr. Bernhard attempted to delve into any secrets that Burke might know, but the boy replied that a fact was no longer a secret if it was told to someone. Police later studied the videotaped interview, carefully arranged with the Ramseys' attorneys, and found no new information in any of it.

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#25 Aug 13, 2011
candy wrote:
Burke's interview with the cops in June, 1997 certainly was never expunged. I don't know what interview you are talking about.
I believe Pinker is referring to the interview done that day while he was at the White's house

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#26 Aug 13, 2011
candy wrote:
..... He seemed dazed, even indifferent.....
Too bad they didn't test his blood to see if there were any "chemicals" that may have been responsible for his "dazed" state.

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#27 Aug 13, 2011
like Benadryl...
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#28 Aug 13, 2011
candy wrote:
Old South, it came from Dr. Henry Lee's book:
"Police were also pursuing other major suspects. Burke Ramsey certainly fell into that category. On Wednesday morning, January 8, JonBenet's nine-year-old brother traveled to the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot, where child psychologist Dr. Suzanne Bernhard questioned him. Patsy Ramsey sat sobbing inthe next room. Boulder police detectives Linda Arndt, Jane Harmer, and Ron Gosage observed this interview from the next room, behind a one-way window. The two hour conversation that the police observed proved very inconclusive. During breaks, the police suggested avenues to Dr. Bernhard that she should pursue. Burke did not ant to talk about the tragedy, an understandable mind-set. He seemed dazed, even indifferent. The child psychologist gingerly raised the subjects of sexual molestation and other forms of child abuse in the family, and Burke reacted as though there had never been any instances of this. He seemed to be telling the truth, according to both Dr. Bernhard and the detectives. Dr. Bernhard attempted to delve into any secrets that Burke might know, but the boy replied that a fact was no longer a secret if it was told to someone. Police later studied the videotaped interview, carefully arranged with the Ramseys' attorneys, and found no new information in any of it.
Thanks, Candy. That's probably the ONE book I haven't read.
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#29 Aug 13, 2011
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Too bad they didn't test his blood to see if there were any "chemicals" that may have been responsible for his "dazed" state.
I can see this as a distinct possibility since, "On Wednesday morning, January 8, JonBenet's nine-year-old brother traveled to the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot, where child psychologist Dr. Suzanne Bernhard questioned him".

We're talking about some two weeks AFTER the murder. The Memorial Service was over. The funeral was over. The family had returned from Atlanta and I would imagine have settle down somewhat. So IMO there was no reason for Burke to have been "dazed, even indifferent" while being questioned.

Kids have a remarkable ability to bounce back from the shock of tragedies, but, come to think of it, this tragedy didn't seem to have had much of an effect on him even in the beginning, so why should it have been the cause of him being "dazed, even indifferent" now, some two weeks later?

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#30 Aug 13, 2011
I don't have the answer to that but can only wonder if he wasn't medicated early on as well. We'll never know

I would think that for the interview IF he was "medicated" it would be for extra insurance

I'm truly just wondering and only speculating

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#31 Aug 13, 2011
Burke's "differing account" of JonBenet being AWAKE when she came home is so HUGE, that I believe Thomas really hurt the case by putting it in his book, thus, letting the Scams know about it. Burke's account also, is the only one that makes sense because it explains THE PINEAPPLE that was CLEARLY eaten AFTER they got home. The Scams could never admit to the pineapple, because she couldn't have eaten it after they got home if she had been asleep, so they are stuck with the LUDICROUS suggestion that an intruder fed it to her. Even though a glass with a tea bag in it is also on the table.

The reason however that this case remains a mystery and not indicted are two things 1) No source for the DNA found on JonBenet's panties and longjohns and 2) No one can say with any certainty WHAT happened after JonBenet consumed a couple of chunks of pineapple that night, that led to her death.

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#32 Aug 13, 2011
candy wrote:
. The Scams could never admit to the pineapple, because she couldn't have eaten it after they got home if she had been asleep,.
Unless she was woken up by Patsy who in a state of dissociation repressed the memory of what she did.
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#33 Aug 13, 2011
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Not only that, it would have gone way further to show that the poor kid was confused and didn't know what he was talking about. INSTEAD, they expunged the record and it remains hidden to this day. Very suspicious. Also, since he was interviewed at the Whites, and FW may very well have been privy to what was said, it was also about that time that FW turned on the Ramseys so to speak and stopped "supporting" them. We also have no knowledge of what Burke may have said to Fleet, or anyone else at the White's house. That may very well be what opened FW's eyes to what may have happened and caused the confrontations with the Ramseys. It would have gone a long way in their Public Relations quest to open up the statements and clarify them to everyone. It shows there is nothing to hide and they may have even saved Burke from all the innuendo IF ALL WAS INNOCENT
Add to that the fact that everything sold to the NE by Jameson was sold MINUS all Burke information. Add to that the fact that Burke to this day refuses to speak to the police and all the "he has nothing to say", "nothing to add", "doesn't remember", yada yada and what do you have? LOTS TO HIDE. Burke could request as well as John that all the EXPUNGED information be made public if he doesn't want to come in, etc. Nope
Outstanding point about something that could have been disclosed by Burke at the White's house to the police and/or Priscilla, who most assuredly was there. In fact it could be the basis of what Priscilla tried to tell Patsy about some knowledge that she had before Patsy so rudely cut her off.

I knew when I first read that Patsy refused to hear what Priscilla had to say, that there is no way shape or form that only someone who already knew all the answers would do that. There is no other explanation for it.

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#34 Aug 13, 2011
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I knew when I first read that Patsy refused to hear what Priscilla had to say, that there is no way shape or form that only someone who already knew all the answers would do that. There is no other explanation for it.
Sorry, this paragraph makes little sense. That is what I get from changing words so often. Should have read...

I knew when I first read that Patsy refused to hear what Priscilla had to say, that only someone who already knew all the answers would do that. There is no other explanation for it.

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#35 Aug 14, 2011
Patrcia Fox wrote:
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Outstanding point about something that could have been disclosed by Burke at the White's house to the police and/or Priscilla, who most assuredly was there. In fact it could be the basis of what Priscilla tried to tell Patsy about some knowledge that she had before Patsy so rudely cut her off.
I knew when I first read that Patsy refused to hear what Priscilla had to say, that there is no way shape or form that only someone who already knew all the answers would do that. There is no other explanation for it.
Hi PF, good to see you. It also makes sense that whatever Priscilla or someone there "may" have overheard Burke tell the police, was told to Fleet which would not only explain Priscilla's desire to talk to Patsy, but Fleet's actions shortly after the murder with John.

Imagine, IF they knew something about the crime from Burke, how frustrating that would be, which also infers that it was a "cover up" by the parents. IF Burke said anything incriminating about Patsy or John, it would be unlikely that Priscilla or Fleet would want to confront THEM. It makes more sense, to me anyway, that they would want to discuss Burke.

That is why IMO, Patsy didn't want to hear what Priscilla had to say. If she had discussed any of that with Priscilla, then Patsy would have had to "report" it and Priscilla's conversation with her automatically becomes EVIDENCE because Priscilla could report it.

Legally, if the record was expunged when they spoke to Burke, Priscilla would not be allowed to discuss it, but her conversations with Patsy would be allowed regarding Burke; just not the details of what he relayed.

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#36 Aug 14, 2011
Wanted also to add that this could very well be one of the main reasons the record of Burke's conversation was expunged. It also prevents the Whites from repeating it

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#37 Aug 14, 2011
Patrcia Fox wrote:
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Outstanding point about something that could have been disclosed by Burke at the White's house to the police and/or Priscilla, who most assuredly was there. In fact it could be the basis of what Priscilla tried to tell Patsy about some knowledge that she had before Patsy so rudely cut her off.
I knew when I first read that Patsy refused to hear what Priscilla had to say, that there is no way shape or form that only someone who already knew all the answers would do that. There is no other explanation for it.
When I first read this about Pricilla, I was thinking she was at the Ramseys instead, but actually both scenarios are true. I believe the Whites were at the Ramseys until the body was found, even though FW made 1 or 2 trips out to take Burke and the Fernie kids to his house, and again to get the camera/photos of the party. But after everyone was asked to leave the Ramsey home, BR remained at the Whites until around 6PM that night when he was taken to the Fernies, so I would imagine both Whites were at home at least part of the time between 1-6 PM.
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#38 Aug 14, 2011
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Wanted also to add that this could very well be one of the main reasons the record of Burke's conversation was expunged. It also prevents the Whites from repeating it
Great point....
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#39 Aug 14, 2011
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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When I first read this about Pricilla, I was thinking she was at the Ramseys instead, but actually both scenarios are true. I believe the Whites were at the Ramseys until the body was found, even though FW made 1 or 2 trips out to take Burke and the Fernie kids to his house, and again to get the camera/photos of the party. But after everyone was asked to leave the Ramsey home, BR remained at the Whites until around 6PM that night when he was taken to the Fernies, so I would imagine both Whites were at home at least part of the time between 1-6 PM.
You are totally correct.
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#40 Aug 14, 2011
Capricorn wrote:
I don't have the answer to that but can only wonder if he wasn't medicated early on as well. We'll never know
I would think that for the interview IF he was "medicated" it would be for extra insurance
I'm truly just wondering and only speculating
People wonder why the pediatrician was the one to treat Patsy. Maybe he was there for Burke as well.

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