enough already; ARREST PAM PAUGH!

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jahazafat

Grandville, MI

#1 Aug 31, 2006
If there is to ever be a resolution Pam Paugh must be detained, questioned, arrested, and charged with partcipation in a conspiracy to cover up the tragedy of JonBenet. She was Patsy's patsy.

Pam Paugh was allowed into the crime scene to get funeral clothes for the family but also took out JonBenet's dolls at the Ramsey's request. One particular doll had a tan cotton body and was dressed in a shedding navy wool outfit. All fibers linked to the killer. This same doll may have had duct tape used on it's back for a minor repair type issue. A replacement doll was ordered and delivered to John Ramsey's office within days of the funeral.

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It's too coincidental for this to mean anything other than the parents of JonBenet actively staged her death to be the sensational crime it has become.
jahazafat

Portage, MI

#2 Sep 1, 2006
Pam Paugh was living in Atlanta when Nedra ordered the first Molly doll and was likely there for Thanksgiving 1996 when Nedra is suspected of presnted this doll to JonBenet. She does have the information that would crack this case wide open.

Think of it like this... If a business man were murdered his brief case would be considered important enough that the police would look through it. For human growth and development specialists play is considered the work of children and toys are the tools of childhood.

ARREST PAM PAUGH
jahazafat

Lancaster, WI

#3 Sep 4, 2006
Pam Paugh has never been questioned regarding her actions at the crime scene. She was quoted to say she went in with a list of things. To start at square one the circumstances of this list need to be accounted for. Who asked specifically for what and was she told exact locations. What did Patsy want out and what did John want out. Were they in agreement over the dolls?

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I don't know how much money was spent on the Karr fiasco what with the private jet and DNA tests but there are actually innocent children who went to bed cold and hungry last night and they instead gave this guy the time of day. Colorado should be ashamed of itself.
gink

Edison, NJ

#4 Sep 4, 2006
jahazafat wrote:
Pam Paugh has never been questioned regarding her actions at the crime scene. She was quoted to say she went in with a list of things. To start at square one the circumstances of this list need to be accounted for. Who asked specifically for what and was she told exact locations. What did Patsy want out and what did John want out. Were they in agreement over the dolls?
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I don't know how much money was spent on the Karr fiasco what with the private jet and DNA tests but there are actually innocent children who went to bed cold and hungry last night and they instead gave this guy the time of day. Colorado should be ashamed of itself.
INTERESTING NAME....BECAREFUL SOMEONE MIGHT IMPLY IT AS SUTTLE SUGESTION RELATING TO MATERIAL IN RANSOM NOTE OF HOW BEHAVIOR WILL OCCUR TO HOW GIRL WILL DIE, AND THE NEW UK DOCUMENTARY TIE TO WHAT PRESIDENT BUSH HAS BEEN FIGHTING IN HIS TERM BEFORE HIS ASSISNATION, THE WAR ON...

cOOL NAME AND I DONT THINK OF IT AS REALY THAT YOU INVENTED IT FOR A ASPECIFIC REASON LIKE SUPPORTING THE DIVERSIONS THROWN IN AUTHOITIES FACE, BUT IT IS SIMILAT IN REGAURDS TO WHAT I JUST MENTIONED.

NOTE: i AM NOT AGAINST ANY RACE RELIGION ETCC.. SO PLEASE DONT BE OFFENDED, JUST A POINT ABOUT PRE EXISTING THINGS MENTIONE DABOVE IF ONE WAS TO REVISIT THE RANSOM NOTE, THE ARTICL ON THE DEATH OF A PRESIDENT DOCUMETARY TO BE AIRED IN UK AND THE OTHER INTERVIEW WHERE THE WORD DIVERSIONS: WAS USED TO DESCRIBE TRACEYS HOBBIES. rEMEMBER, SOMEONE IS INSULTING AUTHORITIES BY THROWING THINGS IN THEIR FACE THAT IS NOT BEEN NOTICED BY POLICE YET..EGOTISTICAL MOCKERY BY HIM. THANKS jahazafat.
Janice

Kitchener, Canada

#5 Sep 4, 2006
What about Santa? JonBenet claimed to have told someone on Christmas day 1996, that she was going to see Santa that night! Maybe this was a mall santa, that JonBenet went to see. He could have told Jonbenet he would come to see her Christmas night.
jahazafat

Troy, ID

#6 Sep 4, 2006
JonBenet was set to have a second visit from Santa Claus with more presents and festivities in Charlevoix. This is a very common occurance in blended families. And this was a blended family with half brothers and sisters and even a step mother.
Henrietta McPhee

Bristol, UK

#7 Sep 5, 2006
I think if jahazafat KNOWS, rather than just suspects, that the fibers at the crime scene came from Ramsey dolls then she should collect the fibers from that type of Ramsey doll and send those fibers to the CBI lab for comparison purposes.

My feeling is that there are competent forensic experts at the CBI lab. Those experts know about different types of fibers, and about doll fibers.

It's no good jahazafat having an apoplectic fit about Pam Paugh. Jahazafat must come up with some real proof that the unsourced fibers at the JonBenet crime scene are doll fibers before anybody is going to take her seriously.

There were some brown cotton fibers found at that crime scene, as well as other fibers of different colors which didn't come from any Ramsey. John Ramsey was asked at the Atlanta Boulder police interview in 2000 if he ever owned any brown cotton gardening gloves. No brown cotton gardening gloves were ever found in the Ramsey Boulder house.

There is a similar sort of controversy in the false conviction of Dr Jeffrey MacDonald. There was a blonde saran synthetic hair-like fiber found at the MacDonald murders scene which any reasonable person would say came from the blond wig of one of the intruder murderers, Helena Stoeckley. Because the FBI wanted to prosecute an innocent man, Dr MacDonald, the FBI manufactured a story that the particular fiber came from MacDonald child dolls. The trouble is there has never been any real proof of that. The FBI have never been able to prove that MacDonald dolls had saran in the hair fibers, or that blonde Helena Stoeckley wigs didn't have saran.
jahazafat

Grandville, MI

#8 Sep 5, 2006
Transcripts of the Ramseys Police interviews are readily available and there was never a single mention about the dolls the Ramseys asked Pam Paugh to remove from the crime scene.

John Ramsey has evaded inquiry about this for far too long. UPS delivered a doll to his office a few days after the funeral. There are records that document this. There would have been questions about this in the interviews had he taken this macabre information to police and it would have been followed up immediately. Of course he didn't, and this package was even addressed to JonBenet herself. Dead children don't play with toys. The Ramseys likely trashed the first Molly because of a duct tape stain on her back and used the new mystery doll as a replacement. It's not rocket science.

It's time for a new investigation with a new prosecutor and time for John Ramsey to be appropriately questioned and asked to produce the dolls. Any line of inquiry with the dolls should include others like Burke who likely saw the dolls in an unclothed state as well as the maid who picked up after the kids and cleaned up the children's rooms. All official questioning of Burke including the Grand Jury preceeded any known links to the dolls as evidence. This kid knows way more than his saying and has changed his story numerous times. First JonBenet walked upstairs then she was carried. First he slept through the 911 call then he was awake.

It was not the police who allowed the removal of this evidence. The police merely watched and documented. Pam Paugh was allowed in to get Funeral clothes. This was under the direction of the DA's office who are higher up in the pecking order of law enforcement. The Ramseuys went to church with Pete Holfstrom and he let the Ramseys in the back door of the DA's office.

Colorado is pulling the wool of the eyes of everyone and their investigation is a hoax.

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jahazafat

Grandville, MI

#9 Sep 8, 2006
I'm waiting for Pam's next interview, either by the media or the Boulder investigation. She should be asked the following:

Who physically wrote the list?
Was it dictated?
Who specifically wanted certain items?
Who wanted the painting?
Was it hanging on the wall?
Did it have a cord attached for hanging?
Who wanted the American Girl dolls?
Were there items they wanted but didn't get?
Were there items they went back and forth about? Were there items they crossed off the list?
Was she told exactly where everything was?
Did she have to hunt for anything?
Were things not where she was told they would be? What transpired when she returned with the items? How did they divy up the booty?
Who wanted what?
Where did the items go?
What happened to the actual list?
Was anybody else in on making up this list?
Who else knew about the list?
Who was present when it was being written?
Who was preesent when it was given to her?
Did the Ramsey's attorneys know about the list?

more to come...
jahazafat

Lancaster, WI

#10 Sep 11, 2006
PAM PAUGH NEEDS TO BE QUESTIONED AS TO IF SHE TOOK OUT ANY PAGEABT TROPHIES
Artman

AOL

#11 Sep 11, 2006
jahazafat wrote:
PAM PAUGH NEEDS TO BE QUESTIONED AS TO IF SHE TOOK OUT ANY PAGEABT TROPHIES
why?
jahazafat

Grandville, MI

#12 Sep 12, 2006
Because Pam Paugh removed other items that were part of the crime that ended JonBenet's life.

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Dolls that were the source of the fibers found on the body and duct tape.

A painting is believed to be the source of the cord used to strangle.

If she took out any trophies they need to be examined and considered as the possible item that caused the initial skull fracture/head trauma. Golf clubs too.
the real pinker

Troy, ID

#13 Dec 13, 2006
HEY PAM YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE.

DO YOU REMEMBER REMOVING THE AMERICAN GIRL CATALOG WITH THE DOLLS? A CATALOG SO JOHN COULD ORDER A REPLACEMENT SENT TO HIS OFFICE.

You removed the dolls, that you have verified. The one that was sent was ordered the same day you removed JonBenet's dolls. The replacement doll was ordered by a previous customer, somebody who already had a catalog... had the order form.

JonBenet had a catalog, there are computer records that document this.

WAS REMOVING THE CATALOG ON YOUR LIST?

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Jonni b

Rydalmere, Australia

#14 Dec 13, 2006
Janice wrote:
What about Santa? JonBenet claimed to have told someone on Christmas day 1996, that she was going to see Santa that night! Maybe this was a mall santa, that JonBenet went to see. He could have told Jonbenet he would come to see her Christmas night.
i read that she told the girl that she was getting a special visit from santa after christmas and [atsy claimed she never heard jonbenet say that.. Or did you mean she said that on the 24th or the 25th dec 1996
Jonni b

Rydalmere, Australia

#15 Dec 13, 2006
cut that last bit ut bout 24th or 25th u sed she had said it on 25th
the real pinker

Lewiston, ID

#16 Dec 13, 2006
It was from a neighborhood mother and I believe the quote was 'a special visit from Santa after Christmas'.

There ws an entire second Christmas planned the next day in Charlevoix with John Ramsey's other children. This is a common event in the lives of blended families. Patsy had even hired people in Charlevoix to decorate for this special second Christmas.
Jonni b

Rydalmere, Australia

#17 Dec 14, 2006
oh yeh i remember patsy woke up early to get ready to go to Charlevoix when she discovered the ransom note
the pinker

Lewiston, ID

#18 Dec 14, 2006
If you're out there Pam...

DID YOU REMOVE ONE OF JONBENET'S AMERICAN GIRL CATALOGS?
thejuke

East Molesey, UK

#19 Dec 14, 2006
You know, I saw Pam Paugh (think it was her) on TV - an old interview I think. She had a nice face, kind. She didn't look like she was deceiving anyone. Just like I said about Laci's mom. Why don't you lay off the dolls the person from WI.
Strangely enough I was just reading those old Patricia letters etc. She was from WI? I think?
the pinker

Troy, ID

#20 Dec 14, 2006
Pam Paugh may have been Patsy's patsy. I've never related if she was aware of what she was asked to do. She just has answers to many questions about removing things from the crime scene.

I'll stick up for what I believe is right. I have the right to speak up for any and all injustices I see.

I believe the Boulder DA has conspired with the Ramseys to cover up the death of JonBenet. This action has victimzed countless people and misappropriated scarce financial resources that should have been spent on living children.

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