The Smiley Faced Killer

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1597 Sep 11, 2013
Interesting too that PROUT starred in 2010 SEVEN DEADLY SINS

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1598 Sep 11, 2013
tguy wrote:
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deadly sins?
1-21-12 Angel o Pack o fat man body found at Eating Point Beacon-Seven deadly sins-sloth gluttony

then there`s the mash characters klinger was the first thrown in lake Michigan with Beck WHO WAS THE FIRST MUSICIAN before SFACE started, then david reilly, Reilly in Puerto Rico at the RADAR, criS LIP CRUISE SHIP VICTIM, 3 PIERCES WITHIN 2 MONTHS

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1599 Sep 11, 2013
Interest in these cases is growing; a website,“Footprints at the River’s Edge,” documents the background of many of these deaths, without taking a position as to whether the young men are the victims of accidents or murder. At least one book on this subject is soon to be released.

Thus, with public awareness of this situation growing daily, it is just a matter of time before whomever is elected the next District Attorney of Manhattan will be asked to re-open the cold cases of Patrick McNeill, Lawrence Andrews, Peter Caragiulo, and Joshua Bender, and possibly also the cases of Samuel Todd and Cameron Jones

The Footprints blog was recently mentioned in an article by J.R. de Szigethy in American Mafia magazine.

Click here to read the full article, which includes some interesting connections de Szigethy has uncovered that may relate to some of the drownings listed on this blog

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1600 Sep 11, 2013
Other cold cases that also may be of interest to whomever is elected the next District Attorney of Manhattan include that of Samuel Todd, a 24-year-old Yale Divinity School student who vanished on New Year’s Eve, 1983, and 23-year-old Cameron Jones, who vanished on New Year’s Day, 1993. Both men were from stable, distinguished families and had no history of a troubled youth. In each case, the young men became disoriented after ingestion of moderate amounts of alcohol
Taylor

Eau Claire, WI

#1601 Sep 11, 2013
Thanks for that thought Detroit; I am glad to hear that the word is spreading and people are taking a second look at this.. Thank you.
Taylor

Eau Claire, WI

#1602 Sep 11, 2013
OMG, there it is... the symbol for salt - nacl
cactus grill - L CANtina. See it??

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1603 Sep 11, 2013
Taylor wrote:
Thanks for that thought Detroit; I am glad to hear that the word is spreading and people are taking a second look at this.. Thank you.
Helen Dagner who posts on OCCK thread has police relatives. She says FBI are aware these are not accidents and are investigating.
tguy

New York, NY

#1604 Sep 12, 2013
They always thought occk cases were related. this is a sfk threadname that may be misleading.

Much of LE is hostile to anything people relate to sfk.

Any way a confessed killer mentioned to someone ne of the victims names at the salt mine is Tina and that was a reason for killing Campbell. I just realized some things this morning.

Like Taylor mentions the symbol for salt is in the bar name-nacl-so is tina-and so is Cargill which owns salt mines. Crystal Arsendorf at central avenue and Albert Campbell at Cactus Grill Cantina.

I have to suspect Crystal is also one of the salt company victims and possibly the one you mentioned.

Tina is also in the address of the Rose festival building -Naito Parkway and in the word Fountain.

cactus GRILL CAn TINA-cargill and tina.
tguy

New York, NY

#1605 Sep 12, 2013
ONE OF THE VICTIMS NAMES -NOT NE OF .... This keyboard malfunctions and is very slow puter
Shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1606 Sep 12, 2013
Well folks tguy is dead. Took a bunch of pills today ,went to sleep and never woke up. He posts at my computer from time to time so I know about this thread. He was going to e mail Taylor and see if she could find out what brand watch Martin was wearing. I had no internet working at the time. He thought there may be a connection with the tick tock victim from Victor NY. He is not really sure either if Taylor is just someone keeping track of progress to report back to the killers. Oh by the way that statue of Adam Smith was erected well after martin was dead and is at the Royal Mile in Scotland. BTW another foot was found in Canada.

BRIGHTON, Ont.- Police are investigating the discovery of possible human remains -- maybe a foot -- that were found at about 2:15 p.m. Wednesday on Gull Island in Lake Ontario, near Brighton.

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1607 Sep 16, 2013
Lindsay Cutshall and Jason Allen
The Sonoma County Sheriff’s Department reported today that DNA was collected at the Sonoma Coast beach north of Jenner where an engaged couple was found shot in the head at close range in August 2004.
The sheriff’s department also released on its Web site photos of a beer bottle, journal writings, drawings of a devil-like face and a distinctive hat located near the crime scene.
Read The Full Press Release
The DNA might have been left by the person who killed 22-year-old Lindsay Cutshall and 26-year-old Jason Allen, two El Dorado County Christian youth camp counselors who traveled to San Francisco and the Sonoma Coast on the weekend of Aug. 14-15, according to the sheriff’s department.
Their bodies were found in separate sleeping bags at Fishhead Beach on Aug. 18. Cutshall, of Fresno, Ohio, and Allen, of Zeeland, Mich., were to be married in September 2004.
“Given the heinous nature of this crime and the difficulty the suspect would have in being able to completely isolate himself from suspicion, we feel that it is probable that someone knows more information that would lead us to the murderer of Jason Allen and Lindsay Cutshall. We would ask anyone with information or suspicions to please contact us so we can compare these suspicions with our evidence,” Sgt. Robert Giordano said.
“Please do not discount the relevance of your information. Your piece of information may have a significant impact on the investigation when viewed in the context of what we already know,” Giordano said.
Sheriff’s Lt. Dave Edmonds would not elaborate this afternoon on the discovery of the DNA evidence.
The sheriff’s department said the 40-ounce “Camo 40 High Gravity Lager” bottle with a red and green label was located on the beach near the victims. The beer is brewed in Lacrosse, Wis. but was sold in Sonoma County at the time of the slayings, Edmonds said.
Early in the investigation a Wisconsin man was considered a person of interest. He was located in Fort Bragg, questioned and was ruled out as a suspect.
The distinctive short-brimmed, black and white patterned hat that is partially covered with black and white fur was located near a turnout on state Highway 1 above Fishhead Beach, the sheriff’s department said.
The sheriff’s department said it wants to know how the hat and the beer bottle “came to be deposited at their locations.”
The journal writings were among many found in an informal journal left for beach visitors in a make shift driftwood structure near the victims. One writer refers to the structure as “The Driftwood Inn” and reads ”... alone again, outside of myself and placid as hell ...” The journal entry was made on Aug. 4, 2004 and signed “R” in distinctive cursive handwriting.
Other journal entries mention Spiderman, Santa Claus, leprechauns and the tooth fairy. Edmonds said the journal entries were made before and after the slayings.
There were two drawings in black of devil-like faces on driftwood that was located near the victims. After the couple’s bodies were discovered there was speculation the killings were done by a member of a cult or by someone who took issue with the victims’ Christianity.
“We can’t make a linear connection between the two (the theory and the devil-like faces) but that possibility has not gone unnoticed,” Edmonds said.
Edmonds said investigators questioned people with significant criminal histories who were in the beach area at the time of the slayings but none of them were necessarily considered suspects.
Also included on the Web site is a photo of a necklace similar to one that a witness in the case said was given to Cutshall days before the killings. The sheriff’s department said the necklace was never found.
Giordano said the sheriff’s department is still looking for the murder weapon – a .45 caliber Marlin semi-automatic or lever action rifle.
The sheriff’s department reports that the investigation has been far-reaching and non-stop for the past 18 months

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1608 Sep 17, 2013
PARIS-PERES-PEREZ-2 MALES ABDUCTED FROM HOME

AYVANI PEREZ

DOB: Mar 22, 1999
Missing: Sep 17, 2013
Height: 4'9" (145cm)
Eyes: Brown
Race: Hispanic
Age Now: 14
Sex: Female
Weight: 93lbs (42kg)
Hair: Black
Missing From:
ELLENWOOD
GA
United States
Ayvani was allegedly abducted from her home by two unknown males. She was last seen wearing blue and grey Star Wars pajama bottoms and a grey superhero shirt.


ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1609 Sep 17, 2013
Hmm -very strange...Other journal entries mention Spiderman, Santa Claus, leprechauns and the tooth fairy. Edmonds said the journal entries were made before and after the slayings.

Odd story. Goes to show there are some strange things going on.

I was thinking rumors would already be spreading around Des Moines that a local may get the part for Superman and Kevin Martin being a Superman fan would probably know. That local being Brandon Routh that was born in Des Moines. The Royal Mile is on Fourth Street. Notice the last 5 letters of Fourth.

Keith Noble in the Hocking River. Keith on Noble Street on Martin Luther King Day. Grozelle at the Royal Military Acadamy in Kingston. At least one was not mentioned. Kevin Martin found dead at Principal Park- Notice first 5 letters of Principal. Sounds just like Prince.

Brand could have repeated as in the brand of watch Martin was wearing.

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1610 Sep 17, 2013
shawn wrote:
Hmm -very strange...Other journal entries mention Spiderman, Santa Claus, leprechauns and the tooth fairy. Edmonds said the journal entries were made before and after the slayings.
Odd story. Goes to show there are some strange things going on.
I was thinking rumors would already be spreading around Des Moines that a local may get the part for Superman and Kevin Martin being a Superman fan would probably know. That local being Brandon Routh that was born in Des Moines. The Royal Mile is on Fourth Street. Notice the last 5 letters of Fourth.
Keith Noble in the Hocking River. Keith on Noble Street on Martin Luther King Day. Grozelle at the Royal Military Acadamy in Kingston. At least one was not mentioned. Kevin Martin found dead at Principal Park- Notice first 5 letters of Principal. Sounds just like Prince.
Brand could have repeated as in the brand of watch Martin was wearing.
Read the letters Says SANTA CLAUSE, my suspect killed one and left the body to be found the day after Christmas and on the 20th anniversary left Jonbenet Ramsey to be found the Day after CHRISTMAS. Leprauchan. One victim was also one day from St. Patricks. HAIRY. First victim was killed in MaCOMB county. COMB your HAIR. Other victims have been WIGgins, HAIRston. Tooth FAIRy 2nd victim was Judy FERRo. SPIDERMAN. Suspect claims to have killed the Parker baby at the BOWLING alley saying peter PARKER went Bowling. Victims at Jenner were both CHRISTIANS. Suspect is a devil worshipper. Devil faces were left made in black on Driftwood. Suspect thinks that he`s the 2nd ZODIAC killer. Zodiac was thought to be Arthur leigh ALLEN. NOTICE THE MALE VICTIMS LAST NAME IS ALLEN & THEY WERE SHOT IN THE SAME MANNER AND WITHIN 100 MILES OF WHERE ZODIAC KILLED THE VICTIMS AT LAKE BERESSA
Shawn

Watertown, NY

#1611 Sep 18, 2013
Reminds me of Nicholas Rossini who was a Saint Johns student missing during Christmas break.
shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1612 Oct 2, 2013
Something that might be worth checking out. I believe joe Grozelles brother worked on a cruise ship. The killer could be someone his brother worked with and Joe already knew that worked on the ship.
shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1613 Oct 2, 2013
While Grozelle was missing for three weeks before his body was found, a pathologist has testified the body's condition was consistent with being in the water one or two weeks.

That leaves, unexplained, potentially a week of time in his disappearance, a gap that's frustrated his father, Ron, as he has pushed for answers.
shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1614 Oct 5, 2013
Yep, here is the article that mentions the brother

Missing cadet's body found

By Sarah Crosbie, Frank Armstrong and Michael Lea

Friday, November 14, 2003 - 07:00

Yesterday at 8:33 a.m., the body of the missing Royal Military College cadet was pulled from the choppy water of the Cataraqui River in Kingston’s Inner Harbour, metres from the La Salle Causeway.

Joe Grozelle’s brother Jim is working on a cruiseship and making plans to return home.

Also says he was afraid of water.

Where is Taylor? She dead or in hiding?
shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1615 Oct 23, 2013
where is everybody?

Do not know all bout this sfk stuff but can tell you about the Noble Street victim. Got beat up in front of bar on the sidewalk by people dressed like military than apparently was being dragged toward the water by them ,which is out back of the bar. This victim that was dead on Martin Luther King Day on Noble Street in Evans Mills lived on Gardnerville Road.

Now several sources describe the White Mill Dam location where they found Noble in the Hocking River as being a place where they sell garden supplies. Sources like the link below.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Whites-Mill/18...

Here is link that shows where he lived.

http://newzjunky.com/obits/0125doxtaterobit.h...

The date of death may be off in that article. Am not sure but he was dead on MLK day. May be the date they found him given.
shawn

Brooklyn, NY

#1616 Oct 23, 2013
So as can be proven.

Keith Doxtater lived on Gardnerville Road.

Keith Noble found near garden supply store at White Mill Dam

Doxtater in Evans Mills.

Noble at White Mill Dam.

Doxtater on MLK Day.

Noble in Hocking River

And if that is just coincidence how is the other victims explained?

Royal Mile club victim at PRINCipal Park.

Royal Military Academy victim in Kingston.

And where were the victims all that time they were missing as they did not appear to have been in the water the whole time they were missing?

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