Why kill Jonbenet
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Jack

Johnson City, TN

#1 Oct 22, 2009
Did you ever really wonder why anyone would kill a 6-year old?Did JB know something on the killer and they was scared she would start talking?I think the motive here is obvious.this was well planned out,and covered up.

“Sarah Palin, Go Home!”

Since: Aug 09

Bexley, Ohio

#2 Oct 22, 2009
Jack wrote:
Did you ever really wonder why anyone would kill a 6-year old?Did JB know something on the killer and they was scared she would start talking?I think the motive here is obvious.this was well planned out,and covered up.
Well, Jack, I always wonder what kind of person it takes to kill an innocent kid. Even if I couldn't stand a kid, I'd never hurt a child.

I don't think the murder and the staging were planned, though. I think some tragic accident happened in the house that night, some family tragedy, and the Ramseys decided they'd rather cover it up than face the music.

I may be wrong, I may be right, I don't really care which. I just hope we have the definitive answer some day soon. But I don't think we ever will.
fr brown

Walnut Creek, CA

#3 Oct 22, 2009
I, on the other hand, am amazed that so many children live to adulthood. I think we should all give ourselves a pat on the back :)

“Sarah Palin, Go Home!”

Since: Aug 09

Bexley, Ohio

#4 Oct 22, 2009
fr brown wrote:
I, on the other hand, am amazed that so many children live to adulthood. I think we should all give ourselves a pat on the back :)
You know, I'm surprised JB lived as long as she did.
learnin

Valley Falls, KS

#5 Oct 22, 2009
Jack wrote:
Did you ever really wonder why anyone would kill a 6-year old?Did JB know something on the killer and they was scared she would start talking?I think the motive here is obvious.this was well planned out,and covered up.
That is a very real possibility. It's very possible she knew something and someone had to silence her....

“Sarah Palin, Go Home!”

Since: Aug 09

Bexley, Ohio

#6 Oct 22, 2009
learnin wrote:
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That is a very real possibility. It's very possible she knew something and someone had to silence her....
What would a six-year-old who couldn't even read her own name know?

Unless someone was molesting her, I don't think there's anything she could know that would cause her murder.
Shillow grave

Sherman Oaks, CA

#7 Oct 23, 2009
Dead kids don't talk!

I think it is to kill the witness from IDing them to police, but I have heard there are psychological reasons motivating pedophiles to kill there victims.

What is interesting is that many have argued that if JonBenet was killed by a pedophile, why didn't he remove her from the house where he could spend his time with her with out being bothered.
But if you look at the most recent case of Somer Thompson and many others, the young victim is often killed right after the sexual assault.
So apparently pedophiles are not afraid to take their window of opportunity and grab a child and take her a short distance to rape and kill them.

So I guess the point I am trying to make is that pedophiles could take their victims somewhere to hold them captive as slaves like Jaycee Lee Dugard, but many case examples shows plenty of examples of impulsive rape once and kill right after just a short distances from where the child was abducted.

Abducting a child in broad daylight off a street and taking her a 100ft to a vacant house to rape and then kill her is not much different then abducting a child from her bedroom while everyone is asleep and taking her a 100ft to a remote basement cellar to rape and then kill her.
Jack

Johnson City, TN

#8 Oct 23, 2009
CSI-I think you hit the nail on the head,I think JB was being Molested.and that man either killed her himself or had it done.
JB was old enough and smart enough to be able to describe what was happening to her to the Police or other adults.
I think this is where the focus should be placed in order to solve this case.
learnin

Valley Falls, KS

#9 Oct 23, 2009
CSIEngland wrote:
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What would a six-year-old who couldn't even read her own name know?
Unless someone was molesting her, I don't think there's anything she could know that would cause her murder.
Yes, someone might have been molesting her.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#10 Oct 23, 2009
Jack wrote:
Did you ever really wonder why anyone would kill a 6-year old?Did JB know something on the killer and they was scared she would start talking?I think the motive here is obvious.this was well planned out,and covered up.
When the going gets tough, kill something, something easy, then blame it on a God. That's what people do, that's what Patsy did.

“Sarah Palin, Go Home!”

Since: Aug 09

Bexley, Ohio

#11 Oct 24, 2009
learnin wrote:
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Yes, someone might have been molesting her.
Who do you think was molesting her? Just personally, I think that's the only reason someone would plan to kill her. But if it was planned, I think it would have been better planned.
Biz

Tampa, FL

#12 Oct 24, 2009
Shillow grave wrote:
Dead kids don't talk!
I think it is to kill the witness from IDing them to police, but I have heard there are psychological reasons motivating pedophiles to kill there victims.
What is interesting is that many have argued that if JonBenet was killed by a pedophile, why didn't he remove her from the house where he could spend his time with her with out being bothered.
But if you look at the most recent case of Somer Thompson and many others, the young victim is often killed right after the sexual assault.
So apparently pedophiles are not afraid to take their window of opportunity and grab a child and take her a short distance to rape and kill them.
So I guess the point I am trying to make is that pedophiles could take their victims somewhere to hold them captive as slaves like Jaycee Lee Dugard, but many case examples shows plenty of examples of impulsive rape once and kill right after just a short distances from where the child was abducted.
Abducting a child in broad daylight off a street and taking her a 100ft to a vacant house to rape and then kill her is not much different then abducting a child from her bedroom while everyone is asleep and taking her a 100ft to a remote basement cellar to rape and then kill her.
I have considered this possibility but then why didn't the killer just take her and kill her. Why leave a bizzarre 3 page RN? Why leave her in the house with bondage type stuff?
I think the crime was either about child pornography or it was a sadistic pedophile who had no where to take her. Therefore the crime had to be done in the house. I think it is a very disturbed person who had been doing this for a very long time.

“Sarah Palin, Go Home!”

Since: Aug 09

Bexley, Ohio

#13 Oct 24, 2009
Biz wrote:
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I have considered this possibility but then why didn't the killer just take her and kill her. Why leave a bizzarre 3 page RN? Why leave her in the house with bondage type stuff?
I think the crime was either about child pornography or it was a sadistic pedophile who had no where to take her. Therefore the crime had to be done in the house. I think it is a very disturbed person who had been doing this for a very long time.
I don't want to close my mind to an intruder theory altogether, but why would a sadistic pedophile come after her on Christmas night when three other Ramseys were in the home? John was gone most of the time and all a pedophile would have to contend with was Patsy and Burke.

If he'd been doing this for a very long time, then why did he suddenly have no place to take her to?

Now, I'll say, I don't go along with the scenario that John Ramsey was molesting his daughter and Patsy caught him at it. Why on earth would JR molest his daughter on Christmas night, with Burke and Patsy both there, and when they were planning on getting up at 5:30 the next morning? That would make no sense, either.

But it does seem someone was molesting this little girl before she was murdered. Days before, possibly weeks and months before.
PsychoNutcase

Denver, CO

#14 Oct 24, 2009
CSIEngland wrote:
But it does seem someone was molesting this little girl before she was murdered. Days before, possibly weeks and months before.
But not a woman, right? Women don't molest or abuse or dominate, especially with you and Frenchie. Right? No, it isn't you in your life, it isn't a woman in the Ramsey case ... It's male ... "out there somwhere".

Where's the evidence?
Biz

Tampa, FL

#15 Oct 24, 2009
CSIEngland wrote:
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I don't want to close my mind to an intruder theory altogether, but why would a sadistic pedophile come after her on Christmas night when three other Ramseys were in the home? John was gone most of the time and all a pedophile would have to contend with was Patsy and Burke.
If he'd been doing this for a very long time, then why did he suddenly have no place to take her to?
Now, I'll say, I don't go along with the scenario that John Ramsey was molesting his daughter and Patsy caught him at it. Why on earth would JR molest his daughter on Christmas night, with Burke and Patsy both there, and when they were planning on getting up at 5:30 the next morning? That would make no sense, either.
But it does seem someone was molesting this little girl before she was murdered. Days before, possibly weeks and months before.
Well I have a feeling the perpetrator had been going into homes with the parents there before. It's an even bigger high for him.
I think he had an uncontrolable urge to be with her at Christmas. Christmas is a sad time for many. I would suspect that there was a breakup with his personal home atmosphere. That this triggered his urges that had long been dormant. He may have driven a great distance to satisfy this urge so that is why he had no place to take her or perhaps he was staying with friend in town. Just a thought. I just have never heard of a case where the pedophile didn't take the child with him. It is a very rare situation.
CORONER

Moline, IL

#16 Oct 24, 2009
SHE friggin hung herself after losing that dumb beauty pageant.
PsychoNutcase

Denver, CO

#17 Oct 24, 2009
CORONER wrote:
SHE friggin hung herself after losing that dumb beauty pageant.
At last, case solved. Thank you.
FoolsGold

Cape Coral, FL

#18 Oct 25, 2009
Why kill?
Well, sometimes its simply just a fun thing to do.
And if you've just committed some rather unspeakable acts of perversion for fun, then you are already probably the type of person who would be willing to continue doing fun things particularly when those fun things involve getting rid of the only witness.
Did she know the identity of the killer or was it simply that she was old enough to give a good description?

If she had been randomly selected by some passerby he would probably still kill her simply because its part of the fun.

That fanciful James Bondish note was fun, perhaps his warped mind just felt the killing was a continuation of it.
why_nut

Forest Hills, NY

#20 Oct 26, 2009
Jack wrote:
Did you ever really wonder why anyone would kill a 6-year old?Did JB know something on the killer and they was scared she would start talking?I think the motive here is obvious.this was well planned out,and covered up.
We were told why JonBenet was killed, by Patsy herself.

"She'll never know cancer, or the death of a child."

It is true -- JonBenet was at risk of dying from cancer. Her mother died from a genetically-inherited form of cancer. Her paternal grandmother died of cancer. Her maternal grandmother died at the too-young age of 68 (just two years older than John Ramsey is now!) from diabetes, after having suffered from crippling arthritis and diabetic amputation. Patsy knew her only daughter was at great risk of suffering from a wide array of devasting diseases as she got older, and Patsy also knew that at a time in JonBenet's life when she would need her mother by her side, Patsy would not be present to support her.

Why kill JonBenet at the age of six, on Christmas Day? JonBenet was still innocent enough to believe there was a Santa Claus, but more importantly, she was still young enough to believe wholeheartedly in God and Jesus. The words which left John Ramsey's lips on December 26th ("There is no God") would never leave JonBenet's lips if she died before she became old enough to learn about the concept of doubt, whether of Santa or of God. No wonder the word "purity" was so important for the Ramseys to put on her grave.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#21 Oct 26, 2009
why_nut wrote:
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We were told why JonBenet was killed, by Patsy herself.
"She'll never know cancer, or the death of a child."
It is true -- JonBenet was at risk of dying from cancer. Her mother died from a genetically-inherited form of cancer. Her paternal grandmother died of cancer. Her maternal grandmother died at the too-young age of 68 (just two years older than John Ramsey is now!) from diabetes, after having suffered from crippling arthritis and diabetic amputation. Patsy knew her only daughter was at great risk of suffering from a wide array of devasting diseases as she got older, and Patsy also knew that at a time in JonBenet's life when she would need her mother by her side, Patsy would not be present to support her.
Why kill JonBenet at the age of six, on Christmas Day? JonBenet was still innocent enough to believe there was a Santa Claus, but more importantly, she was still young enough to believe wholeheartedly in God and Jesus. The words which left John Ramsey's lips on December 26th ("There is no God") would never leave JonBenet's lips if she died before she became old enough to learn about the concept of doubt, whether of Santa or of God. No wonder the word "purity" was so important for the Ramseys to put on her grave.
Yup, Patsy put JonBenet in a Heaven so "that child" could regain the qualities of perfection that she was losing at the hands of the world and Patsy herself.

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