The Smiley Faced Killer
Tenneguy

Clarksville, TN

#825 Feb 23, 2010
intrigued wrote:
What is the connection to the monastary?
Josh Guimond
Tenneguy

Clarksville, TN

#826 Feb 23, 2010
New information was added to this entry on November 10.

In the process of investigating the disappearance of Joshua Guimond, new information has been uncovered showing that Abbot John Klassen and Abbey officials knowingly misled the public in 2002 regarding Brother Isaac Connolly.

On October 2, 2002 the St. Cloud Times reported that a settlement agreement between St. John’s and several victims had been reached.

Three days later, and one month before Joshua Guimond disappeared, another article appeared in the St. Cloud Times.

This October 5, 2002 article [ Link ] was about Brother Isaac Connolly taking a leave for “conduct concerns”. According to Abbey spokesperson William Skudlarek there was one allegation, that “Connolly’s conduct does not fall under any legal definition of sexual abuse”, that “the allegation does not involve a student”, and that Abbot John Klassen didn’t know about the allegation until the spring of 2002.

The previous paragraph contains four separate lies by the Abbey and Abbot. They almost got away with it.

Brother Isaac Connolly was accused of two separate incidents of misconduct with students at St. John’s University in Collegeville, Minnesota. After supplying alcohol to a 19 year old student, Connolly took a nude shower with the 19 year old male. After several years of grooming, Connolly made an attempted to sodomize a 23 year old student.

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Tenneguy

Clarksville, TN

#827 Feb 23, 2010
Apparently Josh knew too much and then he disappears. Scent dogs are used and they lead to a monastery. They refuse to allow a search of the grounds and the police and monastery officials threaten the Guimonds and tell them to back off.
cody

New Baltimore, MI

#828 Feb 23, 2010
From Wisconsin wrote:
Yet another missing college student has been found drowned in the Mississippi River on 2-16-10 Craig Meyers from La Crosse, WI. He was at a wedding reception and then went out to the bars. You can read the story at www.weau.com The police say only one set of footprints in the snow to the river again. I def. think a serial killer is responsible for all of these river deaths.
??????????
Um.....Dan will connect the obvious names, it fits.
The names of where the man went and was found ???
Yet, below the police say there's no serial killer ??
Could this be a copy cat crime ?? Someone who reads these sites and picked the right name and place or just a coincedence ?
I hope it gets a real investigation and it's not just pushed aside as an accident. This is sad. They all are. But, how did he get away from his friends and end up so messed up ?? So stoned drunk ?
I wonder if police will tell the truth about any -- not suppose to be there, type drugs ? It makes no sense ?---------

THE PAPER SAYS :

La Crosse Police Chief Ed Kondracki released the following statement Friday afternoon, addressing rumors of a possible serial killer connected to Meyers' death, and the drowning deaths of 8 other men in La Crosse:

"The previous river drownings have all been thoroughly investigated and reinvestigated by the Wisconsin Division of Criminal Investigation and La Crosse Police Department, with a review by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. There is no serial killer!"

"Police officers and (Operation) River Watch volunteers have saved over fifty people in recent years who were either in the water, or on the edge of, or attempting suicide in the river. Some cases are nearly identical to this case."

"To the rumor mongers: Please show some respect for the Meyers family and the men and woman who police our streets. Wild accusations of a rogue cop, long-range hypnotists and seductive females, or national smiley-face gangs are simply beyond the pale and demeaning to all."
intrigued

Hudson, WI

#829 Feb 23, 2010
From what I understand about this incident, the kid was dropped off and then wandered around downtown for some 7 blocks to get by the river. He is captured on security cameras walking alone.

There are tracks at the top of the rocks alongside the river and then marks where it looks like somebody slid down them, and one set of footprints leading to the river.
From Wisconsin

United States

#830 Feb 24, 2010
A possible survivor?????? According to www.wqow.com (Eau Claire News) Crews pull man from banks of Half Moon Lake, brought to hospital. On Feb. 23, 2010 Here is what the article states....An area man is taken to the hospital after he was pulled from the bank of a local lake. The U W Eau Claire campus police cheif says crews found Allan Jarocki from Fall Creek after a search Tuesday. Jarokci was near the water on the Carson Park side of Half Moon Lake. His mother called university police saying that he was missing. He apparently called a friend saying that he didnt know exactly where he was. Authorities believe Jarocki was confused and had some sort of medical condition. They used a cell phone signal to help find him. He was transported to Sacred Heart Hospital where were told he is in stable condition. That is all the article says. HELLOOOO I hope they investigate this very throughly.
From Wisconsin

United States

#831 Feb 24, 2010
I forgot to add that he is in stable condition at the hospital.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#832 Feb 24, 2010
intrigued wrote:
Dan I haven't read through every post on here but you seem to think like I do... this responsible party (whether or not names have any significance in how the kids are chose or not, I don't know) knows the names of the kids before he kills them; he stalks them somehow, he knows where they are going to be, he knows that they're going to be leaving home on that given day.
I've kicked around the idea that it's somebody creeping these kids Facebook & MySpace pages because people communicate on there back and forth with friends about stuff like planning get togethers, etc. However I have an account on here and am friends with people who were friends with Luke Homan from La Crosse and he didn't even have a Facebook account, or a MySpace account. Same goes for Snell. Plus, there were a lot of drownings going on long before either of those two sites became popular.
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but clues have been left at the scenes of Duluth drownings. Grant Geiselhart was a student at UM-Morris and Nathan (nickname was Fish) Williams was a student at UM-Morris. Geiselhart was found in Chester Creek in Duluth on October 10, 2004. Williams told college friends he was going to be going on a fishing trip that would've taken him almost certainly through Duluth, and he said he was going to be home on October 10; the same date Geiselhart was found. He did not own a boat so he would've likely been fishing from the shore. Williams hasn't been seen since.
The words "Flow on with the FISHES God Grants Pure Wishes" were left close to Grant Geiselhart's place of death. You have Williams' nickname and Geiselhart's first name appearing in that phrase. Their incidents were just prior to Columbus Day, indicating that the killer/killers were trying to get Columbus Day press.
I think that is pretty obvious that these victims are being stalked somehow... the how is the head scratcher.
Some killings are at random. He has a police scanner and about 10 of the victims were grabbed just after police released them. Some victims are grabbed to match dates of other victims already abducted on a date in the past or because it`s a Holiday. Yes it`s obvious that he has a face book account and knew that Williams was Fish and killed names with cities in a row that spell Class then killed the facebook clown. Others are targeted for their names. I`ve read somewhere about a school breakin where he got some of the records. In each instance he prefers to target at least 2 things about the victims name, city, school, county must match the LIST. Zodiac related names, LINCOLN, serial killer related, known killers, superhero, animals, Campbell-NorBERG related, victims on Holidays often at random, sports teams, RAMSEY, McNEIL, cass, two that match such as Portland, Grinnell, Polsen, but in different states, Riverside, Moon, ICE, brothers, pearl, Indian, victims at Oktoberfest, chester, arrow, covington, vcitims dressed in costumes, etc...

But why worry about that. The killer is Gary McNeil. He`s even on casino video with Steinkeoway before his murder. Why not just put tracking devices on Gary McNeil`s vehicles and catch him in the act. It`s obvious that he`s the killer. Everything matches him, same three items taken from OCCK victims match Smiley Face exactly-cross, st. christopher medals and st. patrick pins, OCCK boys being molested and Smiley face being all boys, the BERG from NorBERG, CAMPBELL from Norberg dying in CAMPBELL county, SHAVER and Shaffer from norberg dying near Gillette, victims names matching MCNEIL, patrick MCNEIL, MCNELIs, M KLINE, MCNEILly. Also his past use of GHB matches the Smiley Face victims and the pattern of OCCK victims being held 4-14 days, the attacks in the winter, and only the boys being molested matches the MI Oakland County Child victims exactly.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#833 Feb 24, 2010
intrigued wrote:
For those of you unfamiliar with the roads in Wisconsin and Minnesota...
Here is a very detailed road map of Minnesota. Locations of suspected victims from west to east on Interstate 94 are Moorhead, Collegville; right next to St. Cloud, St. Cloud, and Minneapolis. The locations of suspected victims going north out of Minneapolis on Interstate 35 are Minneapolis, Hinckley, and Duluth. Notice how you go through all locations staying on one interstate going east/west and north/south from Minneapolis?
http://www.minnesota-map.org/minnesota-road-m...
And here is a detailed road map of Wisconsin, where the locations of suspected victims include Eau Claire and La Crosse.
http://www.wisconsin-map.org/wisconsin-road-m...
Eau Claire is due east of Minneapolis on Interstate 94 and La Crosse is pretty much due south of Eau Claire; the three cities form almost a perfect right triangle when you connect their locations.
In the fall of 2007, the La Crosse PD ruled out the possibility of a serial killer. Since then, there has been some very suspicious incidents. In the spring/summer of 2008, smiley face graffiti appeared on roads around the areas of small Wisconsin towns Durand and Arcadia. Durand is close to Eau Claire and Arcadia is close to La Crosse.
In April of 2009, almost two weeks apart, two more very suspicious incidents. A kid in Anoka, MN went missing near the Rum River and was found in a pond on a golf course. Then a kid near Red Wing, MN was found submerged in the water in his SUV. We have the Rum River & Red Wing... Redrum = murder backwards; perhaps a clue that these incidents are not accidental as everybody thinks, but murders. Anoka is close to Minneapolis and Red Wing is about an hour drive from Durand (where smiley face graffiti was found in 2008) and about an 80 minute drive to Eau Claire, where there have been 3 drownings.
RED WING makes much more sense when you consider this started with Jonbenet RAMSey murder, followed by FALCON, LIOeN, METZ, blue MARLIN, PACKER, and victim at RED WING.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#834 Feb 24, 2010
*2/14/10 craig MEYERS-LACROSSE-body Mississippi-VALENTINES DAY-LACROSSE county-
reception MORMON COULEE road LACROSSE-HOLIDAY-MEYERS (stores)
LACROSSE-game
MEYERS-store
HOLIDAY-Valentines Day
MORMON-religion
COULEE-collie
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#835 Feb 24, 2010
Josh Guimond-This is all old news from last year. Why drag it up now? He disappeared in St. Johns which has at least 11 known sex offenders living there. Dogs have also traced 4 or 5 other victims there. That doesn`t make it true or false that monks killed or molested him or are the smiley face killers.
Smiley Face leaves false clues such as links to Trane. Gary linked Pervinkler to Judy Ferro`s murder, and left a hat with the same SBTC as at Jonbenet`s murder at Michael Helgoth`s murder.

OLD NEWS
Father of Josh Guimond says university has withheld information
November 3, 2009 by Lynda Jensen, Editor
Filed under Howard Lake, Montrose, Waverly
4 Comments
MAPLE LAKE, MN — As the seventh year anniversary approaches for the disappearance of missing college student Joshua Guimond Nov. 10, his family is preparing for a “Justice for Josh,” march to keep his memory alive.

In addition to the march, the family has few kinds words to say about the university. According to Joshua’s father, Brian Guimond,“One of several new facts regarding Joshua’s disappearance that we need to explore involves 11 known sex offenders who resided on campus when Joshua disappeared. If that is the case, we may never know the truth. The University and Abbey have a long history of withholding information from the public and law enforcement authorities.” The public needs to be aware of this.

Guimond disappeared after leaving a small card party as a student at St. John’s University in Collegeville in 2002.

On the night of his disappearance, Josh, who was 20 at the time he went missing, left a small card party at a friend’s apartment on the St. John’s University campus around midnight on Nov. 9, 2002. His friends believed he was just making a trip to the bathroom, but when he did not come back after 15 minutes, they assumed he had just walked back to his dorm room. He has not been seen since.

Joshua did not have his glasses or contact lenses, his car, credit cards, or even a coat that was appropriate for the weather. Nothing was missing from his dorm room. His parents remain convinced that he was taken against his will.

· St. John’s recently denied a request by the Guimond family to mark the anniversary with an on-campus walk to raise awareness, claiming such an event “would not be productive”.

· The seven year anniversary of Joshua’s disappearance is November 10th

Unanswered Questions
On December 31, 2002 authorities were denied access to search the monastery at St. John's University. The monastery, St. John's Abbey, is well known for housing monks and priests who have been put on restrictions after being accused of or admitting to sex abuse.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#836 Feb 24, 2010
Molly wrote:
The Smiley Face Killer is not Gary. I read the SMF killer is connected to a monastary in St.Cloud,MN. They are also looking into a theory that this pedophile serial killing monk is somehow connected to Jacob Wetterlings abduction.
Gary Mcneil`s sister lives in MN. Gary`s sister has also named Gary as the Michigan Oakland County Child Killer. Jacob Wetterling disappeared when Gary and his mother were visiting the sisters house. If questioned she can verify that Gary mysteriously disappeared for a couple hours and reappeared smelling like he crapped himself. His version of the story that he had a mask and fake gun, made all 3 lie down, chose one, made the others run off, then carried the boy across the field to the car. He couldn`t wait his usual 2 hours and the boy released on him when he was in the act. This matches the fact that of the 4 MI Oakland County Child victims that only the 2 boys were molested and after dead. This also matches the Smiley Face victims being GHBed so as not to resist. My friend Scott describes a similar experience with Gary having white powder and choking him into drinking beer with it in it. After the 2nd occurance of this happening Scott remembered. Many of the Smiley Face victims show traces of GHB. More so in recent cases, victims are confused and often scared by the killer toward the water and walk out onto the thin ice, thus leaving only one set of tracks.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#837 Feb 24, 2010
REMEMBER WHEN i TALKED ABOUT MILLION & MILLER & MILLION MAN MARCH
Zodiac killed at a Golf Course and on 10-11-Smiley Face left a body on a Golf course between 10th & 11th hole

PORTLAND 3/11/09 Ezra Milan PORTLAND ME- body FORE river ---FORE-GOLF-MILAN MAN in MARCH
MARCH 11, 2009
3/16/09 Juan Garcia PORTLAND BODY Willamette river
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#838 Feb 24, 2010
intrigued wrote:
Dan I haven't read through every post on here but you seem to think like I do... this responsible party (whether or not names have any significance in how the kids are chose or not, I don't know) knows the names of the kids before he kills them; he stalks them somehow, he knows where they are going to be, he knows that they're going to be leaving home on that given day.
I've kicked around the idea that it's somebody creeping these kids Facebook & MySpace pages because people communicate on there back and forth with friends about stuff like planning get togethers, etc. However I have an account on here and am friends with people who were friends with Luke Homan from La Crosse and he didn't even have a Facebook account, or a MySpace account. Same goes for Snell. Plus, there were a lot of drownings going on long before either of those two sites became popular.
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but clues have been left at the scenes of Duluth drownings. Grant Geiselhart was a student at UM-Morris and Nathan (nickname was Fish) Williams was a student at UM-Morris. Geiselhart was found in Chester Creek in Duluth on October 10, 2004. Williams told college friends he was going to be going on a fishing trip that would've taken him almost certainly through Duluth, and he said he was going to be home on October 10; the same date Geiselhart was found. He did not own a boat so he would've likely been fishing from the shore. Williams hasn't been seen since.
The words "Flow on with the FISHES God Grants Pure Wishes" were left close to Grant Geiselhart's place of death. You have Williams' nickname and Geiselhart's first name appearing in that phrase. Their incidents were just prior to Columbus Day, indicating that the killer/killers were trying to get Columbus Day press.
I think that is pretty obvious that these victims are being stalked somehow... the how is the head scratcher.
You`re friends with Luke Homan. Here`s one of the best proofs that the Smiley Face murders are not just random drownings of drunken boys.

Wade Steffey attended party ROSS road, then next victim ROSSini, then next victim jesse ROSS who was a VIBE dj, then Homan missing VIBE bar. 4 in a row ROSS-ROSS-ROSS & vibe-vibe. Nooone left out.
cody

New Baltimore, MI

#839 Feb 24, 2010
Why can't you stick with normal conversation ?
You finally touch on something real, then ruin it every time ?
If it was Gary M., they'd have him by now ??
Now he's in a video ? Like the bartender never mentioned in the article you referred to ?
Nothing matches the occk, not in truth.
Just in your made up stories.
There is no connection.

"But why worry about that. The killer is Gary McNeil. He`s even on casino video with Steinkeoway before his murder. Why not just put tracking devices on Gary McNeil`s vehicles and catch him in the act. It`s obvious that he`s the killer. Everything matches him, same three items taken from OCCK victims match Smiley Face exactly-cross, st. christopher medals and st. patrick pins, OCCK boys being molested and Smiley face being all boys, the BERG from NorBERG, CAMPBELL from Norberg dying in CAMPBELL county, SHAVER and Shaffer from norberg dying near Gillette, victims names matching MCNEIL, patrick MCNEIL, MCNELIs, M KLINE, MCNEILly. Also his past use of GHB matches the Smiley Face victims and the pattern of OCCK victims being held 4-14 days, the attacks in the winter, and only the boys being molested matches the MI Oakland County Child victims exactly.
Dan in Detroit
Detroit, MI"
cody

New Baltimore, MI

#840 Feb 24, 2010
Dan in Detroit wrote:
<quoted text>Gary Mcneil`s sister lives in MN. Gary`s sister has also named Gary as the Michigan Oakland County Child Killer. Jacob Wetterling disappeared when Gary and his mother were visiting the sisters house. If questioned she can verify that Gary mysteriously disappeared for a couple hours and reappeared smelling like he crapped himself. His version of the story that he had a mask and fake gun, made all 3 lie down, chose one, made the others run off, then carried the boy across the field to the car. He couldn`t wait his usual 2 hours and the boy released on him when he was in the act. This matches the fact that of the 4 MI Oakland County Child victims that only the 2 boys were molested and after dead. This also matches the Smiley Face victims being GHBed so as not to resist. My friend Scott describes a similar experience with Gary having white powder and choking him into drinking beer with it in it. After the 2nd occurance of this happening Scott remembered. Many of the Smiley Face victims show traces of GHB. More so in recent cases, victims are confused and often scared by the killer toward the water and walk out onto the thin ice, thus leaving only one set of tracks.
Well, now the cops can go pick him up ?? They know where he lives ??
Now he took Jacob too ?
And he keeps filling you in on this info ??
Again, you get off on stories of child rapes and killings.
Gary did not do this, none of it.
And people........the boys were sexually tortured before they died. Sad, but true. I won't debade this. I've posted before as to how I know.
cody

New Baltimore, MI

#841 Feb 24, 2010
intrigued wrote:
From what I understand about this incident, the kid was dropped off and then wandered around downtown for some 7 blocks to get by the river. He is captured on security cameras walking alone.
There are tracks at the top of the rocks alongside the river and then marks where it looks like somebody slid down them, and one set of footprints leading to the river.
Still looks funny, somehow ? I hope the police look really good, don't just toss it aside. I guess if the family thinks it's an accident, well it might be. Sad.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#842 Feb 24, 2010
cody wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, now the cops can go pick him up ?? They know where he lives ??
Now he took Jacob too ?
And he keeps filling you in on this info ??
Again, you get off on stories of child rapes and killings.
Gary did not do this, none of it.
And people........the boys were sexually tortured before they died. Sad, but true. I won't debade this. I've posted before as to how I know.
Your brain is so gone it`s unbelievable. I`ve posted about EVERY ONE of these things before and you ran your mouth before when I posted it and you don`t even remember having read it or that you ran your mouth about it last time.
Dan in Detroit

Grand Rapids, MI

#843 Feb 24, 2010
The name Campbell appears in victim names and where the dogs paw was found in Canada. Possible reason. John Wilkes Booth learned that President Lincoln was supposed visit wounded soldiers at Campbell General Hospital for a performance of Still Waters Run Deep ...www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.or g/inside.asp?ID=126&subjec tID=4 - Cached
intrigued

Hudson, WI

#844 Feb 24, 2010
Here's something else I find weird.

River Falls is very close to the Twin Cities and Interstate 94. River Falls is a college town as well. They have like 12 bars on Main St. and a lot of them have 2-for-1 drink specials and some of the bar serve liter sized mixed drinks for real cheap. It's a pretty big binge drinking scene.

Right behind Main St. is the Kinnickinnic River; it is very close to the bars and by close, I mean like not even 100 yards behind them. It is also in close proximity to the dorms on campus. I have never heard of any drunk college students falling into water in River Falls and drowning.

Here is a map of River Falls just to show you

http://www.kinnicfalls.org/images/map_of_rive...

The dorms are along Cascade Ave and go all the way down to the intersection of Cascade & Main. There are apartments further down Main in the vicinity of Foster, Broadway, Orange, and Cemetary. You would have a lot of college kids walking this way after bar close as well. And yet, no drownings. I bring this up to show that I don't think what's going on is simply explained by drunken college kids wandering around by water and falling in.

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