James Kolar book: Foreign Faction: ...

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#1105 Jul 10, 2013
There was never any chance of the Ramseys suing because that would have meant under oath depositions. How could they sue? No minor children to sue on their behalf and no arguments against the case facts.

One would think after all these years you would stop acting like a woman scorned – ST didn’t settle – his publishers did! Out of his hands from the day he signed a contract to write and publish the book.

As for your comment about “news being pimped out”– do you really call that coffee table book of Whitson’s a valid rebuttal entity to go up against Kolar’s book? Now you are just doing the green-eyed-dance again – all because you had no idea about the book from Kolar, and you couldn’t publish some WORLD EXCLUSIVE announcement about it. It isn’t that Kolar wasn’t given the opportunity for exposure – it is Kolar chose not to.
candy wrote:
A huge date of significance has passed, the one year anniversary of Kolar's publication of "Foreign Faction" on this case. According to Amazon, the publication date was in June, 2012, therefore, Kolar will NOT be sued by the Ramseys over this book. USUALLY that would be a hugely significant FACT. But in this case, that is not the case. Thanks to either the news being pimped out so long in advance that the Ramseys not only figured out what was coming, they had their own rebuttal book ready to go at the same time, OR the media being TOO AFRAID, after Steve Thomas's gutless SETTLEMENT and Lacy's clearing of the Ramseys to give Kolar's book any NATIONAL coverage at all. That was the key to thwarting the impact of Kolar's book, and making sure it never sold. Steve Thomas was on Good Morning America for three or four days in a row promoting his book, as well as on Larry King Live, debating the Ramseys Rivera Live, Peter Boyles, Fox News. Kolar was given no media exposure and that's all the Ramseys cared about. They were about to make sure the impact of the book was minimal, and they would not at this point want to call attention to a book most people have not heard about. Since Steve Thomas settled, there have not been any TV shows, shown on the mass media, about the RDI theory. That whole theory disappeared from the airwaves thanks to him. There have been all kinds of intruder shows, like Discovery ID's Aphrodite Jones shows, that have had huge viewership on television and on line. Kolar's book did not change this situation at all. It is a fine, brave book, but the Ramseys were able to make sure almost no one except on line even heard of the book, thus the impact of the book was minimal.

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#1106 Jul 10, 2013
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it,” and yet you choose to ignore everything except your own theory. You won't even say anything else is possible yet improbable.
BrotherMoon wrote:
Kolar is responsible for no one hearing about Kolar's book. It is poorly written, his judgement is suspect and he clearly was baffled by the case.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#1107 Jul 11, 2013
DrSeussMd wrote:
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it,” and yet you choose to ignore everything except your own theory. You won't even say anything else is possible yet improbable.
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The public snubbing of the book backs me up. The lack of repeat visits to the media backs me up. The desperate reach of the Kolar backers to dream up a conspiracy by a supossedly powerful Ramsey cabal that can retard sales backs me up.
Torrence

Bailey, TX

#1108 Jul 12, 2013
Before believing anything in this book, read about the author and his involvement in terrorizing a family in Telluride, Colorado
http://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Angels-Whatever-...
Also available for Kindle

Since: Jul 10

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#1109 Jul 12, 2013
Shooting the messenger? The information from Kolar has not been disputed.

Understanding the death of Jonbenet Ramsey is about the bizarre Ramsey family dynamics and dysfunction. This family was off the wall abnormal and living on the edge. Both Burke and Jonbenet were leaving crap - bowel movements - feces - turds - in clothes and bedding instead of using the toilet. They had mental health issues and were in therapy, receiving professional intervention beacuse it was so severe.

A fresh load of chit was found in Burke's pjs and a box smeared with feces was found in Jonbenet's bedroom along with turds in the undies in her bathroom. What wasn't found were timers or charts in the bathrooms for treating the unusual disorder.
That was Patsy's responsibilty in helping her children overcome the problem but instead she did nothing and pretended it wasn't there, just like she pretended an intruder clubbed Jonbenet and tied her up like a christmas present.

This family is so good for what went down. Why will Burkle not talk with the investigation? Why doesn't he volunteer to be hypnotized to see if he remembers any little details? He is hiding the truth.

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#1110 Jul 12, 2013
That is ridiculous and you know it. There was no public snubbing of the book. And as for the content, I doubt you have even read it all the way through as evidenced by your immediately wanting others to tell you what it said - so you could comment on it (Comment should be translated as "Attack it" because it didn't match what you think about the crime).
BrotherMoon wrote:
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The public snubbing of the book backs me up. The lack of repeat visits to the media backs me up. The desperate reach of the Kolar backers to dream up a conspiracy by a supossedly powerful Ramsey cabal that can retard sales backs me up.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#1111 Jul 12, 2013
I asked people to report anything new and useful. I waited to read it when I could get it from the library. I wasn't going to get shmucked like you and pay for it.

The DNA never had anything to do with the case. Lacy acted unprofessionally and probably illegally. Hunter's actions were suspicious at best.

I didn't need a book to know those things.

The only thing that needs to be explained is who did what between John and Patsy.

Not only did Kolar fail there but he went so far as to implicated Burke.

The book sucks. The only way it could get published is the way he did it. It didn't sell because it sucks. His interviews show why the book was so poorly written and handled: he is a bit addlepated.

The continuing silence about the book and him shows what little value his work has. Too bad to because any voice speaking against the New Age Progressive Boulder culture from within could be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, he undermined any positive affect there by coming across as just another Rocky Mountain airhead.
Steve Eller

United States

#1112 Jul 12, 2013
DrSeussMd wrote:
You have a good post up until you start criticizing his interviews. Maybe that isn't his strong suit! It certainly doesn't take away from the fact that the book was terrific and it helped a lot of people fill in the blanks so to speak.
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Hi Seuss,

Thank you for your feedback, it is always appreciated. Regarding Kolar's interviews I stand by my position. According to the last sales figures I saw he helped less than 2000 people fill in the blanks, because that is roughly how many people bought the book. During a joint interview with Steve Thomas on Forums for Justice, Steve Thomas was a lot more candid and forthcoming about the case and he is under the constraints of a legal agreement with the Ramseys. It wasn't just that Kolar came off as dull but that he was ridiculously skittish when answering questions. To those unfamiliar with the case it could easily be construed as someone with a weak grasp of the case. Obviously anyone having read the book knows that Kolar authored a terrific analysis of the case, but by refusinf to work on his presentation skills, he did a disservice to the case and himself.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#1113 Jul 12, 2013
The DNA had nothing to do with the death of JonBenet
Neither did Burke.
Nor did John.
Kolar added nothing to the understanding of the case, in fact he muddied the water.

That didn't cost you $50.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#1114 Jul 13, 2013
Steve Eller wrote:
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Hi Seuss,
Thank you for your feedback, it is always appreciated. Regarding Kolar's interviews I stand by my position. According to the last sales figures I saw he helped less than 2000 people fill in the blanks, because that is roughly how many people bought the book. During a joint interview with Steve Thomas on Forums for Justice, Steve Thomas was a lot more candid and forthcoming about the case and he is under the constraints of a legal agreement with the Ramseys. It wasn't just that Kolar came off as dull but that he was ridiculously skittish when answering questions. To those unfamiliar with the case it could easily be construed as someone with a weak grasp of the case. Obviously anyone having read the book knows that Kolar authored a terrific analysis of the case, but by refusinf to work on his presentation skills, he did a disservice to the case and himself.
The media didn't give him a chance to show his "presentation skills." They simply refused to cover the book. Steve Thomas sold MORE books than DOI, because he WAS covered so extensively. And with that coverage comes RESPONSIBILITY to the theory, which he couldn't be bothered with. Which is why the RDI, the PROMINENT theory in this case in law enforcement, is shut out in the media, because of the one two punch of Thomas caving and Lacy clearing the Ramseys.

Another book that was shut out was the Whitson book. That book CLEARLY was a quid pro quo book for the Ramseys - telling the media, I believe, if you're going to cover that book, we are going to demand you cover this as well. Funny how Whitson had NO press either for his book, AND DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE AT ALL.

Steve Thomas was as happy as can be in that interview, because he had already paid out (letting the publisher do that on his behalf), and he gets what he always wanted, the royalties and notoriety from famous crime groupies overseas. How pathetic, and how badly he sold out Justice for JonBenet. He contributed the most to the Carnes decision which led directly to Lacy clearing them a few years later, but he doesn't give a damn. Kolar was a heck of a lot SMARTER and more circumspect RIGHTLY. Being a famous author was never the kick to him, IN THIS CASE, that it was to ST. He tried FOR YEARS behind the scenes for Justice, and ONLY AS A LAST RESORT, wrote the book.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#1115 Jul 13, 2013
candy wrote:
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The media didn't give him a chance to show his "presentation skills." They simply refused to cover the book. Steve Thomas sold MORE books than DOI, because he WAS covered so extensively. And with that coverage comes RESPONSIBILITY to the theory, which he couldn't be bothered with. Which is why the RDI, the PROMINENT theory in this case in law enforcement, is shut out in the media, because of the one two punch of Thomas caving and Lacy clearing the Ramseys.
Another book that was shut out was the Whitson book. That book CLEARLY was a quid pro quo book for the Ramseys - telling the media, I believe, if you're going to cover that book, we are going to demand you cover this as well. Funny how Whitson had NO press either for his book, AND DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE AT ALL.
Steve Thomas was as happy as can be in that interview, because he had already paid out (letting the publisher do that on his behalf), and he gets what he always wanted, the royalties and notoriety from famous crime groupies overseas. How pathetic, and how badly he sold out Justice for JonBenet. He contributed the most to the Carnes decision which led directly to Lacy clearing them a few years later, but he doesn't give a damn. Kolar was a heck of a lot SMARTER and more circumspect RIGHTLY. Being a famous author was never the kick to him, IN THIS CASE, that it was to ST. He tried FOR YEARS behind the scenes for Justice, and ONLY AS A LAST RESORT, wrote the book.
I do believe that is more embarrassing than what Kolar wrote!:)
candy

East Lansing, MI

#1117 Dec 21, 2013
Kolar, Foreign Faction, hardback, p. 219: "The leads that streamed into my office on JonBeent were nothing less than goofy and bizarre. A woman sent in a child's craft kit for a small loom that might make kitchen hot pads. No explanation provided."

I'm surprised he needed an explanation for this, or thought it was bizarre. A loom was found on the floor of JonBenet's bathroom:

http://crimeshots.com/000loom.jpeg

Along with that, were what male police officers thought were hair ties strewn on the floor. Ruthie the poster theorized the "hair ties" were actually loom bands, used to make pot holders, jewelry and other kids crafts, and the marks on JonBenet could have come from the loom itself. Here's a good look at those type of bands, and a loom, in the following current ad: http://tinyurl.com/k7ppkc7

Since: Jul 10

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#1118 Dec 22, 2013
So she possibly fell ontop of the loom, IMO far more likely than Burke getting train track and poking her, making her bedroom the 'scene' of the crime.

Those loom kits have been an eye hand coordination skill building kit for generations of young girls - ss common as Cubscouts and their pine derby racers.

Since: Jul 10

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#1119 Dec 22, 2013
So he didn't even follow up tips, instead chose an easier path of automatically disregarding input from the public... Sorry to say but he is also part of the problem.
Heloise

North Shields, UK

#1120 Dec 22, 2013
In fairness, he talks about several leads from the public he did follow. In the instance Candy cites, he was talking about people sending what they considered to be tips without any supporting info saying why they were tips and without identifying themselves, so following up was pretty hard, if not impossible. He also talks about changing the way they accepted tips because chasing wild leads from all over the US had essentially been all Tom Bennett had done for years and it had cost a fortune and resulted in nothing at all. There was also real pressure within Boulder County to cut costs on the case. I don't really think you can blame any of this on Kolar.

The bigger issue is that he was stymied in his attempts to follow leads suggested by existing evidence.

Since: Mar 08

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#1122 Aug 11, 2014
Not that I want to open up this can of worms again, but because Kolar is going around giving seminars on investigative practice, I'll mention it....

In his book, Kolar says something about the back marks being circular and somewhat rectangular. Something like that. But when he was trying to establish that train tracks made the back marks, he didn't check to see how easy it would be to make such circular/rectangular marks with them. He only checked the spacing on skin.
Just Wondering

Mount Hope, WV

#1123 Aug 11, 2014
Btw, did they ever exhume Jonbenet's body to test the tissue around the marks to determine if it had suffered trauma from a stun gun? I recall reading that that was indeed an option.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#1124 Aug 11, 2014
Just Wondering wrote:
Btw, did they ever exhume Jonbenet's body to test the tissue around the marks to determine if it had suffered trauma from a stun gun? I recall reading that that was indeed an option.
No because JR couldn't bear disturbing his little sparkplug.
The family didn't do anything that ran the risk of disproving all the lies they were telling. They settled/dropped lawsuits so they would not have to be deposed, they hired paid results for their own personal polygraphs, and did not exhume her body to prove/disprove the stun gun marks. Guess you can't blame them for that though because lies and innuendo like saying the GJ didn't indict were all they had to go on. I would have loved to see the look on JR's face when he found out the indictment information was going public, I'll bet it was a Kodak moment.
Just Wondering

Mount Hope, WV

#1125 Aug 11, 2014
And when I reread last night that Hunter's office had supplied the Ramseys' defense team with a record of the statements they had made to the BPD, my jaw dropped because of the incredulity of the situation.

Why should the Ramseys even NEED to see their prior statements to the police if they had nothing to hide? That was quite telling in and of itself.

So whether the marks were ever traced to the train track or not, just the Ramseys' behavior made them appear guilty.

Since: Mar 08

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#1126 Aug 12, 2014
candy wrote:
A huge date of significance has passed, the one year anniversary of Kolar's publication of "Foreign Faction" on this case. According to Amazon, the publication date was in June, 2012, therefore, Kolar will NOT be sued by the Ramseys over this book. USUALLY that would be a hugely significant FACT. But in this case, that is not the case. Thanks to either the news being pimped out so long in advance that the Ramseys not only figured out what was coming, they had their own rebuttal book ready to go at the same time, OR the media being TOO AFRAID, after Steve Thomas's gutless SETTLEMENT and Lacy's clearing of the Ramseys to give Kolar's book any NATIONAL coverage at all. That was the key to thwarting the impact of Kolar's book, and making sure it never sold. Steve Thomas was on Good Morning America for three or four days in a row promoting his book, as well as on Larry King Live, debating the Ramseys Rivera Live, Peter Boyles, Fox News. Kolar was given no media exposure and that's all the Ramseys cared about. They were about to make sure the impact of the book was minimal, and they would not at this point want to call attention to a book most people have not heard about. Since Steve Thomas settled, there have not been any TV shows, shown on the mass media, about the RDI theory. That whole theory disappeared from the airwaves thanks to him. There have been all kinds of intruder shows, like Discovery ID's Aphrodite Jones shows, that have had huge viewership on television and on line. Kolar's book did not change this situation at all. It is a fine, brave book, but the Ramseys were able to make sure almost no one except on line even heard of the book, thus the impact of the book was minimal.
I think we need to factor in here that when reporters went to DA Garnett and Chief Becker both dismissed Kolar's Burke Did It theory, which occupies a lot of real estate in the book (or psychological real estate, at any rate).

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