The Smiley Faced Killer
Taylor

Holmen, WI

#1516 Jul 29, 2013
LOL LOL Smooth! Does anyone other than me
catch the BRILLANCE of these killers!?? I mean to kill like this and bury and place their bodies in this way? One guy alledgly goes into the police talks about SFK and the police kick him out. I tell you he f brillant! They will go down in history! If I don't laugh, I will cry..
Suspicious Friend

Spanaway, WA

#1517 Jul 29, 2013
mrxxxxx wrote:
In May 2011, a $2.5 million lawsuit was filed against Club 915--which lost its liquor license on Jan. 7, 2011 after a series of other violations--and its security company, Top Flyte Security for ejecting Ellis out of the club. The suit contends that Top Flyte Security assaulted Ellis
Michael Ellis was approached by someone talking into a radio - security? Bouncer? Police impersonator? To my knowledge this person was never identified nor questioned, even though security cameras show Michael Ellis running away from this person in fear. Maybe he was followed by one of the Top Flight Security, possibly the one who assaulted and threw Michael down the stairs inside club 915, and this was why he ran from him in fear? Michael's last name is Ellis, wasn't there a victim found on Ellis Island? Found on Nov. 23, and there was mention of Pier 23 in other cases. Michael worked at a large hotel, other victims worked at a Mariott Hotel. And there was mentioned the name Dunbar and the Jim Dunbar Show - Michael's twin sisters are his half-sisters and their last name is Dunbar. Why didn't the police investigating this case look deeper?
tguy

New York, NY

#1518 Jul 30, 2013
interesting suspicious how these stories fit together like a puzzle. The zodiac called the dunbar show and dan says gary wanted to be the second zodiac. I personally do not believe my friend got in a real cab but it was perhaps an impersonator. The zodiac left crypic clues and now there possibly is someone out there doing the same thing

look at even a bigger picture.There are often cases that seem to mirror each other and le never seems to take much notice. girls bing picked up by similar looking men and disappearing. Woen that look like they could be sisters disappearing. etc. they denied there was ever an alantic child killer bu the families kept pushing for answers. it was not until the zodiac sent in a piece of Stein's shirt thatthey took him seriously. On one hand experts says there are a lage number of serial killers running around at any one time and on the other when you suggest what there crimes might be they try to downplay or even deny . Why does no one question the ceter for homicide that tried and failed to debunk these possible crimes? 4 drownings of young men with a similar profile in the same city over 7 months is far,far above their own average. When the ambulance drivers died le even admitted it was an unusual amount of young men dying at the time.
tguy

New York, NY

#1519 Jul 30, 2013
david reilly was at a bar called Pier 23 which I find odd. The pire office mentioned by Mike F is on route 23. Reilly was the same day as Ross. Nick Rossini was right after Jesse Ross. jesse Ross's nickname-notice nick in Nick Rossini-is opie Taylor. It was Shaffer on the street with the pire office and according to Mark a body was left near Fred Taylor Boulevard. I am assuming that could be Shaffer.
tguy

New York, NY

#1520 Jul 30, 2013
oh btw according to the story on Amber Lynn Wilde there was 900 miles driven._they knew how many miles were on the vehicle before she disappeared. So what is about 400-450 miles away? maybe that is where the body is.
tguy

New York, NY

#1521 Jul 30, 2013
BTW Dan it seems to me the things you posted with the monopoly stuff are just random things. I am not seeing it. If I can not see it I doubt any one else will either. I could create all kinds of patterns if I wanted to but I am not going to work that hard. I already knew who was missing the arm so did not have to keep looking at random names. I knew there was 4 young men that suddenly drowned ,including Blatz.

I read about runningen being at the Nubush City Limits and knew where I saw Bush before -people like luzio that worked at LIMITED brands with the bush bumper sticker. I new when matt lacrosse -who was missing just before Veterans day- that the last victim in lacrosse was a veteran . matt lacrosse also went missing the same day as someone in North Carolina and Matt Lacrosse was at Carolinas bar. Also the same time a car was found abandoned in Caroll County-etc-etc
Taylor

Eau Claire, WI

#1522 Jul 30, 2013
Google maps gives route to the salt mine from Amber's house that are 294 up to 348 miles away. The salt mine may be a good place to look.
tguy

Brooklyn, NY

#1523 Jul 30, 2013
Ellis island is where all the immigrants came to become citizens. The immigrants that came and took indian land and told them how to live in their own country.
tguy

Brooklyn, NY

#1524 Jul 30, 2013
Right about the peterson boarding house is where they took lincoln after Booth shot him. Just realized not only was booth and Olsen and the theater worker missing the same day so was peterson the same day as those 3.

personally I think a lot of the military people were murdered and intentionally targeted. Others i think were Snell on Bush's birthday-Luzio with the Bush bumper sticker-possibly Ellis -victims on Flag day and veterans day. victims with a christian religion theme-along with some of the others just to make clues where some victims still are and some just to make their own version of cryptic clues because they are serial killer fans. That would be my guess how they know each other,but each may have a slightly different motivation but may be united by their love of killing. It is the 90's and they are going to think"now we have this thing called the internet to meet people like nus and create even new ways to kill" and then they do. It is a fact smiley and his pals chatted about how to do the perfect crimes and things like that online.
Taylor

Eau Claire, WI

#1525 Jul 30, 2013
Isn't Ellis Island where the staue of Liberty Is
tguy

Brooklyn, NY

#1526 Aug 1, 2013
Just read some occk stuff-sounds all too familiar-bodies face up arms across chest-body on bruce lane and another in Wayne county-body across from the police station. someone was tauntin le then and someone still is. if it is the same people or person i can not say-these crimes could definitely be inspirations for killers
IllustratedGrrl

Hammond, IN

#1527 Aug 4, 2013
DETROIT wrote:
http://footprintsattheriversed ge.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_arc hive.html Most recent list of drowned missing college
* 48. Willie Jacobson, 19 (NY)
* 47. Josh Szostak, 21 (NY)
* 46. Christopher Melancon, 24 (WI)
* 45. Brad Olsen, 26 (IL) MISSING
* 44. Abel Bolanos, 19 (IA)
* 43. Wade Steffey, 19 (IN)
* 42. Nick Rossini, 21 (MN)
* 41. Jesse Ross, 20 (IL) MISSING
* 40. Lucas Homan, 21 (WI)
* 39. Max Walker, 26 (WI)
* 38. Brian Shaffer, 27 (OH) MISSING
* 37. Scott Radel, 21 (MN)
* 36. Kenji Ohmi, 20 (WI)
* 35. Cullen Fortney, 21 (WI)
* 34. Patrick Kycia, 19 (MN)
* 33. Matt Kruziki, 24 (IA)
* 32. Matthew Soumakis, 31 (IL)
* 31. Albert Campbell, 22 (NY)
* 30. Josh Snell, 22 (WI)
* 29. Chris Thiem, 19 (IN)
* 28. Adam Falcon, 20 (NY)
* 27. Chris Olberding, 18 (OH)
* 26. Marlon Blue, 21 (IL)
* 25. Glenn Leadley, 23 (IL)
* 24. Jared Dion, 21 (WI)
* 23. Nathan Herr, 21 (WI)
* 22. Chad Sharon, 18 (IN)
* 21. Josh Guimond, 21 (MN) MISSING
* 20. Michael Noll, 22 (WI)
* 19. Chris Jenkins, 21 (MN)
* 18. Craig Burrows, 23 (WI)
* 17. Chris Nordby, 27 (MN)
* 16. Eric Blair, 18 (MI)
* 15. Ryan Katcher, 19 (IL)
* 14. Brian Welzien, 21 (IL)
* 13. Patrick Runningen, 23 (WI)
* 12. Ken Christiansen, 19 (MN)
* 11. Nathan Edberg, 21 (MN) MISSING
* 10. Jeffrey Geesey, 21 (WI)
* 09. Trevor Hoheisel, 27 (IL)
* 08. Keith Noble, 19 (OH)
* 07. Nathan Kapfer, 19 (WI)
* 06. Ryan Getz, 21 (MI)
* 05. Anthony Skifton, 19 (WI)
* 04. Charles Blatz, 28 (WI)
* 03. Richard Hlavaty, 19 (WI)
* 02. Patrick McNeil, 21 (NY)
* 01. Morgan White, 19 (MI)
* Unconfirmed - Dale Shields (MI)
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* City: DeKalb (3)
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* City: LaCrosse (10)
* City: St. Cloud (1)
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* costume (2)
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* kicked out of bar (3)
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Just came upon this site while googling for something else, and as I've never heard of this "Smiley Face Killer", started reading. My question to this entry is, if the one's that say "MISSING" next to their names are still missing, as I'm assuming, how does anyone know they were drowned?
IllustratedGrrl

Hammond, IN

#1528 Aug 4, 2013
tsk tsk tsk wrote:
I thought his name was Gary McGreen
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/jonbenet-rams...
Not Gary MacNeil, you are such a crazy McNugget McDetroit.
Is this GDI story a lie like the McStory you told about your Mcdaughter who had a 4.0 grade average went to a major Mcuniversity & had Mcmorals? Then when the Mctruth came out the story was alot Mcdifferent, turns out she gots arrested for being a drug using prostitute who was pushing under age kids into drugs & prostitution?
tsk tsk the Mclies continue. Look out Gary's of the world Detroits looking for a last name for his Mckilla.
New to this site, and story, so sorry if this is a stupid question - but what does GDI stand for? Thanks.
IllustratedGrrl

Hammond, IN

#1529 Aug 4, 2013
tsk tsk tsk wrote:
<quoted text>Where are YOU gonna find one of those? Just pull it out of your rear like you do when your looking for stuff you can use against the R's?
Again, sorry if this is a dumb question, but who are the "R's"?

Since: Mar 07

Detroit, MI

#1530 Aug 4, 2013
IllustratedGrrl wrote:
<quoted text>
New to this site, and story, so sorry if this is a stupid question - but what does GDI stand for? Thanks.
The OCCK case and Smiley Face are on the Jonbenet Ramsey Forum because I believe that the same killer is involved in all 3 murders. R would stand for Ramsey`s. RDI means Ramseys did it. IDI means Intruder did it. GDI means Gary Did It.
tguy

New York, NY

#1531 Aug 5, 2013
Sounds like a possibility to me they are related but nothing I would bet money on. Notice though the occk victims are people like Timothy King and a Royal Oak victim. Even the batman thing sounds lausible,but would not put money on that either. I would put money that something dam strange occurred.

Possible SFK victims are Noble in the Hocking River.- Joe Grozelle in Kingston at the Royal Military Acadamy.- A River qeen victim with the initials MK on the same day scent of a victim is traced to the Martin Luther King monument. Another victim with those initials is Kevin Martin that was at the Royal Mile bar.- These are also he first ad last initials of Martin luther King who is best known for fighting for civil rights and his speech at the Lincoln Memorial.

Suspects such as Archibald Sloan and there seem to be a SLoan Wilson connection. Possible victims like Archer. There was possible sfk graffiti that said something about killing in Vietnam and one of the OCCK suspects said he was killing rich kids as payback for making him kill their children in Vietnam. We know good candidates for SFK are often Military and often from well off families.
tguy

New York, NY

#1532 Aug 5, 2013
notice also initials of Royal Military Acadamy can make arm-something that happens frequently after they find Blatz without his arm.

The one suspect with rich family and government issues had a room mate that was supposed to meet with someone from LE at Palmer Woods-Have to wonder if it was supposed to be SUNDAY as Brad Olsen had a palm and sun tattoos.-Just a thought. Have to go -don't get on much to look into very much at all
tguy

Brooklyn, NY

#1533 Aug 6, 2013
Suspicious- if a hotel is linked to Ellis, I would guess a Sheraton- Ross was at a Sheraton and the dates are almost identical.You often see the same sequence of letters repeating and similarities with victims on similar dates. It often looks like a game of serial killer word scramble . _difficult to do if you do not take sequences in chunks ,rather than individual letters such as possibly the Ros in Rose. Ross has never been found so if the scramble is his location it would be very difficult to know what to unscramble the letters to make.
tguy

Brooklyn, NY

#1534 Aug 6, 2013
Both Ellis and Ross missing 2 days b4 thanksgiving._that may be a factor also.
Of course I am just making an educated guess. I think some things can just be coincidence,but not all. Do believe stronglythere is some kind of killing game being played. Just not sure who exactly is being killed
tguy

Brooklyn, NY

#1535 Aug 6, 2013
I do believe the killer uses initials at times in addition to letters in sequence. The word origin of the name Ross is Rose. -A flower. I believe they often go by the sound and not always the correct spelling. MAE could be may. Put it together and you have Mayflower. that is the ship the pilgrims came over in.

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